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Play the SANFL team games before Port matches in Adelaide...and North Melbourne matches in Melbourne......surely a winner?

For those still ignorant of the economic consensus on major event bidding and deluded into the fanciful benefits trumpeted by vested interest: http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/12/02/why-losing-the-world-cup-bid-is-a-big-win-a-guest-post/ The FFA exploited false economics and old...

*would have cost ;)

Haha, give him a break...he's had a tough day!

Very much a hypothetical I would have thought. No way we should EVER bid again unless FIFA reform And the AFL should never support another bid unless they have a representative on the bid team.

So FIFA are corrupt, WOW did we not know that all ready? The sad thing is we so desparately tried to win the right for them to make a packety while we compromised ourselves economically and culturally Our game is on a very long term upward curve. This would have been jolted no doubt if we had...

It would be absolute madness to bid for this thing again until: an objective process is instituted that clearly defines criteria BEFORE bids are assembled the existing stadia meets, or almost meets, the requirements If we are to bid again, outside of the fanciful event that soccer actually...

In between a whole lot of wind-bag ranting about anti-"football", zealot, delusional, pathetic, bias afl fanboys etc can someone please confirm that WCOZ2022 asserted above that the FFA "kindly" gave up the AAMI park so it wouldn't clash with the GF replay? :D:D:D:D:D

Yes, clearly. I am referring to those who purchase AFL memberships at the expense of Premium club memberships.

How funny is this nofitzroynoafl dude? Won't follow football cos one club in almost 100 years was forced into a merger, but presumably follows the A-League which is wholely a league of franchises that was founded on the almost wholescale disenfranchisement of the existing clubs...go figure And...

Nah, you're selfish. Fat cats on the board? What do you mean by that? Do you think they get paid? By all means be selfish. I get a worst deal from a Collingwood social club membership, pay more, but at least i go to sleep at night knowing i'm not a low-life scab

Dude, buy a premium Collingwood membership. AFL memberships are kinda equivalent to scab labour. They get all the benefits of watching a premiership team but instead purchase a membership from the League commission which has absolutely no right competing with its clubs in offering it. Its called...

I still read it liike that, though I could be wrong Bottom line is we still have a likely false claim hanging there and neither party (ASC or Ken) seem concerned enough to correct the record either way. How hard could it be to just upload the central evidence of the existence of this game and...

Great work again, Pie Eyed So now we have: The ASC pass the buck to Ken Edwards Ken Edwards claims the ASC have miss-represented his work And Woggabaliri now exists to the casual wiki researcher: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woggabaliri Any journo can read through this thread and most of...

Haha, sorry Zabs...just assumed you were are red neck!

Zabs, here is a good starting point if you sincerely want to get a feel about the aboriginal nations that existed pre-europeans. http://www.abc.net.au/indigenous/map/default.htm The point of this thread though is the apaprent fabrication of the history of these people for a clealry modern agenda.

Cos if there are 100 games in the one "area" you'll have a higher average than if there was only 20....hang on, i'm a little condused to. Has the A League average gone up or down in Melbourne with an extra team?

roughly 1/3 of crowds this year over 40,000 2/3s over 30,000 http://stats.rleague.com/afl/crowds/2010.html

instead a compensation package has been worked out that won't disadvantage the AFL....what's your problem?

Like a smack addict who you handed $4 in change to but they wanted a note...

No malice but there certainly appears to be fraud. The touch game is also ridiculous as are many more I'm sure. You can't just make stuff up and pass it off as research.

BSE, some of the language of used towards Ken Edwards may have been harsh, but he has puit himself in this position. There are a number of vitally important principles that appear to be compromised here and one shouldn't expect to get away with that with impunity. Remember, this man draws his...

To be fair the FFA are hardly the worst offender in all this. They could rightly have expected the ASC to have done due diligence in all this. It is the ASC that should be worried. They have taken the research of a PE teacher who was claiming to have discovered that various indigenous tribes...

There are two issues - first the interpretation that "high performance" relates only to international sports and, more particularly, the more international the better (i.e soccer and olympics) The second is that they have historically provided very little to particpation i.e. have been obsessed...

So you still believe this, Mustafa? A small band of fanatics? Why can't you address the issue rather than a cheap, hollow dismissal and personal attack? Read my opening post if you want to know why I am disgusted by this. And yes, I compare my research skills very favourably to Ken Edwards, a...

What an embarrassment for Tim Hilferty.....just goes to show the degradation of journalism in the country and the number of low grade critical thinkers...a professional would have asked for some evidence....he mujst be a cadet.... ...i'd always thought that aborigines lacked a numbering system...

"KEN EDWARDS: A game similar to touch football called baroinchin, which was played with a small ball made out of kangaroo hide stuffed with fir, and it was played by girls and boys in a cleared area. And at the end of each end of the playing area was a pole put in the ground. And in the...

The dude has now taken the picture of Marn Grook down from the Wiki page - after first defending it on his own Wiki User Page looks like we are circling in on Ken Edwards.... Has anyone forwarded this to a journo who might have the guts to persue it?

Wow, they have sent their best logician over....I...I...I see now, the A in ASC stands for Australia ergo they have every right to fabricate history and get Australians to play foreign games rather than our national game!

Great work Pie Eyed, sounds like we are on the money.. ...now can someone track down that Ken Edwards chap and ask him a few questions?