Traded #13: Andrew Lovett

[ant555]

Re: 13. Andrew Lovett

It surprises me that people are willing to put up with his lazy non existant efforts that he puts in for 70% of the game. Yes he has the ability to run hard and break through the middle but he doesnt do it enough. He needs to be running though the middle at spped 10 to 15 times in a game.
He also can't choose when he wants to go to a contest or chase someone.
He has a great asset in his pace but he is way too selective as to when he uses it.
His selective and lazy efforts are part of what is stopping us from being a decent side and players who don't want to lift to another level can jump on the next train out of town. It is about time we turned our list back into a hard dedicated unit that works for each other and not the soft ,lazy bunch that has resided at Windy Hill for the last 5 years.

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

Re: 13. Andrew Lovett

^^ Harsh, but fair ant. Daniel Wells seems to have the same problem and the media is always fairly critical of him.

 

[Slattery_20]

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i dont think we will get what we want for him and he will become a better player than ever next season. he really wants to stay.

Such an odd way of showing it though, by not rocking up to training. A new coach (should) always shake things up - where Sheedy would have had patience with a fairly successful project player, Knights may see it as a case of fool me once, fool me twice...

Hope we can use him to upgrade a pick by a round or two.

That way we get another really quality prospect. Then if Skipworth comes onto the list (as hinted by Knights, speculation only, and he would be a late round or PSD pick) we don't lose all that much around that wing/half forward area or in terms of experience.

 

[adamcf]

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The trouble now is what we'll get for him in the draft.. I would've like the 'dons to have played their cards closer to their chest on this one. I guess people in the know still would've known that his name would be floated as a possible trade.

 

[Bombertastic]

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I don't think we should give up on him. At least he's one player we have that can break lines and carry the ball at pace. Goes direct and fits our game plan. I would hate to see him go and say we should give him another chance.

 

[Longy413]

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It surprises me that people are willing to put up with his lazy non existant efforts that he puts in for 70% of the game.

He makes us a better side, people understand that.

Lack of effort or not, I think most people are willing to punt on him pulling in his finger out rather than taking a punt on getting a player with equal ability in the draft.

Sometimes, it's just a case of better the devil you know. Especially when the devil is as gifted as Andrew Lovett.

 

[TheDon35]

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He makes us a better side, people understand that.

Lack of effort or not, I think most people are willing to punt on him pulling in his finger out rather than taking a punt on getting a player with equal ability in the draft.

Sometimes, it's just a case of better the devil you know. Especially when the devil is as gifted as Andrew Lovett.

Hasn't made us a better side to often in 2008.

Not doubting his ability but it's time to move forward and if this means taking a punt to get some young talent in then so be it. Plenty of chances and has moved in the wrong direction this year.

Time to go.

 

[efcboy]

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He makes us a better side, people understand that.

Lack of effort or not, I think most people are willing to punt on him pulling in his finger out rather than taking a punt on getting a player with equal ability in the draft.

Sometimes, it's just a case of better the devil you know. Especially when the devil is as gifted as Andrew Lovett.

we've been waiting for him to pull the finger our for a few years now - i gave up earlier in the year pointing the finger at him for being a soft frontrunner with no heart who has no place at a great club like essendon.

 

[Longy413]

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we've been waiting for him to pull the finger our for a few years now - i gave up earlier in the year pointing the finger at him for being a soft frontrunner with no heart who has no place at a great club like essendon.

He averaged 18 disposals this season and had only three games where he had less than 15 and only three above 20.

18 disposals a game is a great return for the role he plays and he is in and around his average week in, week out.

He doesn't win games every week, only the likes of Ablett and Franklin do that. But over the last two seasons he's contributed in the majority of games he's played.

If you're looking for him to break the game apart and become an elite player, it probably isn't going to happen. If you want someone that is going to contribute, use the ball well and be part of our 22 for the next 5-6 years then we have him already, why take a risk in trying to replace him.

 

[TheDon35]

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He averaged 18 disposals this season and had only three games where he had less than 15 and only three above 20.

18 disposals a game is a great return for the role he plays and he is in and around his average week in, week out.

He doesn't win games every week, only the likes of Ablett and Franklin do that. But over the last two seasons he's contributed in the majority of games he's played.

If you're looking for him to break the game apart and become an elite player, it probably isn't going to happen. If you want someone that is going to contribute, use the ball well and be part of our 22 for the next 5-6 years then we have him already, why take a risk in trying to replace him.[/quote]

Because we need to get better and our current crop of middle age players are close to the worst in the league.

Yes he can contribute his 15 - 22 disposals a game and has the ability to break the lines and kick goals. I'm not doubting that. The fact is though that with the likes of Jetta, Dempsey, Davey, Reimers playing similar rolls (maybe not consistantly granted), he is a player we can afford to loose in the pursuit of a better list.

Additionally, he's shown that he doesn't value his opportunity the way he should and his game against St Kilda was one of a bloke who clearly doesn't care about the club.

 

[Longy413]

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Yes he can contribute his 15 - 22 disposals a game and has the ability to break the lines and kick goals. I'm not doubting that. The fact is though that with the likes of Jetta, Dempsey, Davey, Reimers playing similar rolls (maybe not consistantly granted)

Similar roles because they are quick????

None of them play a similar role to Lovett.
The only one at the club that does, you haven't mentioned and that's Winderlich.

 

[TheDon35]

Re: 13. Andrew Lovett

Similar roles because they are quick????

None of them play a similar role to Lovett.
The only one at the club that does, you haven't mentioned and that's Winderlich.

Maybe haven't played the same roll as Lovett in Essendon's senior side but are similar footballers.

Quick, highly skilled players, good in traffic, ability to kick a goal or 2, good footy sense

You're missing the point.

You are happy to keep putting along with a poor side and finishing in the bottom 5 each year.

I want the side to improve. Taking a risk and trading Lovett for possibly a second round pick is a positive move in the right direction for the club.

 

[essendon2008]

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I can't decide how i feel with Lovett...

I would be disappointed if he left, however I would like it if we got something valuable for him.

Sure he is way too inconsistent and is quite aggravating to watch, however I feel this is a good problem to have compared to lack of talent or being in poor form.

I feel if we can get him more motivated and hungry he will do what he does so well, more often.

We should remember, even if we like him or not, that when he is playing well, the whole team lifts and he has a positive effect on the whole side (on the field at least).

He is a bit like Lucas is now, if he plays a solid game, the whole team lifts their work rate. I don't mean Lucas is not a very good player, but even when not quite right he adds structure to the team. I feel Lovett does the same through his energy.

 

[essendon2008]

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You are happy to keep putting along with a poor side and finishing in the bottom 5 each year.

This is unfair. No Essendon supporter would turn down success. Longy just believes that Lovett is valuable to Essendon rising up the ladder.

 

[Longy413]

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This is unfair. No Essendon supporter would turn down success. Longy just believes that Lovett is valuable to Essendon rising up the ladder.

Bingo.

Well said.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

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This is unfair. No Essendon supporter would turn down success. Longy just believes that Lovett is valuable to Essendon rising up the ladder.

While others like to play Russian Roulette.

 

[TheDon35]

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While others like to play Russian Roulette.

I'd rather be playing russian roulette and being in the game than just being crap each year.

 

[loopy_cam]

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Based on his performance tonight, I say keep him.

 

[Blowfly]

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Based on his performance tonight, I say keep him.

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What did I miss?

 

[The Dustbin]

Re: 13. Andrew Lovett

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What did I miss?

Performed in the players review on TFS. Did a solo, then team up with Rodan and Holland for the grand finale.

 

[Thrust]

Re: 13. Andrew Lovett

Based on his performance tonight, I say keep him.

I think that's far more evidence we need to trade him.

From Michael Jackson to that...

 

[Myers Fanatic]

Re: 13. Andrew Lovett

Lovett is all class! Lol, hes a GUN dancer ay?
But yeah, we need him at the Bombers next year, as loopy cam said, the thought of him carving us up, if he got traded is something that I would hate.

 

[DaSawx]

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Gun dancer? No. Nigel Lythgoe would have cutg his ass in seconds

 

[The Donners]

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Lovett is all class! Lol, hes a GUN dancer ay?
But yeah, we need him at the Bombers next year, as loopy cam said, the thought of him carving us up, if he got traded is something that I would hate.

Well, it would all depend on which week we played against him, if he played well 3 weeks earlier then we might be in strife... but if it were 1-2 weeks earlier that he played well I think we'd be alright!

 

[windyhill]

Re: 13. Andrew Lovett

Obviously this has been the kick up the arse he needs. Now what i would like from the boy is more than the three standout games and the five very good games he has given us over each season. From all reports his preferred destination was us so he didn`t want to go,show us how much Essendon means to you Andrew.