1st Test New Zealand v Australia Feb 29-Mar 4 0830hrs @ the Basin Reserve

[k31th]

I agree totally and am still mystified by the not out.

My understanding is that if you're hit (on the full, which he was on his toe) in line between the two wickets it's assumed that the ball will go on to hit the stumps since there is no deviation from hitting the pitch.
Is that not the case?
Ball tracking showed that Lyon's delivery was going to stay on its air trajectory and pass down the leg side, which is rubbish. It would have turned had it hit the pitch and was most likely going to hit the stumps.
I guess "most likely" doesn't cut it?

Yes, I thought same thing, if it's in the line of the 2 wickets.

It IS the case:

Leg before wicket Law | MCC

Official Leg before wicket Law. Read the statement of the Leg before wicket Law. Understand the rules of Leg before wicket Law with e-learning & animations.

www.lords.org

the pertinent part:

36.2.3 In assessing point 36.1.5, it is to be assumed that the path of the ball before interception would have continued after interception, irrespective of whether the ball might have pitched subsequently or not.

 

[CrowBloke]

It IS the case:

Leg before wicket Law | MCC

Official Leg before wicket Law. Read the statement of the Leg before wicket Law. Understand the rules of Leg before wicket Law with e-learning & animations.

www.lords.org

the pertinent part:

Ah ok, "the path of the ball before interception would have continued".
That's why ball-tracking showed it going down leg; that's the path of the ball before interception.

Thanks.

 

[CrowBloke]

Any suggestions on what we can do?
Hard to see any of the other options being better. Maybe Bancroft, maybe. But these are our six best bats at the moment.

+

They are. Unusual for nearly all of them to be out of form at once.

Yes, they are. No way Bancroft bats in front of any of them, when they are batting well.
Bancroft is out and will stay out for well-known reasons, reinforced after Smith put his hand up to open post-Warner.
The choice was Khawaja/Bancroft/Lab./Smith/Head/Marsh (no Green)
OR
Khawaja/Smith/Lab./Green/Head/Marsh and I can see why they went with the latter.
Cummins would have vetoed Bancroft anyway, and Cummins gets his way. ^nods to Langer^

After the squad for Pakistan was announced, McDonald said the Top 6 were considered to be our best 6 batsmen and Smith would be given the chance to make it as an opener with Green @ #4. Green, tick!
When one or two fail, the others usually cover for it.
BUT
Smith looks out-of-sorts even before he became opener; I hope it's a minor lapse and not the start of a prolonged decline. He's getting out in very un-Smith-like ways.
Khawaja --- dunno --- looks to me like he's reached a kind of exasperated breaking point especially after the ACB clamped down on what they deemed to be political statements. I'm a huge fan of Ussie who is one of the nicest, calmest, most balanced and peaceful men on the team but I reckon he's had enough. Today's stumping was a rush of blood I've never seen before and had "Stuff it!" all over it. I smell a retirement announcement after this series.
Labs is out-of-form; doesn't look like making runs at all. Happens to the best of them in the past, too. He'll be retained for the 2nd Kiwi Test, but another double-failure especially if he scratches around wasting balls for a few runs then he has to be in doubt for the home series vs India.
Green, as above, tick.
Head (MotM in WTC and ODI WC Final, remember --- he's a big occasion player, a match-winner)/Marsh/Carey could be a colossal 5/6/7 combo if two or more fire on top of a solid start then batting with any of the top 4 still in, eg Head/Labuschagne in the 2023 ODI WC Final.
I like that they have license to go hard for it, but I'd also like to see them bat to the wicket/situation at times even only with 5-10% more caution/restraint.

 

[4Seasons]

What are you on about?

Do you struggle with reading or comprehension?
Test cricket is sadly dead.
Very few people talk positive about the game. People are so bored by current games they would prefer to talk about the next games.
People are so bored by the on field action they actually need to comment on commentary.

 

[grumbleguts]

Do you struggle with reading or comprehension?
Test cricket is sadly dead.
Very few people talk positive about the game. People are so bored by current games they would prefer to talk about the next games.
People are so bored by the on field action they actually need to comment on commentary.

You poor thing. Sad really. Life must be so difficult for you. Do you have a handler?

 

[FreoRicci]

The ordinary batting has slowly crept up as a collective problem.
Labs isn’t flash but people forget Head. Apart from a century, he hasn’t done much else this summer.

Just have Head open with Smith at 3. Labs gets dropped

 

[revo333]

but people forget Head. Apart from a century, he hasn’t done much else this summer.

That's a "I don't give a ****" dismissal if ever I've seen one.

When you watch Cam Green bat at least you can tell he actually wants to be there.

Something really stinks about this team now.

 

[Freezin]

That's a "I don't give a *" dismissal if ever I've seen one.

When you watch Cam Green bat at least you can tell he actually wants to be there.

Something really stinks about this team now.

That has always been Head though....did it continuously for SA where he made so many 30's then got out to stupidity or complacency. When it comes off folk talk about it for months...regardless of what he does in between....only looks worse now because others aren't stepping up to paper over the brain fades.

 

[Around the Wicket]

Ah ok, "the path of the ball before interception would have continued".
That's why ball-tracking showed it going down leg; that's the path of the ball before interception.

Thanks.

100% people are confusing the law, it can't be angling down leg then take a right angle to hit the stumps, the path of the ball is the path it was taking when it hit the batsmen on the full which in the case was angling down leg.

 

[Around the Wicket]

Here I was thinking Cricket was a team sport. None of these bowlers have bad away records over now long careers.

They also have won nothing away over now long careers.

 

[Jamurp]

NZ all out under 250.

Kinda want them to get close though, big 4th innings chases are quality.

 

[aabp1978]

NZ all out under 250.

Kinda want them to get close though, big 4th innings chases are quality.

Hoping you are right - but these two look set, and bowling has been pretty pedestrian thus far…

 

[Jamurp]

Hoping you are right - but these two look set, and bowling has been pretty pedestrian thus far…

Ravindra and Mitchell have been involved in big partnerships before, they'd need to score the vast vast majority of these runs though, can't see it happening.

 

[Around the Wicket]

Mitchell looking sound in defence.

 

[aabp1978]

Ravindra and Mitchell have been involved in big partnerships before, they'd need to score the vast vast majority of these runs though, can't see it happening.

It is just the lack of any probing deliveries thus far..can easily see these two putting on another 50 here..then only 200 needed with 6 wickets left

 

[PAFCsince1870]

Game over.

 

[k31th]

lol Ravindra... that's a terrible attempt at a shot

 

[PAFCsince1870]

It is just the lack of any probing deliveries thus far..can easily see these two putting on another 50 here..then only 200 needed with 6 wickets left

Lol.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

you bloody ripper!!!

 

[FullyBigKPro]

Oh dear, thats a soft dismissal....

 

[The Passenger]

I like Ravindra (who doesn't) but that was an absolute gift.

 

[Jamurp]

Yeah that's done.

 

[Moonwatcher]

In James Blundell we trust

 

[CrowBloke]

Ravindra, crucial wicket!!

 

[aabp1978]

Ok that was a helpful wicket