Opinion Richmond Board 2024 US Election thread - Trump vs Harris

[guruisatiger]

As opposed to....???

A knee pad wearing
Ball washer

 

[darcytiger]

Trump for more lulzworthy news clips for me please.
Deomocrat robots are boring.

 

[guruisatiger]

The whole thing just shows how ****ed the U.S. system is and it’s the same issue that is becoming increasingly prevalent in Australian politics

The media and the party’s themselves paint the leader and the figurehead AS the party not the person who essentially just the spokesperson FOR the party

Actual policy’s that the party’s are planning to implement and the plans going forward are comes glossed over and are the most impotent aspect to help you decide who you vote for

But instead it’s just stupid trivial identity politics that are people use to base who they want to support on

I have a small amount of interest on the US election just out of curiosity but none of the media that passes my eyes has actually mentioned anything about the policy’s that either party plan on implementing

Eg I’ve seen Trump mention immigration as an issue but not once have I seen what he plans to do the combat the issue

Maybe you should look a little bit closer

 

[sanaya]

Piss off woke dog. I would rather someone protect democracy than have a neocon Democratic Party wash taxpayer money through Ukraine only to come back in weapon orders.

to be fair nothing aristotle said was false

the only thing is that neither party actually gives a **** about "protecting democracy" because otherwise they'd get rid of the electoral college as that system gives individuals more voting power depending on the state they're from

imagine if someones vote from western australia counted more than someones vote from victoria



another reason why neither give a **** about democracy is that gerrymandering exists,




you can't tell me that it isn't a farce lmao, totally natural district that totally wasn't drafted up to have a certain politicians party be the majority of that voting district

 

[guruisatiger]

Trump for more lulzworthy news clips for me please.
Deomocrat robots are boring.

I wanna see all the loony lefties say how there all going to leave America again if Trump wins

 

[sanaya]

Wow! We’ve degenerated to Hitler, Jews, and genocide posts, and a mod is giving the thumbs up.
Congrats.

what was wrong about anything i said? nothing i said was anti-semitic, just a retelling of history and what trump/kamala have said


if you're upset with me calling what's happening in palestine a genocide, then are you fine with me calling it mass extermination + ethnic cleansing + forced mass deportation/displacement? they all carry the around same jail sentence as genocide in international court, just not the stigma of the word genocide

 

[The_Kraken]

what was wrong about anything i said? nothing i said was anti-semitic, just a retelling of history and what trump/kamala have said


if you're upset with me calling what's happening in palestine a genocide, then are you fine with me calling it mass extermination + ethnic cleansing + forced mass deportation/displacement? they all carry the around same jail sentence as genocide in international court, just not the stigma of the word genocide

Well done, Muddiemoose

You encouraged these remedial high school takes on history and law. Brilliant.

 

[SplintWhisky]

It with be interesting to see if America will elect a racist , sexually assaulting , climate denying, despot loving, pro-billionaire scumbag like trump.

Forgot insurrectionist.

 

[Third Ring]

to be fair nothing aristotle said was false

the only thing is that neither party actually gives a **** about "protecting democracy" because otherwise they'd get rid of the electoral college as that system gives individuals more voting power depending on the state they're from

imagine if someones vote from western australia counted more than someones vote from victoria



another reason why neither give a **** about democracy is that gerrymandering exists,

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you can't tell me that it isn't a farce lmao, totally natural district that totally wasn't drafted up to have a certain politicians party be the majority of that voting district

Exactly, could you imagine the uproar if we had something like that here in Australia…

hmm, like our senate for example where Tasmania have the same number of senators as the other states (12) even though nsw is 15 x the population and the ACT has 82% of TAS population but 1/6 the number of senators.

 

[sanaya]

Well done, Muddiemoose

You encouraged these remedial high school takes on history and law. Brilliant.

muddiemoose is irrelevant to this, he didn't encourage me to do anything


i also don't see what you pointed out in my original statement that was wrong ? i'm open to criticism and open to clarifying any of my statements that you have questions about !

 

[SplintWhisky]

in saying what i said i hope kamala loses because she was complicit in aiding and defending the genocide of the palestinians and has shown no sign of change, so while there's a good likelihood that trump is worse on that issue, hundreds of thousands have been killed, 85% of palestinians have been internally displaced, almost every home/school/hospital has been destroyed by israel, so there's not exactly much more trump is feasibly able to allow israel to do

but even in the case he's worse, how can you vote for someone supplying almost 70% of the military aid used to take out the mass extermination and ethnic cleansing?

if kamala killed your entire family, would you still vote for her because trump might've done worse? what's worse than your whole family being killed? what's worse than genocide?

voting for kamala just means genocide is permissible which is insane, there needs to be some consequence



maybe once trump wins, liberals will finally realise genocide is bad ! (i don't have faith they will realise that in regards to palestine unfortunately)

You do realise Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem?

Israel is starting to swing at everyone but their initial retaliation to the Oct 7 attacks was pretty justified.

I am not too sure how it can be levied at Harris that she is responsible.

In terms of the hospitals/schools etc. being destroyed, maybe there shouldn't be weapons and outposts hidden within them. We learned this type of stuff in WW2 and hospital ships.

There is probably one way out for that region but no one has the balls to take it. Israel would need to give back the West Bank areas and open up Gaza whilst the US says to their neighbours "Israel is making these concessions for peace, anyone attacks them, we will turn up in full force." A two state solution where Israel is protected from the neighbours by the US and where Palestine is equally protected by Israel attacks by the US. Take a real harsh stance on it as well.

 

[Equus]

Just maybe. Maybe. Foreign interference is coming from Israelis. All US politicians are lobbied and in the pockets of the Jewish folks.

 

[The_Kraken]

The whole thing just shows how ****ed the U.S. system is and it’s the same issue that is becoming increasingly prevalent in Australian politics

The media and the party’s themselves paint the leader and the figurehead AS the party not the person who essentially just the spokesperson FOR the party

Actual policy’s that the party’s are planning to implement and the plans going forward are comes glossed over and are the most impotent aspect to help you decide who you vote for

But instead it’s just stupid trivial identity politics that are people use to base who they want to support on

I have a small amount of interest on the US election just out of curiosity but none of the media that passes my eyes has actually mentioned anything about the policy’s that either party plan on implementing

Eg I’ve seen Trump mention immigration as an issue but not once have I seen what he plans to do the combat the issue

Your ignorance of US executive power is breathtaking.

I’ve spent a few minutes putting together some examples of presidential power. It’s an area I’ve devoted years to formal study.

The U.S. President's role as head of the executive branch affords substantial influence over both domestic and foreign policy. Through legislative initiatives, executive orders, and the capacity to mobilise public opinion, presidents have historically shaped the direction of policy in ways that align with their political agendas and respond to national challenges. Some examples such as the ACA, the New Deal, the Marshall Plan, and the War on Terror illustrate the profound impact presidential leadership can have on the nation's policy landscape.

The presidency is the most powerful position on the planet, and the holder of the position wields powers that have profound impacts reaching across the globe.

 

[Equus]

Agree. Biden is a warmonger.

 

[Wrenny]

Do we have their combine results?

 

[sante]

Who cares? We live in Australia

 

[sanaya]

You do realise Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem?

i know, it's crazy that biden reversed that decision right? oh damn, he didn't?

I am not too sure how it can be levied at Harris that she is responsible.

harris could say she disagrees with the way biden has handled gaza and call for an arms embargo as part of her campaign instead of parroting the same crap biden has for the past 12 months of no change

she's campaigning on the "successes" of the biden administration, so she's taking accountability for job growth and other stuff during her 4 years as vice president, why is she not responsible for the bad things?

In terms of the hospitals/schools etc. being destroyed, maybe there shouldn't be weapons and outposts hidden within them. We learned this type of stuff in WW2 and hospital ships.

within 3 months israel damaged or destroyed over 70% of houses in gaza, do you truly believe 70% of houses were hamas weapons caches & outposts? https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...ed-or-destroyed-wall-street-journal-analysis/

i would love to see every bit of evidence they have for for every single instance of a house/school/hospital being a hamas outpost, but pardon me if i don't take them at their word as they've been proven to lie, just remember their cold blooded killing of american citizen & journalist shireen abu akleh and many other instances

There is probably one way out for that region but no one has the balls to take it. Israel would need to give back the West Bank areas and open up Gaza whilst the US says to their neighbours "Israel is making these concessions for peace, anyone attacks them, we will turn up in full force." A two state solution where Israel is protected from the neighbours by the US and where Palestine is equally protected by Israel attacks by the US. Take a real harsh stance on it as well.

well west bank is internationally recognised as palestinian land, however israel (even prior to oct 7th!) continues to settle the land, so i agree that israel needs to respect international law, and i understand your second part, it's just that it's already the case that america is protecting the hell out of israel but with no recognition of the sovereignty of palestine, so why would america or israel want to change that?

 

[sanaya]

Who cares? We live in Australia

america is the global hegemon so the ramifications of the USA presidential election is far reaching as it can have big effects on other countries



the only thing is, both parties currently have almost identical foreign policy so it's essentially just a domestic dispute which can still have impact globally as their leading export is unironically "culture" or whatever you want to call it, especially in australia as we love to tail american culture, which domestic laws can influence

 

[Lord of the Wings]

heck this shite off. It don't belong on an AFL footy board.

 

[Cactus_]

I’ve got a feeling that the polls are wrong and Harris gets up pretty comfortably

Trump has pissed off the women, the Puerto Ricans, and the moderate Republicans, the military, and people who don’t like insurrections

Having said that I’ve been wrong before

And there are probably a lot of Americans who won’t vote for a woman of colour (whether they say so when they’re polled or not)

 

[Cactus_]

heck this shite off. It don't belong on an AFL footy board.

Surely you can just not read?

 

[guruisatiger]

Do we have their combine results?

Yeah Trump had a bad 20 meter sprint and poor agility
Kamala was off the charts in the knee pad testing and she definitely came first and was the HEAD of all the candidates

 

[Ctl]

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[Cactus_]

Yeah Trump had a bad 20 meter sprint and poor agility
Kamala was off the charts in the knee pad testing and she definitely came first and was the HEAD of all the candidates

Low class post

 

[Sir_Loin]

to be fair nothing aristotle said was false

the only thing is that neither party actually gives a **** about "protecting democracy" because otherwise they'd get rid of the electoral college as that system gives individuals more voting power depending on the state they're from

imagine if someones vote from western australia counted more than someones vote from victoria



another reason why neither give a **** about democracy is that gerrymandering exists,

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you can't tell me that it isn't a farce lmao, totally natural district that totally wasn't drafted up to have a certain politicians party be the majority of that voting district

Isn’t that Dan Crenshaw’s district? For a decorated special forces officer and MBA holder he sure is dumb as dogshit. Bill Maher blitzed him on his program the guy couldn’t even speak half way through it