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My view is that appointing Dal showed that we weren't taking it seriously. We appointed a club legend with virtually no coaching expertise instead of going and finding the best coach out there. He has obviously learned a lot, but my view is that we need to thank Dal for his service and go and...

Can we do 3-way deals at this stage? If so, I think a deal with NM would need to involve one of the clubs (GWS and Syd i believe? ) willing to trade into next year's draft. That way our F1 could go to the third club, which sends a pick to NM.

I think everyone is forgetting the most important thing about Bo Allen. His dad played 98 games for Hawthorn. Which means that I get to have a little chuckle on draft night, no matter which club picks him up.

Only bright spot out of that result is that surely we go and get a genuine coach now.

Looking at his draft year highlights, I think Wilson has the tools to be a centre square mid. His clearance work was very good, at least in this highlights. I'd love to see him graduate into there. And Ross clearly thinks Henry can play centre square too.

Hipwell has improved year on year. Looks good when given time in the midfield. I'd like to see how he goes in the elite environment.

This is spot on IMO. Twomey's phantom had Patty at 1 but his rankings had Tracc. At 1. https://www.afl.com.au/news/443857/phantom-draft-form-guide-november-update I am unaware of any expert ranking Paddy at 1 (as opposed to having him in the phantom at 1) though it was a long time ago. Would...

That's like summarising the Sopranos as being a show about a family business.

Remember the old days when trade deals includes players?

I remember when he missed from the goal square at Windy Hill.

In retrospect, I would have liked to have Sam Pang from 2010 to 2020. Couldn't have done any worse at trading and drafting, and we would have had lots of fun too.

Looking at this list of players in limbo, I noticed that Jack Bytel is not one. He also hasn't been delisted by the Pies. Does he have a two year deal? Good for him if so. https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/10/03/the-list-of-afl-players-in-limbo-ahead-of-the-trade-period/

The melts under that tweet are absolutely delightful.

I feel like clubs could get overly spooked by the Tassie entry. Word is that they'll get less concessions than GWS/GC and GWS and GC entered in consecutive years and basically took up three (four?) years of talent (including taking pre-draftees 12 months before they entered the comp etc). So, in...

I have three siblings. We have 12 kids between us and we've inflicted the Saints on all 12. They get so sad at the footy, LOL!

Does anyone know what it says? Paywalled.

I always thought it did, but not according to this: https://www.afl.com.au/about-afl/free-agency Maybe the original formula took B&F and Brownlow finishes into account? Or did I just make that up?

What have they done?

We will absolutely succeed at convincing the AFL to abolish Father Son just before the Riewoldt boys have the three greatest seasons in u18s history.

I saw it differently. I was lucky enough to be at the game up high. In the first quarter and a half when the game was on the line, there were three or four times when Neale won a contested ball in a phone box. The Swans were pushing forward in waves and Neale would spit out the back of the pack...

The Norm Smith voters presumably indulged liberally from an open bar. Neale was best on. I can certainly understand putting Ashcroft first in your voting, but two judges not giving Neale second place and one not including him at all! Umps would have done a better job.

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I'm so sick of having one of the youngest lists. It's literally for losers.

Wouldn't you love the media to make excuses for you the way the media make excuses for Geelong. My favourite part: "two off field staff" got COVID! https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/covid-gastro-and-hamstrings-the-misfortune-in-geelong-s-preliminary-final-heartbreak-20240921-p5kcdz.html

Please don't lose to Hawthorn. Good performance last week to turn the tide after being thoroughly outplayed in the first quarter and a half. Was great to get to Windy Hill and listen to the Bombers fans not saying much. We were down on form but our best players got moving late when the game...

...you could also list one Jack Steele in that category. He was young, but not seen by many as a potential AA mid (I think the skipper of GWS at the time was an exception).

If he's attending 40 or 50% CBAs that's a huge difference for our midfield.

I hope that's not the case. He had 0, 0 and 7% CBAs in the last 3 games he played.

Lots of posts about the speed of our midfield. Ross has made it clear (through his actions) that Liam Henry will be given the chance to cement a spot in the centre square (if he gets a good preseason).

Urgh. Geelong is the new Essendon when it comes to trades. They'd ask for 3 top ten picks, Max King and Naz.