News Gabba Upgrade & Olympics News

[Chucky_23]

Rapid buses? Does the old dude driving the bus just floor it?

 

[Perrip]

Legislation for the 100 Day review will be introduced to Parliament tomorrow

 

[Iron Turtle]

From Brisbane times

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/na...with-a-hint-of-pineapple-20241121-p5ksh9.html

Or the web archive version https://archive.md/TBjvS

I "like" their suggestion for the Brisbane arena (where the gabba is currently)

 

[notliondown]

Sarcasm aside, the idea of either repurposing/refurbishing/modernising the existing Gabba stadium or replacing it with a smaller one for the Brisbane Arena makes THE most sense of any proposal and I can't understand why it wasn't considered from day 1.

The transport infrastructure is utilised, the foot print could be reduced, the school is saved, the specific sporting requirements are taken away...

And it frees up the "capital" both politically and financially to build a new stadium that's fit for purpose.

It's bloody obvious really.

 

[Dalions]

From Brisbane times

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/na...with-a-hint-of-pineapple-20241121-p5ksh9.html

Or the web archive version https://archive.md/TBjvS

I "like" their suggestion for the Brisbane arena (where the gabba is currently)
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Will bring a new meaning to the term.
The Pineapple Grapple.

 

[dlanod]

Will bring a new meaning to the term.
The Pineapple Grapple.

Especially when it hosts MMA...

 

[Dalions]

If they were building it for the Olympics it may mean that we can stay in the Gabba for a slightly longer period as it may not take quite as long to build as a new stadium on the site.

 

[Iron Turtle]

If they were building it for the Olympics it may mean that we can stay in the Gabba for a slightly longer period as it may not take quite as long to build as a new stadium on the site.

From the article / submission it would still involve a stadium at Vic Park. So I guess that would need to be built first unless they do the arena at the Gabba and Vic park at the same time (in which case we are stuffed).

I don't think they realise that they will still need somewhere to play cricket in Brisbane during the games, given Vic Park would be for athletics.

 

[Dalions]

From the article / submission it would still involve a stadium at Vic Park. So I guess that would need to be built first unless they do the arena at the Gabba and Vic park at the same time (in which case we are stuffed).

I don't think they realise that they will still need somewhere to play cricket in Brisbane during the games, given Vic Park would be for athletics.

That may be why they also suggest it possibly not being built until after the Olympics and the swimming moving to the Gold Coast.

 

[Iron Turtle]

That may be why they also suggest it possibly not being built until after the Olympics and the swimming moving to the Gold Coast.

Makes sense, keeps the costs down.

However I would still love to see a giant Pineapple arena.

We could then have the Olympic torch look like one of these

 

[Section 5]

From Brisbane times

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/na...with-a-hint-of-pineapple-20241121-p5ksh9.html

Or the web archive version https://archive.md/TBjvS

I "like" their suggestion for the Brisbane arena (where the gabba is currently)
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I really like this part from the article as i have been an advocate for this to happen since the sad saga began.

With terms of reference yet to reveal the scope of the review, there is even talk of Brisbane Arena, earmarked to host the swimming, being put off until after 2032, and the Gold Coast instead providing the pool for the Games.

Reading the article if all were put in place where is the money coming from.
The government can't afford to have 2 new venues now.
What is proposed would be super expensive. Nothing really wrong with the ideas though.
I prefer Brisbane Arena cancelled but over Wooloongabba station if feasible before the Gabba site.

He is kidding if he thinks a new stadium will be built first, so the Lions & cricket can move in before starting Brisbane Arena on The Gabba site. "[building it after the main stadium] makes so much sense "
It could make sense if it started June 2025 but that is extremely unlikely. It would be lucky if a validation report came back by that date.

His visual of Perry Park image below alone would be very expensive. I agree it is a better location than Ballymore.
Maybe a very reduced version but the same Olympic capacity of 10k as Ballymore
Perry Park is presently 5k. He has it increasing to 20k with a complete roof.





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[Grasshopper17]

Sarcasm aside, the idea of either repurposing/refurbishing/modernising the existing Gabba stadium or replacing it with a smaller one for the Brisbane Arena makes THE most sense of any proposal and I can't understand why it wasn't considered from day 1.

The transport infrastructure is utilised, the foot print could be reduced, the school is saved, the specific sporting requirements are taken away...

And it frees up the "capital" both politically and financially to build a new stadium that's fit for purpose.

It's bloody obvious really.

Yes. Far too obvious and sensible for any government to ever take seriously, sadly.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

From Brisbane times

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/na...with-a-hint-of-pineapple-20241121-p5ksh9.html

Or the web archive version https://archive.md/TBjvS

I "like" their suggestion for the Brisbane arena (where the gabba is currently)
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Wow, a sensible plan and a unique design for an arena. I like it!

 

[Elixuh]

I really like this part from the article as i have been an advocate for this to happen since the sad saga began.

With terms of reference yet to reveal the scope of the review, there is even talk of Brisbane Arena, earmarked to host the swimming, being put off until after 2032, and the Gold Coast instead providing the pool for the Games.

Reading the article if all were put in place where is the money coming from.
The government can't afford to have 2 new venues now.
What is proposed would be super expensive. Nothing really wrong with the ideas though.
I prefer Brisbane Arena cancelled but over Wooloongabba station if feasible before the Gabba site.

He is kidding if he thinks a new stadium will be built first, so the Lions & cricket can move in before starting Brisbane Arena on The Gabba site. "[building it after the main stadium] makes so much sense "
It could make sense if it started June 2025 but that is extremely unlikely. It would be lucky if a validation report came back by that date.

His visual of Perry Park image below alone would be very expensive. I agree it is a better location than Ballymore.
Maybe a very reduced version but the same Olympic capacity of 10k as Ballymore
Perry Park is presently 5k. He has it increasing to 20k with a complete roof.


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Instead of planes and boats going missing in that triangle it’ll be tax payer money

 

[Section 5]

If they were building it for the Olympics it may mean that we can stay in the Gabba for a slightly longer period as it may not take quite as long to build as a new stadium on the site.

You are forgetting the 2-year pulldown timeframe for the Gabba before anything can even start on the site

 

[Section 5]

These guys just down the road are very much against the design.
I think they might be just jealous though.

 

[Gadzorks]

Olympics may not be enough to bring rail and rapid buses all the way to Sunshine Coast

There are fears one of Queensland's biggest cities may end up without a train or fast bus network that can carry athletes and spectators to Olympic and Paralympic venues.

www.abc.net.au

What's next?​

The newly elected Queensland government has vowed to lengthen the rail line and an update on the rapid bus project is due mid-2025.

Train must cross 'giant swamp'​

The new LNP government has vowed to spend billions more to extend the rail link between Brisbane and Caloundra all the way to Maroochydore by 2032, a goal which is yet to receive federal support.

But Professor Burke said the new heavy rail line would need to cross "giant swamps" and required major tunnelling work.

"It's going to be really difficult for us to make 2032, and it's going to take billions, billions, and billions of dollars," he said.

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Interesting optics. If the gov say rail is the legacy from the olympics and it doesn't get built by 32 gotta think there will be blow back.

 

[Section 5]

Interesting optics. If the gov say rail is the legacy from the olympics and it doesn't get built by 32 gotta think there will be blow back.

Crisafulli must have completely ignored this report (in opposition) if he thinks he will be able to do rail to Maroochydore by 2032.
The possible build date to Caloundra: Start 2025 end 2031 and that is just two stations to Caloundra.
North of Caloundra has bigger risks and more stations.
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. This translates to only a 0.1% reduction in private vehicle trips and no material change in average road network speeds. This is reflected in the proponent’s economic appraisal, which estimates that the costs of the proposal are much greater than its monetised benefits

The business case states that environmental approvals will take up to three years

Stage 1: delivery from Beerwah to Caloundra, with the rest of the line indicatively by 2040

https://www.infrastructureaustralia.gov.au/sites/default/files/2024-05/Evaluation%20Summary%20-%20Direct%20Sunshine%20Coast%20Rail%20Line%20-%20PUBLICATION_0.pdf

 

[Perrip]

Legislation for the 100 Day review will be introduced to Parliament tomorrow

And has now passed Parliament just then.

@Pineapple Rebellion

Brisbane Olympic and Paralympic Games Arrangements and Other Legislation Amendment Bill carries on the voices for all remaining stages.

 

[PattyKwasagun]

Interesting new possibility raised in tomorrow's Courier Mail:

LNP sources revealed a new stadium would be considered above the Cross River Rail station being built opposite the Gabba.

The current stadium could be retained to avoid displacing AFL and cricket, and be used as a warm-up track for the Games in 2032 before being demolished for an education and housing precinct.

I think that site is slightly larger than the current Gabba site, which would likely make it easier to work with.

It's also already set up for construction as the Cross River Rail site, and wouldn't require a school to be torn down.

If it's feasible, building on top of the new station might actually be a perfect solution.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Interesting new possibility raised in tomorrow's Courier Mail:

I think that site is slightly larger than the current Gabba site, which would likely make it easier to work with.

It's also already set up for construction as the Cross River Rail site, and wouldn't require a school to be torn down.

If it's feasible, building on top of the new station might actually be a perfect solution.

This has been discussed many times by many people. The response I've usually heard is that it's not possible because of security risks, plus it doesn't allow parking underneath the stadium. If the Courier Mail is running with this, then maybe the security concerns were overstated.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Interesting new possibility raised in tomorrow's Courier Mail:

I think that site is slightly larger than the current Gabba site, which would likely make it easier to work with.

It's also already set up for construction as the Cross River Rail site, and wouldn't require a school to be torn down.

If it's feasible, building on top of the new station might actually be a perfect solution.

This has been discussed many times by many people. The response I've usually heard is that it's not possible because of security risks, plus it doesn't allow parking underneath the stadium. If the Courier Mail is running with this, then maybe the security concerns were overstated.

Fascinating concept... In Sydney they spent a few years (on and off) talking about building a stadium directly above Central train station.

In theory it sounded like a brilliant idea; perfect ("central") location, easy access, it was already a construction site as they were building the new metro line through there anyway.

In reality it was completely impractical and once someone actually came in and ran some sort of feasibility study it all fell apart pretty quickly. Which was a great shame because I love the concept and out of all the main stadiums in Australia, Sydney's are probably in the least convenient positions.

The best outcome from all this I think is the fact that "LNP sources" have been put together with "new stadium", and it's in print.

This is also pretty promising Shows our mayor is more than just talk on this. Given his recent and repeated electoral successes you would like to think his opinion carries a bit of weight.

Lord Mayor Adrian Schrinner has been corralling business leaders to lobby for an open terms of reference that would allow consideration of a new stadium.

Stakeholders, including the powerful Brisbane organising committee, have previously hinted at the benefits of constructing a new stadium for athletics that would deliver a strong legacy for the Brisbane Lions AFL team and Queensland Cricket.

 

[Dalions]

Interesting new possibility raised in tomorrow's Courier Mail:

I think that site is slightly larger than the current Gabba site, which would likely make it easier to work with.

It's also already set up for construction as the Cross River Rail site, and wouldn't require a school to be torn down.

If it's feasible, building on top of the new station might actually be a perfect solution.

I thought that site would have more building restriction than the existing Gabba site, same width between the 2 streets, so no gain there and would need some decent suspension over the CRR.

 

[Black Panther]

Review chaired by a property developer with lots of other property/infrastructure type people on the board

Smells like Victoria Park

 

[Perrip]

Review chaired by a property developer with lots of other property/infrastructure type people on the board

Smells like Victoria Park

Courier Mail: 'Their time starts now': Olympic review board revealed

Premier David Crisafulli has revealed the list of directors who will conduct the 100-day Olympic Games review.
The Advisory board for the review into Olympic infrastructure will be chaired by Chaired by commercial property guru Stephen Conry AM.
Mr Conry will be joined by co-chair of the athletics and cross country Jill Davies, developer Laurence Lancini, Transurban’s Sue Johnson, entertainment entrepreneur Tony Cochrane, Property Council chief executive Jess Caire and prominent regional hospitality and tourism business owner Jamie Fitzpatrick.
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A major election commitment from the LNP, the review will recommend which stadium project will be used as the main stage for Brisbane 2032.
Mr Crisafulli has previously asserted that the government would not build a new stadium, nor would it pursue the former Labor government’s $1.2bn QSAC upgrade.
The board will be given 100 days to assess all infrastructure projects before handing a report to the government by March 12.