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    News Media Thread, 2024: Insightful, Inciteful and Incomptent

    But you don't commit to a player that you will do whatever it takes to get a trade done for them. You give them an idea of what you value them at and will be willing to trade and let them make the call on whether they think that is going to be enough. If that means some of the players you court...
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    Training Preseason Training Thread - 2024/25

    I wonder if there was anything on offer for Ryan at the trade table. Getting involved in stuff like this indicates the blokes mind is not on his career. If a second rounder was available for him i would have jumped at it, even if we had to eat some of his salary for a couple of years to sweeten...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    Just saw on the news that Edwards has stress fractures in his foot and i am not sure if i heard this right but it sounded like they said "he will finish the season in a moon boot". Anybody else have any info on whether this is season ending for him or not?
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    My point is that you need to think long and hard before trading out first rounders for players over 26 or trading out multiple first rounders for any player if you are not planning to trade some players of your own out for picks in the near future to compensate. Because if you do that and your...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    Some people on here are arguing that first round draft picks don't really matter. And that is not true at all. Not that any club will have anything near a 100% strike rate of success with them. The real strike rate is probably 60% as an average. But that doesn't make it true that first rounders...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    You have to pay a hefty premium for A grade finished products. The value is in the draft and that is where we need to go. We can't afford to be paying premiums for Warner. He is likely to cost 3 draft picks with at least two being first rounders. We just can't do it.
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    List Mgmt. Welcome Campbell Chesser (Pick 14, 2021 National Draft)

    One thing working against how much time Chesser has to prove himself is the change in list manager/football department etc. The people who made the decision to draft him are no longer at the club. So nobody in a decision making role has to bring themselves to admit they made a mistake and wasted...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    They are hiding him on a HBF because they don't where else to put him. If he turns out to be a great player i will admit i am wrong but thats my view. Even WCE Phil, who is hardly a glass is half empty kind of guy with our players and is better informed about these things than any of us, said...
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    List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

    Given Ginbey's poor kicking he is never going to be anything close to an offensive weapon for us coming our of the backline. He really does need to learn how to completely lock down an opponent so he at least offers something defensively to be worth his salt in the team. He is not a total spud...
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    Expectations for 2025

    I don't think top 8 is on the cards at all in the next two years. I think where we finish in the bottom 10 is dependent primarily on 3 things. 1. McQualter's ability to stamp out the attitudinal malaise that took hold of the team in Simpson's last years and that he refused to address. We were...
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    What are the false assertions you speak of? Or is it just that he has an opinion you don't like but don't have any intelligent rebuttal to and there he must be banned? There is a difference between opinions you don't like and false assertions or "misinformation" as the commies call it.
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    I don't know that much about Owies. I know has kicked a few goals for Carlton. But is he one of those small forwards who doesn't snap or shark many goals and relies on having the ball kicked to him on the lead so he can a set shot to kick his goals? Or can he genuinely create goals out of...
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    Thats one problem. The other reason they won't change it is that the AFL want to use it as a lever to manipulate the draft to give free kicks to the Northern clubs. So they don't want a transparent and simple system. The complication of the dog's breakfast of a system they have concocted is...
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    Either that or grossly simplify it by giving each club a zone area of roughly equal population size and allow them to have one player a year from their zone or as a father/son prior to the draft each year. Instead they have got the most ridiculously complicated system imaginable. So complicated...
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    I don't disagree with the strategy of taking the best available with every pick as a general rule. The only downside is that with the area of our list that is most bereft, i.e. the midfield, we didn't really add anything to that with this draft. We might need to modify the "best available"...
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    If Richmond are ****ed for the next 4 years even considering their crop of young talent is 3x what ours is then how long as we ****ed for? Did hanging on to all of our old and overpaid players over the last 4 years do anything to turbo charge the development of our early draft picks like...
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    Gee you are dopey. A rebuild means investing your resources in youth. Not using up resources that would otherwise have been invested in youth in importing 27 years olds at ridiculous overs. That is literally the opposite of getting ahead in your rebuild. You have gone from denying a rebuild...
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    Game Day The 2024 Draft Day Thread

    Oh no. I hope your wrong about that. We absolutely can not afford to bungle any more first round picks. Or we will be in the bottom 4 for another 10 years.
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    Game Day The 2024 Draft Day Thread

    There might be a couple of people on this board who have a lot to do with junior footy or who work in the industry who have informed opinions on the kids going through a draft. But there are not many . And yet we get reams and reams of pages on here with everyman and his dog playing amateur list...
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    Pyke said it explicitly and publicly when confronted in interviews during trade week with the criticism from Kane Cornes and others that they should have walked Baker to the PSD or at least threatenned it to get Richmond to accept a low ball offer. Lots of other media at the time of the awful...
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    List Mgmt. The 2024 Draft (Nov 20/21)

    I am finding it hard to muster interest in the draft either. Too painful to revisit and be reminded of Pyke and Clarkes's disastrous trades. And the excuse they gave that all the other club's will hate us forever and refuse to deal with us going forward if we low ball Richmond or don't give...
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    Membership Renewal for 2025

    The fact that there are still so many people willing to pay these prices for such poor quality performance is a big reason why the club is in the hole it is in. All they care about is money and that hasn't been affected so that enabled them to drag their feet making hard decisions on the list...
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    Expectations for 2025

    I agree. People who think the adaptation to a totally new playing style is going to fast, easy and produce instant results with no teething problems are kidding themselves. Not only do you need to train that gameplan for a considerable period but you need to have the players suited to it. And...
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    News Media Thread, 2024: Insightful, Inciteful and Incomptent

    Pretty poor effort Pyke regarding the staff he sacked. He is losing credibility fast with me. 30 years of service merits much better treatment than the manner in which they have been sacked. I am beginning to think that mental preparing myself for another 4 years in the bottom 4 might have to...
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    Expectations for 2025

    Significantly different gameplan under the new coach. And one which we arguably don't have the ideal personel at this moment to execute, nor have we shown in recent seasons the fitness levels and manic mindset that the gameplan requires to be executed with any degree of competence. I expect a...
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    List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

    The lack of info on Hewett is worrying. It has been total silence. If he was going to be ready to go and good as new for pre season training then i would imagine that they would tripping over themselves to tell us that good news.
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    List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

    We can't and shouldn't allow Warner to be a factor at all in our trade decisions. The people in the media suggesting we should, like Gossage and many others, are total morons. They would actually be even worse at list management than Matt Clarke. There are so many maybe's in the Warner scenario...
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    List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

    If it is the club's opinion that Yeo's body can't handle playing midfield anymore (and they are probably right about that) then why did we just give him a 3 year contract extension (immediately after which he got injured again and his output fell off a cliff)? More Matt Clarke magic.
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    List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

    I was pretty angry at Pyke for the debacle of trade week. But the more i think about it the more i think that the stupid idea of importing middle aged players into the club, even if overpriced and costing us draft capital, was probably not his idea. He sounds very hesitant, weak and incoherent...
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    List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

    I couldn't believe Clarke's interview. He said because Barrass was contracted his position through the whole saga was that it was up to Hawthorn to come to him with a deal. Now, i am no expert on negotiations. I have been part of some negotiations in the business world and done negotiating...
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