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I’m one of those who truly didn’t appreciate impacts of free agency etc but probably correct. Those picks are getting ugly compared to where they started. Imagine if Collingwood finished top 4.

I think Richmond want to deal at the top of the draft. Don’t think they will be excited about dealing late picks.

Closer. 10 11 18 for Bolton 15 33 Need to hold a top 20 pick and 18 will blow out further.

I thought you were unlikely to draft beyond 30 due to picks coming in from GC as well? Out of contract though. Eagles will be very reluctant to trade that pick.

Like I said WC probably need to give more like an F2 and Richmond F3 coming back or they get 24 and we get 20 instead but to be honest if we could get Bolton and keep a pick in the top 15 and 1 in the top 25 I would be pretty happy.

Wash my eyes out I know but what about: Freo In: Bolton, 15 and 24 Out: 10 11 18 and 30 Rich In: 10 11 18 Out: Bolton Baker 24 33 Bris In: 30 and 33 Out: 20 WCE In: Baker 20 Out: 15 Richmond will argue that their late picks alone can get 20 from Brisbane...

It really is a very solid looking draft, normally by pick 30 the numbers really start to fall away but not this bunch. I think there will be 10 players go in the actual top 30 not in that list. I think people are over thinking it with Jagga Smith, the trap of being too good for too long so...

Would rather give you guys 10 11 18 and 27 with 14 and 23 coming back. You get our 2 highest picks and upgrade our next two picks.

Certainly a very GWS thing to do. Maybe Saints are interested in splitting one of their top 10 picks in which case GWS might be inclined to send 15 and 16 to them.

In 2020 GC drafted 1 player Elijah Hollands and elevated 3 rookies In 2021 Carlton just took Jesse Motlop and elevated Josh Honey and Matt Kennedy from rookie list.

I thought rookie elevations could count for all 3 without a limit ?

If Geelong take on that contract in whole then F2 is completely fine. On the flipside Melbourne in no shape or form should de-risk this contract by taking on any salary.

I enjoy the back and forth and understanding what perceived value looks like, fills the gaps waiting for something real. I note the equivalent thread in 2013 lasted 64 pages :), more fun making grand finals obviously. I asked what people would do if North come knocking and I think they will...

What is more than 9? If it is adding 10 then yep 21 coming back at least. I don't think we get anything back with adding 16 maybe 41 or F3 if Richmond are feeling generous. He is contracted.

I feel we need to apply a 2019 draft lens to this draft. Not too many misses in that first 20 picks. Here are the picks to 19, Warner, Coleman and Rivers picked after that: 1 Matt Rowell Gold Coast Oakleigh Chargers 2 Noah Anderson Gold Coast Oakleigh Chargers 3 Luke Jackson Melbourne...

I don’t think Bolton would risk his financial security. Pick 9 only Freo wins, doubt Richmond do it Pick 9 and 16 slightly favours Richmond on historical trade value Pick 9 and 10 Freo loses

I don't think people are saying trade into next year just for Warner. You generally get a premium to offset risk of unknown standing of the future pick. If that future pick improves our hand for a potential Warner trade how can that be bad. All depends on how you value this year's draft vs next...

Are you not saying that 9 and 16 on points value is more than fair compared with Cameron trade and being argued with by a Freo fan? Confused.

Apparently keen to get an extra pick in this draft, get a kid 1 year earlier in a strong draft, possible chance to get to 8 wins next year, has to happen sometime. GC pick reserved for Richmond. Only other realistic pick is Saints if they get the high pick for Battle. If we did have to give the...

North's pick based on their finishing position.

If a desperate North offered F1 and 22 for 10 and 27 would we take it?

Thanks sorry didn't see the legend hence the asterisk.

Saw him at Mandurah for the final against Claremont. I felt really good.

How can a player be in green for three teams ie Dan Houston.

If Ed Allan doesn't get a good crack next year in seniors should we look at him? Seemed like his last three VFL games looked pretty good.

2017 Draft 10 Lochie O'Brien 11 Aiden Bonar 12 Darcy Fogarty 13 Jarrod Brander 14 Matthew Ling 15 Zac Bailey 16 Ed Richards 17 Jack Higgins 18 Brandon Starcevich I know where I would like my team to be picking.

Mundy time

So Freo can add a top 50 player in the comp and grab two high end kids in a supposed super draft and keep picks in next year's draft. I'd like to see that.

Oh yes so actually taking 9 and 16 works out better.