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A stadium lifetime should be 50 years? Or more?

Good thing the population of SEQ isn't going to grow in that time. And your totally legit estimate of only needing another couple of thousand of tickets a couple of times is reassuring cause it's not like we have seen near exponential growth recently.

Thanks for clearing that up.
I never gave an estimate, I simply stated that it is impossible to know how many more people over and above those 32k - 35k crowds would buy tickets. Which it is.

Also, the MCG could sell 120k - 150k ticket for Anzac Day, GF day and and Big Vic v Big Vic finals, but that does mean expanding beyond the mooted 105k is a good idea.

And stadium life is around 40 years.
 
I agree somewhat about what stadium size is good for AFL in a NRL state.
I would say at a guess 50k for last year's needs.
As others have said a new stadium is for the future and you don't want to do addons in 10 years' time.
We need to match Perth in my opinion so a 58-60k stadium in legacy mode.
One thing for certain, it needs to hold more people than Suncorp.
Lang Park - 52 500
Adelaide Oval - 53 500
Perth Stadium - 61 266

If the government wants to win a regular test match back again, it needs to at least have a bigger stadium than Adelaide. Maybe they should split the middle and aim for 57-58k.
 
I never gave an estimate, I simply stated that it is impossible to know how many more people over and above those 32k - 35k crowds would buy tickets. Which it is.

Also, the MCG could sell 120k - 150k ticket for Anzac Day, GF day and and Big Vic v Big Vic finals, but that does mean expanding beyond the mooted 105k is a good idea.

And stadium life is around 40 years.
There were a number on non-finals sellouts too. Does the MCG sell out regular season games frequently?
 

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I never gave an estimate, I simply stated that it is impossible to know how many more people over and above those 32k - 35k crowds would buy tickets. Which it is.

Also, the MCG could sell 120k - 150k ticket for Anzac Day, GF day and and Big Vic v Big Vic finals, but that does mean expanding beyond the mooted 105k is a good idea.

And stadium life is around 40 years.

There were a number on non-finals sellouts too. Does the MCG sell out regular season games frequently?

The much more important question is, "does it matter?"
 

What's next?​

The newly elected Queensland government has vowed to lengthen the rail line and an update on the rapid bus project is due mid-2025.

Train must cross 'giant swamp'​

The new LNP government has vowed to spend billions more to extend the rail link between Brisbane and Caloundra all the way to Maroochydore by 2032, a goal which is yet to receive federal support.

But Professor Burke said the new heavy rail line would need to cross "giant swamps" and required major tunnelling work.

"It's going to be really difficult for us to make 2032, and it's going to take billions, billions, and billions of dollars," he said.

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Sarcasm aside, the idea of either repurposing/refurbishing/modernising the existing Gabba stadium or replacing it with a smaller one for the Brisbane Arena makes THE most sense of any proposal and I can't understand why it wasn't considered from day 1.

The transport infrastructure is utilised, the foot print could be reduced, the school is saved, the specific sporting requirements are taken away...

And it frees up the "capital" both politically and financially to build a new stadium that's fit for purpose.

It's bloody obvious really.
 
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If they were building it for the Olympics it may mean that we can stay in the Gabba for a slightly longer period as it may not take quite as long to build as a new stadium on the site.
From the article / submission it would still involve a stadium at Vic Park. So I guess that would need to be built first unless they do the arena at the Gabba and Vic park at the same time (in which case we are stuffed).

I don't think they realise that they will still need somewhere to play cricket in Brisbane during the games, given Vic Park would be for athletics.
 
From the article / submission it would still involve a stadium at Vic Park. So I guess that would need to be built first unless they do the arena at the Gabba and Vic park at the same time (in which case we are stuffed).

I don't think they realise that they will still need somewhere to play cricket in Brisbane during the games, given Vic Park would be for athletics.
That may be why they also suggest it possibly not being built until after the Olympics and the swimming moving to the Gold Coast.
 
From Brisbane times

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/na...with-a-hint-of-pineapple-20241121-p5ksh9.html

Or the web archive version https://archive.md/TBjvS

I "like" their suggestion for the Brisbane arena (where the gabba is currently)
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I really like this part from the article as i have been an advocate for this to happen since the sad saga began.

With terms of reference yet to reveal the scope of the review, there is even talk of Brisbane Arena, earmarked to host the swimming, being put off until after 2032, and the Gold Coast instead providing the pool for the Games.

Reading the article if all were put in place where is the money coming from.
The government can't afford to have 2 new venues now.
What is proposed would be super expensive. Nothing really wrong with the ideas though.
I prefer Brisbane Arena cancelled but over Wooloongabba station if feasible before the Gabba site.

He is kidding if he thinks a new stadium will be built first, so the Lions & cricket can move in before starting Brisbane Arena on The Gabba site. "[building it after the main stadium] makes so much sense "
It could make sense if it started June 2025 but that is extremely unlikely. It would be lucky if a validation report came back by that date.

His visual of Perry Park image below alone would be very expensive. I agree it is a better location than Ballymore.
Maybe a very reduced version but the same Olympic capacity of 10k as Ballymore
Perry Park is presently 5k. He has it increasing to 20k with a complete roof.


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Sarcasm aside, the idea of either repurposing/refurbishing/modernising the existing Gabba stadium or replacing it with a smaller one for the Brisbane Arena makes THE most sense of any proposal and I can't understand why it wasn't considered from day 1.

The transport infrastructure is utilised, the foot print could be reduced, the school is saved, the specific sporting requirements are taken away...

And it frees up the "capital" both politically and financially to build a new stadium that's fit for purpose.

It's bloody obvious really.
Yes. Far too obvious and sensible for any government to ever take seriously, sadly.
 
I really like this part from the article as i have been an advocate for this to happen since the sad saga began.

With terms of reference yet to reveal the scope of the review, there is even talk of Brisbane Arena, earmarked to host the swimming, being put off until after 2032, and the Gold Coast instead providing the pool for the Games.

Reading the article if all were put in place where is the money coming from.
The government can't afford to have 2 new venues now.
What is proposed would be super expensive. Nothing really wrong with the ideas though.
I prefer Brisbane Arena cancelled but over Wooloongabba station if feasible before the Gabba site.

He is kidding if he thinks a new stadium will be built first, so the Lions & cricket can move in before starting Brisbane Arena on The Gabba site. "[building it after the main stadium] makes so much sense "
It could make sense if it started June 2025 but that is extremely unlikely. It would be lucky if a validation report came back by that date.

His visual of Perry Park image below alone would be very expensive. I agree it is a better location than Ballymore.
Maybe a very reduced version but the same Olympic capacity of 10k as Ballymore
Perry Park is presently 5k. He has it increasing to 20k with a complete roof.


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Instead of planes and boats going missing in that triangle it’ll be tax payer money
 
If they were building it for the Olympics it may mean that we can stay in the Gabba for a slightly longer period as it may not take quite as long to build as a new stadium on the site.
You are forgetting the 2-year pulldown timeframe for the Gabba before anything can even start on the site
 

What's next?​

The newly elected Queensland government has vowed to lengthen the rail line and an update on the rapid bus project is due mid-2025.

Train must cross 'giant swamp'​

The new LNP government has vowed to spend billions more to extend the rail link between Brisbane and Caloundra all the way to Maroochydore by 2032, a goal which is yet to receive federal support.

But Professor Burke said the new heavy rail line would need to cross "giant swamps" and required major tunnelling work.

"It's going to be really difficult for us to make 2032, and it's going to take billions, billions, and billions of dollars," he said.

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Interesting optics. If the gov say rail is the legacy from the olympics and it doesn't get built by 32 gotta think there will be blow back.
 
Interesting optics. If the gov say rail is the legacy from the olympics and it doesn't get built by 32 gotta think there will be blow back.
Crisafulli must have completely ignored this report (in opposition) if he thinks he will be able to do rail to Maroochydore by 2032.
The possible build date to Caloundra: Start 2025 end 2031 and that is just two stations to Caloundra.
North of Caloundra has bigger risks and more stations.
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. This translates to only a 0.1% reduction in private vehicle trips and no material change in average road network speeds. This is reflected in the proponent’s economic appraisal, which estimates that the costs of the proposal are much greater than its monetised benefits

The business case states that environmental approvals will take up to three years

Stage 1: delivery from Beerwah to Caloundra, with the rest of the line indicatively by 2040

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