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Thanks for clearing up the participation / funding question. It's not just our local club playing 8 a side indoor under the 9s banner there are a few indoor centres over here that do it. Things are obviously a bit different over here. Are they selling AFL 9s sub-licenses (franchise...

Over here (5 mins from my house and seen it with my own eyes, mates play in it) they play 8 a side indoor footy under the AFL 9s banner. In front of me I have a document titled AFL 9s Indoor Playing Rules which states on the first page " the game is played between 2 teams of 8 players and one...

Thanks for that info Wookie. As I said, we are well aware that we are not the first group to play 9 a side Australian football and have never claimed that. I guess what we are doing draws some parallels to the UFC. They didnt invent mixed martial arts as its been around for millennia but they...

Go onto the patent aust website and look up nine per side australian football. We are well aware that we are not the first group to play nine a side football but as the patent office found no one was playing it with full contact rules on an oval our size without zones and with nine point...

Mate check out www.footynines.com. Its already happening. In 2009 a group from Perth saw the trend in international sports towards high scoring and entertaining short format concepts (Twenty20, rugby 7s etc) and patented the concept. In response the AFL rebranded their 8 a side AFL recreation...

Agree with your first statement. AFL is still a tough game but people get injured in netball so I don't think your second statement holds much weight. Injuries doesn't = toughness as players can and do get injured even without contact. Rules haven't changed but interpretation has a directive...

Agree. It did get off topic. But just reiterating that the AFL will never be truly equal because it was built on unequal foundations and the only way to achieve an even australian football competition would be to think outside the box and start again from scratch. Thanks telsor for your...

All valid and fair points and all have been considered. Your right about it all but just a reminder that contrary to popular belief the AFL have as much ownership of the game of australian football as mcdonalds does hamburgers. It is just their version/brand. Mr hungry jacks can bring out his...

How many players did you see pull out of contests last year? Most coaches tell their players not to bump now because of the small margin for error and the high risk of suspension. The inconsistencies of the mrp just add to the trepidation as the players, coaches etc dont know what is legal...

Only because they have a monopoly and therefore aren't accountable to the true stakeholders of the game, the fans. If there was an alternative that offered high quality football in a more equal and truly national format im sure the fans would consider making a stand against them but until the...

Careful Madmug I've already had some of my posts deleted from this thread obviously because I'm just another wa troll who disagreed with the wookmeisters pov. The AFL can never be equal because it's still the VFL with a shiny new badge. If you want equal you have to start from scratch. Contrary...

Sorry continuing from my last post that time lapsed. B) Realise that the concept has performance and financial benefits and so bring out their own piss weak version of the concept. Clubs still want to play the start up groups version because it is more like football compared to the AFLs version...

Fair points. Self interest is spot on Madmug. The AFL are just masquerading as a non profit organisation that cares about the greater good of football. They are a money making corporate brand/version of the sport that is Australian football who wants to maintain their financial monopoly(the...

Apologies, I'm new at this. Where can I find those threads?

Ok everyone agrees that the structure of the AFL is fundamentally flawed for numerous reasons. If it was any other industry where competition was encouraged it wouldn't be viable to have approximately 5/18 of your "franchises" losing money and those "franchises" would fold. Instead the AFL have...

Why do you believe it can't happen? It can happen and rumours are that the revolution is coming! The fundamentals of the AFL (just a rebranded VFL) mean that the AFL will never be fair or equitable. 10 teams located in the same state means that they will never be able to balance the schedule...

More like the Rugby7s & Twenty20 cricket tournaments. Tournaments of the Australian football shortened format version to be played over the summer months when there is no other football to enjoy. The NRL have dropped their regular pre season to play a Rugby 9s tournament in Aukland. Rugby Union...

Spot on Reaper! They are the judge, jury and executioner of all things football and will always act in their brands best interest. The AFL commission which is the official governing body of Australian football will never be independent as long as the CEO of the number1 and only brand (the...

The AFL doesn't care about the sport of Australian football, they are a brand that is only concerned with profits and maintaining their financial monopoly (How did a pty ltd company get granted not for profit status and given control over an entire industry?). In 2010 a group from Perth came up...

Yeah AFL 9s is pretty soft. More like netball then football . You should check out Footy Nines, full contact, Marking contests permitted , more like real footy and pretty fun to play . www.footynines.com