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you belong in a shed you tool! Heard of developement? How was gary abletts first few years?? The kid was only 17, finishing school, traingin fifty percent of the time, still a twig.. how about giving him a chance

Wishful thinking.. Hawthorns Lisle, Shoenmakers and Cyril have more talent in there little finger than he has..

was that what dickson said about him after the championships last year?? Must have been rated highly by the vic staff as well

Why? He hasn't played. And no one said he had, all that was said was he's better. Nothings been mentioned about this year

Amazing. Two Kerr's!! Your midfeild must be unstoppable

because your forwards would keep a bloke out kicking bags of 5 and 6 every week.. tool

what are his chances of debuuing next year? round 1 in particular?

Shuey's first injury since playing under 18's has been his o.p this year, then a freak incident and you'r claiming his injury prone? And as for going home in 18 months, how in the world would you know this?? As for the comment you made under jones, are you seriously a west coast supporter?? One...

i watched this kid last year because i had a few mates that plyed for the oakleigh chargers. I havn't followed much of him this year, but i know he has had a terrible run this year.. whens he expected to debut?? what are peoples views on him?

Worst attempt at sledging a side. Some of your statements, nic nat the worst kick in the afl?? CoZ that's easily judged off his 1st game in his first season. And as for Kennedy being the spud Carlton rejected.. well, that pretty much sums up your knowledge of players. That 'spud' is the...

you mean, **family issues back home

what a stupid comment.. well its a shame west coast dont have reiwoldt, judd, cousins, deledio, and havent had harvey, locket, bartel, west, buckley, franklin or ablett for the last 3 years. otherwise they would of added 3 more premierships to there collection...

went down to watch michael hurley train the other day.. no sighn of him... everyone but he was out there.. anyone know why??

word on the street.. shuey and swift partners in crime. training the house down togther, only 2 first years to be full training. Definately something to be excited about hows liam bedford going? anybody heard?

Heard from a mate that spoke to shuey and smith. Shuey joined full training alongside swift, while mcginnity did half and didnt sit out the whole of training.

hes gotta get a game first boys..

i sort of lost track of this argument but im getting the impression that there is some w@nk#r bragging about melbourne having some super star young list coming through.. quite sad to be honest

how can you rate his fitness so low?? id love to see the bloke run who you rate 10/10;)

he couldnt have.. shueys disposal isn't good enough to get it to him. its shocking

yarran to freo at 3 :thumbsu:

shuey or beams at 11 for mine

I admire peoples efforts to have a crack at phantom draft.. likewise yourself, and most of it makes sense. But IMO i can't believe you think shuey beams and klemke will last till 5 and 6th rounds

Yeah im certainly sprouting made up reasons aren't i... i mean, melbourne dont need a big key forward, so they wont take watts.. or essendon dont need to replace a full back position, so they wont take hurley.. or was it one of my decisions that makes you thinik im sprouting crap??;)

shueys clearly tougher than robinson, and robinson IMO gets most of his possessions from handball recieves. Although, a very good outside player

Word on the street is, "shithouse attitude"

i struggle to see why collingwood would take beams over a shuey or zaharakis when he's an interstate kid. Generally, clubs who are looking for a specific sort of player with the same sort of mould etc, will take the one from home state. and Whats the point of posting a phantom draft without...

who said they dont rate him? of course poeple rate him.. the kid played vic metro mate. But the thread asks, who youd preferr? who would you preferr playinf ruck.. brent harvey or dean cox??.. obviouly cox, but it doesnt mean you dont rate harvey plus the bolden info you'v given.. mate if...

and shuey, the more tougher, determined, fitter couldnt?

So you'd take shuey any day of the week?? :D

The two on ball stars of the ever successful vic metro team this year. Two very similar players in my opinion, and will be around the same mark come draft day i'd say (20-40).. but, who would you want and why??