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https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/live-afl-trade-period-deadline-day-20191016-p5312y.html Peter Ryan, on The Age live blog: Just so you know, clubs aren’t allowed to officially lodge a trade (and its paperwork) until 3pm on deadline day. Normally, on every other day of trade period, clubs can...

\ If this was his take on the player list I can see why he flopped.

Do the Saints have the Cap space to offer that? I know there seems to be a few leaving this season but a few are coming in that would want bigger contracts too.

Not sure about giving up so many picks but might as well try and get 3 of the SA draftees and build around them.

If you hate Lloyd Don't scroll down to the comments my Lord.

It could get you pick 3 it won't but it still could.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-10-06/youre-the-list-manager-dream-trades, Some of these trades for Suns players are great laugh. " Go for someone affordable like Jack Martin" Not sure how they missed this name though.

And yet here you are complaining about SA players going to the Suns?:think::think::think:

I wouldn't pay more than a third for a player that couldn't even get into a team that got demolished by the Pies.

Sheedy was a big factor too, really helped set the tone for the club.

Even though we screwed up I still wish we had the same concessions GWS got to start up.

That's fine to do, hoping that late round picks will turn into stars slows down our rebuild. We need all he best 22 talent we can get and hoping to get that in later rounds is less consistent then in getting those players in the top 5.

Using Hawthorn as an example doesn't compare to us. They had a good enough team at the time to experiment with players like that to take a chance on. While we just need top talent all around to improve the team.

That's a big over oversimplification of the draft, sure those players could be there at later picks but they have to be put in the correct position to succeed. Picking in the top 5 gives you a better chance of getting a player that has the talent to be best 22. Sure you can get lucky with later...

A lot of Barlow questions in there.

Takes me back to the O'Meara trade, Can't remember what spuds they were trying to convince us was fair value.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/exgold-coast-defender-campbell-brown-fears-suns-could-be-shut-down-by-afl-within-the-decade/news-story/96288478e628dd86506bfb5b5a0e20f1?nk=571318b57d1ce7bf1c98a1774e3709a6-1510205902 Anyone see this story yesterday?

I'm not saying the guy is awful, just his current talent level isn't worth pick 2 level. We obviously have to overpay to get players here but that is an overpay in the hope that one day he may get to a level of justifying what we payed. We are basically removing all the spotlight from Ablett and...

If you were trying to move up from pick 9 or 10, as its the middle of the 7-12 range, you'd have to offer multiple future picks, multiple current picks and maybe a player. We got one guy for that much of a move up. Sure he may turn out to be worth that pick 2 evaluation but currently he isn't there.

Guy is worth pick 7-12 or so. We payed pick 2 for him.

Because it seems more like we were pressured into offering up pick 2 so we could get a face for PR after losing Ablett.

How much do you think the AFL pushed for Weller to be at the Suns?

I'd hope so he's contracted to us and pretty good. ;)

He's better than O'Rourke to be fair.

Could've had Toumpas, McCrae, Stringer, Wines. Big miss on that pick.

Kelly I would definitely, maybe Petracca and Taranto but they are still young.

Is that to Victorian clubs? But seriously hoping we can replace Saad he will be a big loss.

Yea one didn't cost pick 2.