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  1. martinson

    Non Lions Discussion 2024

    They're all going to come for us if we have sustained success just like in 2004. Hopefully we took those lessons in. Has he for one moment asked himself why Brisbane is successful now ? It's by doing the opposite of what St.Kilda has done. Step 1. Have a club ,coaches and environment where...
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    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    Injuries, loss of form ,players not coming on as expected or others losing focus and motivation. It happens to all teams. The key is to keep getting as many good players on to your list as you can and keeping them there and offloading the ones who won't make it. Rinse and repeat.
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    Review Grand Final, 2024 - Sydney vs. Brisbane Lions

    Interesting point is that our current gameplan is absolutely made for the MCG.
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    Unofficial Preview Lions 2024 B&F Dicussion

    Dom did a great job with it one year but yet to hear anything this year so presume not but in the light of us winning the big one maybe they've been busy and perhaps we'll hear something soon.
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    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    In hindsight Fagan and whoever else was involved did an awesome job in getting Joe to Brisbane because it wouldn't have been easy. And what it cost us compared to where he was even then was a steal. Whether he goes on or not who knows but what's staring him in the face is the chance to become...
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    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    The Joe saga is one of the weirdest things I've ever seen in footy and makes no sense unless it's Joe in which case it makes perfect sense.
  7. martinson

    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    I don't think he's Beardancer.
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    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    Btw Brab I remember you getting a little toey before the 2023 GF. I'm happy now you got through that and it's for rusted on supporters like yourself (and myself I might add) that 2024 must've been so sweet. Sometimes we just have to be patient.
  9. martinson

    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    Why wouldn't they want both ? Stack their forward line with a few bigger guys.
  10. martinson

    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    Incorrect. He's a great prospect. First class citizen as well. But might take another year or two.
  11. martinson

    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    Correct. But there's more than one way to skin a cat. And we're not entirely sure of the value of what we have.
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    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    We've just proven our own backyard is a good place to look for left field options. Wasting money on has beens ,never wases , or questionable cultural influences would be a step in the wrong direction. Joe is a great player ,a pivotal player , but not irreplaceable with what we have. Hipwood...
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    Review Grand Final, 2024 - Sydney vs. Brisbane Lions

    Totally agree. What he did on the stats sheet was more than enough . What's a bit forgotten is that he took Whitfield , Stewart and Blakey half out of the game. Most clubs would be happy if someone did that in a total nullifying role even if they didn't get it themselves. And then we trusted...
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    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    I like this. Also don't forget we already know that Fort can come in and be an adequate replacement for Oscar in a few games. One of the problems we've faced over the past couple of years is that with Oscar as sole ruck he's eventually going to get cooked at times. Just being more flexible with...
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    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    I'm not worried at all if Joe retires. We've got 6 months to figure something out. Of course we want him to play on but it's something we have no control over and like the obstacles we faced this year we'll adapt.
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    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    Ha Ha. We won the flag by 10 goals 2 days ago and already Ralphy telling us why we're in trouble. Wait until we get Levi and Marshall. The sourpuss on everything non Vic will want to completely overhaul the draft rules.
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    Review Grand Final, 2024 - Sydney vs. Brisbane Lions

    Ashy was next best just because of his cleanness and effectiveness when he got it marginally in front of Cal whose hardness , judgement and finishing skills was really crucial in the majority of our goals in the first half. And he torched Blakey ( the AA champ ) who couldn't match him in the air...
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    Review Grand Final, 2024 - Sydney vs. Brisbane Lions

    Rewatched the game without the emotional investment you have live. Neale was incredible . Ashy couldn't have done what he did without Neale. Just so many small things you wouldn't have noticed without slowing the feed that ended in scores. Neale's capacity to get the ball in traffic with...
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    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    Oh for sure I agree. But once you go overboard in accommodating someone it can affect the playing group if things aren't going that well. If everyone's happy about it and it means the difference between Joe playing on and not you obviously have to go with it. He really is invested in the...
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    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    One stand out at the game was when the team ran out to the banner Joe just headed off in a different direction on his own. Superstition ?
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    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    Didn't Mal Michael want to do something like that and Lethal said bugger off ?
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    Coach Fages and the coaching group

    Great point. We finally won a flag by changing and evolving and what will keep us at the top is to keep doing that. That could involve some difficult decisions but we have the core there now plus the fringe players who have become core to keep contending for a while yet.
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    Coach Fages and the coaching group

    You'll note the Swans gameplan worked for the first 10 minutes when we didn't kick straight and they got us twice n the way back. After that it was pretty much one way traffic.
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    Coach Fages and the coaching group

    Likewise in hindsight we knew Geelong and GWS were the teams we had to get over. It turns out we were very confident we could beat the Swans. Sydney's clog up the backline and rebound with speed showed up big time on the MCG against a disciplined opponent who had the cattle to firstly hurt them...
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    Coach Fages and the coaching group

    Ha ha. That was just awesome Tom. I think I would've thumbed up every one of those posts. They weren't unreasonable at the time. Here's a little inside goss for you. Someone at the function was who has played under both Hardwick and Fagan was asked what's it like , what's the difference ...
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    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    Joe was the only guy still in his footy gear at the after match function. Seemed to be enjoying himself. The rest had all changed to some extent or another.
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    List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

    Mentally I'm fairly sure what Joe gave us this year was all he had in him. He spent almost the whole season on the ground , barely any interchange time. Now that he's had the exhilaration of the win and gets some time to relax and reflect if he has decided time's up he can always change his...
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    Review Grand Final, 2024 - Sydney vs. Brisbane Lions

    It's all obvious in hindsight. Once we abandoned the kick it down the line approach and embraced the chaos ball and the risk of the corridor , and had the cattle to implement it ,that's a game made for the MCG. Sydney in contrast chalked up the most of their wins on much smaller/narrower...
  29. martinson

    List Mgmt. 2024 Father Son watch MKIII. Operation Ashcroft jnr. Featuring various academy boys.

    People who know more than me can correct me if I'm wrong but the feeling is we'll do fine in this year's draft and after that it's going to get a whole lot harder. So it's important that we hang on to any younger players with potential.
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    Coach Fages and the coaching group

    We're slowly getting Richmond back for whatever they did to us. Two more flags to go.
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