Player Watch #2: Jacob van Rooyen – re-signed until 2029

[dazzledavey36]

 

[Demon 16]

Terrific news!

 

[schmuttt]

I really like him but do think our coaching for him and ball movement is still so bad. Why is he calling for every ball out the back

 

[Crusty Demon]

This kid has the potential to be a very good player. But he's gonna need a change of coaching staff for a chance at that tbh. Probably the only decent young key position prospect we have on the list. So it's a no brainer of a signing with Jeffe looking like a bust and Petty wanting out.

 

[TheBoss]

I am whelmed.

He is a promising young player but I feel like giving 4 more years on his current form is a mistake.

He has been giving me flashes of Brad Miller this season. Thrown around the ground to play roles that are beyond him. Poor decision maker. A bit of a sniper. A worse mark but much nicer kick at least.

I am glad he wants to stay as I think he can be a player with better development. But my expectations are cooling. I just can't see him making it as a #1 KPF in a good side. He seems more like the second banana that will kick a bag once or twice a year.

 

[Simon_Says]

So I'd suggest Petty is gone.

 

[booshboy]

So I'd suggest Petty is gone.

we only re-signed our most promising young player because we think another player is leaving?

 

[schmuttt]

So I'd suggest Petty is gone.

This makes zero sense? You think we'd refuse to sign JVR if Petty was leaving?

 

[KickLongTackleHard]

Very good signing. Promising player, West Coast and Freo would take him in a heartbeat.

 

[Crimson Azure]

Hasn’t shown enough to give him another 5 years.

 

[Demon 16]

Hasn’t shown enough to give him another 5 years.

Hes already contracted for 2025 so this gets him to the end of 2029. That’s also when he’s a free agent.

 

[mores]

Hes already contracted for 2025 so this gets him to the end of 2029. That’s also when he’s a free agent.

Thanks for that.

 

[Demon Attack]

Absolute no-brainer. There's a world where he is the only key forward on our list next year lol we would be mad not to extend him. I think people can forget how young he is, rough start to the year but the quality is there.

 

[Brock 'n' Roll]

Would have like to have seen 2-year extension, 4 years is nuts on current form, but I guess that is where we are at as an industry. Too scared to sign short term deals at the fear of losing them. Hope he starts to take some grabs soon it is an almost player in my opinion.

 

[Daemon]

Don't mind securing him on a longer term deal, I just hope we aren't paying through the nose for it.

 

[netslave]

Hopefully he can start clunking some marks and kicking some goals now his future is decided for a while at least.

 

[Toump Ass]

Get a kick you campaigner.

 

[Macka1203]

great signing, not sure why so many are off him after a couple quiet games

He’s only 21

 

[Squarky]

Hasn’t shown enough to give him another 5 years.

After 26 games, van Rooyen has had more scoring shots and kicked more goals than Buddy, Josh Kennedy, Jack Riewoldt and Charlie Curnow at the same stage. Only Tom Hawkins and Jesse Hogan are ahead of him.

He's down on marks vs the others, which surprised me a bit. Like most here, I'd love to see him take a few more both in F50 and around the ground.

Could be David Neitz, could be a bust. But to say he 'hasn't shown enough' just isn't based in fact.

Also, Jesse Hogan was an absolute freak at age 21. Heart you Jesse, wish you were still a Demon.

 

[Crimson Azure]

But to say he 'hasn't shown enough' just isn't based in fact.

Did you also check their age's when they had played 26 games? Franklin for example had just turned 19 when he played his 26th game, JVR was 21. That's two full years of development for JVR who played zero games in his first year while Franklin, as an 18yo played 20 games. In the year Buddy turned 21 he kicked 113.88 from 25 games.

I didn't check all those you've listed for all details but you've cherry picked a stat to make your point. What if I asked you to base it on the first season on an AFL list? To use Franklin as an example again, JVR had 0.0 from 0 games and Franklin had 21.13 from 20 games. Does 'he hasn't shown enough' argument carry weight now because he could even make it into the starting 22?

If we're going to use a stat like that all factors need to be taken into account, not just the ones that suit the point you're making.

Anyway, I'm not saying he's a dud but I personally would like to have seen more to have him secured until '29. At least it looks like the club has faith he'll be a gun.

 

[mrmonkey]

Pretty sure Franklin played in the backline in his early years as well.

 

[Squarky]

Did you also check their age's when they had played 26 games? Franklin for example had just turned 19 when he played his 26th game, JVR was 21. That's two full years of development for JVR who played zero games in his first year while Franklin, as an 18yo played 20 games. In the year Buddy turned 21 he kicked 113.88 from 25 games.

I didn't check all those you've listed for all details but you've cherry picked a stat to make your point. What if I asked you to base it on the first season on an AFL list? To use Franklin as an example again, JVR had 0.0 from 0 games and Franklin had 21.13 from 20 games. Does 'he hasn't shown enough' argument carry weight now because he could even make it into the starting 22?

If we're going to use a stat like that all factors need to be taken into account, not just the ones that suit the point you're making.

Good pickup - I hadn't considered the players' ages. No cherry picking here, just a quick and dirty comparison. Makes Buddy look pretty special, doesn't it?

If Rooey can be a Jack Riewoldt, we'd all be pretty happy I reckon.

 

[Topkent]

Good pickup - I hadn't considered the players' ages. No cherry picking here, just a quick and dirty comparison. Makes Buddy look pretty special, doesn't it?

If Rooey can be a Jack Riewoldt, we'd all be pretty happy I reckon.

Van Rooyen doesn't look like half the player Riewoldt was at ground level.

 

[Scythe94]

Did you also check their age's when they had played 26 games? Franklin for example had just turned 19 when he played his 26th game, JVR was 21. That's two full years of development for JVR who played zero games in his first year while Franklin, as an 18yo played 20 games. In the year Buddy turned 21 he kicked 113.88 from 25 games.

I didn't check all those you've listed for all details but you've cherry picked a stat to make your point. What if I asked you to base it on the first season on an AFL list? To use Franklin as an example again, JVR had 0.0 from 0 games and Franklin had 21.13 from 20 games. Does 'he hasn't shown enough' argument carry weight now because he could even make it into the starting 22?

If we're going to use a stat like that all factors need to be taken into account, not just the ones that suit the point you're making.

Anyway, I'm not saying he's a dud but I personally would like to have seen more to have him secured until '29. At least it looks like the club has faith he'll be a gun.

Fair point; however, I'd say the truth lies somewhere in the middle, considering JVR has played zero games as a 21-year-old (turned 21 on Tuesday).

 

[netslave]

I think he's done pretty well, most big young forwards would struggle in our forward line, he goes up against 10 people whenever it's skied into our F50 and with no clear gameplan up there I'm surprised he's not pulling his hair out each week.