Hmmm, dont they break for a few weeks over christmas also
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Last game was August 24 and the official return date is November 25 so that’s a 3 month break (less 2 weeks for the young guys)
As noted above, they also get 3 weeks over Christmas from December 18 to January 7 (come back on the 7th)
So 3 months off, back for a little over 3 weeks then another 3 weeks off - an overall period of 136 days and they’re back in official training mode for 24 of those days (They don’t train on every one of those 24 days either)
Official preseason games are late February / early March so there’s 7-8 weeks of training there (there’s a mandatory 4 day break during this time also). Opening round was about a week later then R1 the week after that
So a block of just over 2 months after the Christmas break until the season proper starts
It’s not as long a preseason as some might think, particularly for a club that will be trying to learn a totally new game plan
As noted above, they also get 3 weeks over Christmas from December 18 to January 7 (come back on the 7th)
So 3 months off, back for a little over 3 weeks then another 3 weeks off - an overall period of 136 days and they’re back in official training mode for 24 of those days (They don’t train on every one of those 24 days either)
Official preseason games are late February / early March so there’s 7-8 weeks of training there (there’s a mandatory 4 day break during this time also). Opening round was about a week later then R1 the week after that
So a block of just over 2 months after the Christmas break until the season proper starts
It’s not as long a preseason as some might think, particularly for a club that will be trying to learn a totally new game plan
Absolutely, if nothing else succeeds, and all our trade/draft picks are as useless as many doomdayers suggest - then according to the new coach's gameplan, at least we will have lots of swerving players out there. Just hope they're all swerving in the right direction and swerving with synergy? We can all get giddy on swervability!
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But they get paid too much to be fairy’s
I want to see some PB's.
Some kents returning early, with fire in their scrotum because they're sick of being a loser team that knows it's more that winning.
Also, Hewett needs to be one of these kents.
Bailey Williams needs to have beefed up because it's finally dawned on the silly w***er his only future in the AFL is that of a ruckman.
Flynn has done the opposite and feels he owes the club after his disastrous first season.
Sheed has added a yard of pace, will be a real asset for the Beagles.
Etc etc etc.
Marsden to train the house down.
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Players to have a clean slate, for better or for worse. Let's get that selection integrity firing.
I reckon we'll still be bottom 4 but hopefully the lay down Sally efforts are behind us.
6-7 wins and another contenders scalp ala Swans in 2024. Percentage solidly in the 80's.
I reckon we'll still be bottom 4 but hopefully the lay down Sally efforts are behind us.
6-7 wins and another contenders scalp ala Swans in 2024. Percentage solidly in the 80's.
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Lay Down Sally, there's a memory
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I say stuff like this to my kids all the time. They roll their eyes and ask me if it's another ones of those things that happened before they were born
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F**k me, it was 20 years ago....I say stuff like this to my kids all the time. They roll their eyes and ask me if it's another ones of those things that happened before they were born
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Three, he played with a young Jamie Cripps at St Kilda too.
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I'm expecting to see a "fast and frenetic" style of ball movement.
I'm optimistic this style will hold up well in the modern game, and given the success of Hardwick's other generals as head coaches let's back Mini in to get the boys running.
I wonder what a fit West Coast even looks like...
It's been years since we've seen consistent efforts and 4 quarter performances. I feel this is what hurts the fans more than anything, just the lack of effort and hunger to be competitive and the best.
I'm optimistic this style will hold up well in the modern game, and given the success of Hardwick's other generals as head coaches let's back Mini in to get the boys running.
I wonder what a fit West Coast even looks like...
It's been years since we've seen consistent efforts and 4 quarter performances. I feel this is what hurts the fans more than anything, just the lack of effort and hunger to be competitive and the best.
I think the fitness was alright last year, but the players choose not to turn up for simmo a few times. There were much better under Schofield (barring St kilda game). I figure they'll be better again as McQualter resets the credits.
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I feel like we aren't skilled enough to play fast and frenetic.
We don't have a lot of clean ball handlers on the ground like the tigers had in their glory days.
They'd just ping it around cleanly by hand , get the ball forward anyway Necessary but when it got there they were skilled and smart.
I feel we are fumbly and/or second guessing
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We don't have a lot of clean ball handlers on the ground like the tigers had in their glory days.
They'd just ping it around cleanly by hand , get the ball forward anyway Necessary but when it got there they were skilled and smart.
I feel we are fumbly and/or second guessing
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That'll happen when you train one style(controlled ball movement) and are suddenly forced to play 'chaos ball'.
You'd be a lot cleaner if you constantly train it, I imagine.
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We've just had those fumbly (Crippa, Masto, Sheed, Darling) types around the list and our kids always seemed to be second guessing themselves. Our 2015-2018 run always seemed like a leave it to the chosen few to do it all type of plan. I can remember railing about it all the time that the workload distribution was completely out of kilter and contributing to our best mids getting injured all the time.
Richmond had class at the forward end but we aren't horrible in that area at all. I'm really hoping more of our mid-field group are empowered to create and take on the game under McQ. It will make us way less predictable.
We cut the 100pt losses down to a net 0 this year which was an improvement.
Next step is cutting back the 10 goal+ losses to hopefully the same, unfortunately can't see that happening but if we can get away with just 2-3 that would be a small positive.
win 50% of our home games will be a big positive and massive step in the right direction.
Get a few wins on the road as well, say 2-3 and we could possibly be looking at a 8+ win season.
Just can't have a similar season to this year, needs to be improved upon by 50%+.
Goes without saying but gonna say it anyway. Need to keep Yeo, Gov and Oallen fit all year and get Flynn, Hewett, Bazzo and yes even Jamo fit and healthy and competing for spots.
Another pre-season into the likes of Ginbey, Hough, Jwiliiams, Reid, Hall,Johnston, Maric, Hutch etc will massive given they have played a fair few games so know where they need to get to.
8 wins and +80% would be good.
10 wins and +90% would be fantastic
Under 7 wins at -70% would be a step backwards
Next step is cutting back the 10 goal+ losses to hopefully the same, unfortunately can't see that happening but if we can get away with just 2-3 that would be a small positive.
win 50% of our home games will be a big positive and massive step in the right direction.
Get a few wins on the road as well, say 2-3 and we could possibly be looking at a 8+ win season.
Just can't have a similar season to this year, needs to be improved upon by 50%+.
Goes without saying but gonna say it anyway. Need to keep Yeo, Gov and Oallen fit all year and get Flynn, Hewett, Bazzo and yes even Jamo fit and healthy and competing for spots.
Another pre-season into the likes of Ginbey, Hough, Jwiliiams, Reid, Hall,Johnston, Maric, Hutch etc will massive given they have played a fair few games so know where they need to get to.
8 wins and +80% would be good.
10 wins and +90% would be fantastic
Under 7 wins at -70% would be a step backwards
Hopefully we try throwing Huntaaa forward
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I agree. People who think the adaptation to a totally new playing style is going to fast, easy and produce instant results with no teething problems are kidding themselves.
Not only do you need to train that gameplan for a considerable period but you need to have the players suited to it. And if you don't have them, which i would argue we currently don't, you need to draft and develop them. This is going to be process that will take 2 or 3 years to bear fruit, not just a 12 week pre season.
Hardwick was not instantly successful with this gameplan at Richmond. It took him 4 years to get them into the 8 and they only just squeaked in. And they didn't stay in. They fell out again pretty quickly. And this was after multiple years of early draft picks before Hardwick got there.
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