List Mgmt. 2009 Drafts

["The Roar Is Back"]

Richmond picks( not one left )
8 . Robin Nahas
20. Danny Myer
24. David Gourdis
39. Andrew Browne
53. Alroy Gilligan
67. pass

Others who were taken in the 2009 rookie draft after pick 8.
13. Zac Dawson.
19. Matt de boer
25. Luke Delaney
27. Jarryd Blair
29. Tom Simpkin
30. Liam Picken
35. Daniel Stewart
47. Luke Bruest
48. Clancee Pearce
57. Mike PYke ( international rookie)
69. Lachlan Keefe
74. Greg Broughton
76. Sam Jacobs
81. Mathew Suckling

 

[Lsta062]

Richmond picks( not one left )
8 . Robin Nahas
20. Danny Myer
24. David Gourdis
39. Andrew Browne
53. Alroy Gilligan
67. pass

Others who were taken in the 2009 rookie draft after pick 8.
13. Zac Dawson.
19. Matt de boer
25. Luke Delaney
27. Jarryd Blair
29. Tom Simpkin
30. Liam Picken
35. Daniel Stewart
47. Luke Bruest
48. Clancee Pearce
57. Mike PYke ( international rookie)
69. Lachlan Keefe
74. Greg Broughton
76. Sam Jacobs
81. Mathew Suckling

Wow, we seemed to have missed everything after our first pick. We could have been Hawthorn :O

 

[Underarm]

It's the rookie draft, so what? Some years are a bust...

 

[Ancient Tiger]

If we picked any of those guys listed, there is no guarantee that they would be the players they are today. Some players need to be surrounded by good players to bring out their best.
As for Jacobs, a team picked him then thought he was not good and traded him.

Hindsight has 20/20 vision.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

It's the rookie draft, so what? Some years are a bust...

Can you give some insight as to when we had a hit ?

 

[Ancient Tiger]

Can you give some insight as to when we had a hit ?

Miles?

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Miles?

One pick in 5 years ain't going to see you rise to a flag.
2008 national draft
Richmond took :
8 Vickery
26 Post
58 Hisplop
70 pass
Others after our first
9. Zeibell
10. Phil Davis
11. Sidebottom
12. Tom Lynch
15. Mitc Brown
16. Schoenmakers
21. Ballantyne
22. Jackson Trnegrove
23. Zaharakis
24. SUban
25. Redden
27. Sam Wright
28. Shaun McKernan
29. Dayne Beams
30. Hannebery
31. Jordan Roughhead
32. liam Jones
37. Zac Clarke
38. Broadbent
39. Steven Motlop
40. Thebrainstrust Mitch Robinson
41. todd Bandfield
43. Liam Anthony
44. Rory Sloane
47. Rhys Stanley
49. Taylor hunt
53. Micheal Walters
54. redden
63. Lowden
67. slattery
75. Savage
83. Begley

In the national draft in 2009 .
Richmond took :
3. Martin
19. Griffiths
35. Astbury
44. Dea
51. Troy Taylor
67. Jeromey webberyly
71. Ben NAson
89. Nahas ( rookie upgrade )
94. Browne ( rookie upgrade)
others of note after our first pick
5. Cunnington
6. Rohan
8. Butcher
9. Moore
10. Melsham
13. Daniel Talia
14. Lewis Jetta
17. Menzel
20. Fyfe
21. Bastinac
23. Koby Stevens
24. Carlisle
25 . Aaron Black
26. Colyer
28. Duncan
34. Gawn
38. Sam Reid
39. Grimley
40. Christensen
42. Vardy
46. Sratton
55. Dennis-Lane
62. Ben Sinclair
69. Taylor Duryea
75. Josh Thomas

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Not suprisingly , Hawthorn , Freo, Sydney and Port got a lot of selections right and have a lot of players from these 3 drafts in their best 22.
We on the other hand, despite predominately having earlier picks have 2 arguable 3.

 

[sante]

Miles?

He's overrated. GWS gave him up because he was their worst midfielder

 

[The Rusty Trombone]

If we picked any of those guys listed, there is no guarantee that they would be the players they are today. Some players need to be surrounded by good players to bring out their best.
As for Jacobs, a team picked him then thought he was not good and traded him.

Hindsight has 20/20 vision.

Jacobs was wanted at Carlton he just wanted out of there because they are terrible tankers. He was the best player in there finals campaign that year . They just had all their money spent on Kruezer Warncock ans Hampson at the time . The idiots lost the best ruckman out of the 4 on their list. In fairness they did manage to off load Hampson to us a couple of years later for a second round draft pick so they are not totally stupid

 

[richo's dodgy hammy]

I watched that Alroy Gilligan last week play in my local league how he made it on to an A.F.L list had me shaking my head.

 

[Ancient Tiger]

We all know our recruiting has been shyte.

Not sure what you are pointing out. We've been down this road just a few trillion times...

I do hold out hope for this years draftees though. First time we've invested in youth for a while without recycled rubbish. Feel for poor Drummond though.

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

One pick in 5 years ain't going to see you rise to a flag.
2008 national draft
Richmond took :
8 Vickery
26 Post
58 Hisplop
70 pass
Others after our first
9. Zeibell
10. Phil Davis
11. Sidebottom
12. Tom Lynch
15. Mitc Brown
16. Schoenmakers
21. Ballantyne
22. Jackson Trnegrove
23. Zaharakis
24. SUban
25. Redden
27. Sam Wright
28. Shaun McKernan
29. Dayne Beams
30. Hannebery
31. Jordan Roughhead
32. liam Jones
37. Zac Clarke
38. Broadbent
39. Steven Motlop
40. Thebrainstrust Mitch Robinson
41. todd Bandfield
43. Liam Anthony
44. Rory Sloane
47. Rhys Stanley
49. Taylor hunt
53. Micheal Walters
54. redden
63. Lowden
67. slattery
75. Savage
83. Begley

In the national draft in 2009 .
Richmond took :
3. Martin
19. Griffiths
35. Astbury
44. Dea
51. Troy Taylor
67. Jeromey webberyly
71. Ben NAson
89. Nahas ( rookie upgrade )
94. Browne ( rookie upgrade)
others of note after our first pick
5. Cunnington
6. Rohan
8. Butcher
9. Moore
10. Melsham
13. Daniel Talia
14. Lewis Jetta
17. Menzel
20. Fyfe
21. Bastinac
23. Koby Stevens
24. Carlisle
25 . Aaron Black
26. Colyer
28. Duncan
34. Gawn
38. Sam Reid
39. Grimley
40. Christensen
42. Vardy
46. Sratton
55. Dennis-Lane
62. Ben Sinclair
69. Taylor Duryea
75. Josh Thomas

What are you trying to say here? That we should've taken Gary Rohan instead of Dustin Martin? Should've taken Koby Stevens instead Ben Griffiths? Should've taken Liam Jones instead of anyone?

You've listed a lot of spuds in those lists.

 

[TigerImposter]

I watched that Alroy Gilligan last week play in my local league how he made it on to an A.F.L list had me shaking my head.

nothing has changed then.We were saying that at Coburg

 

[TigerImposter]

Good drafting is selecting the best from what is left and poor drafting is not selecting the best from what's left
Casino Jackson and co has had years to master this and have only got the obvious ones right.

just looking at our first picks
Recently BEllis conca lennon Cellis Flossy in no order are all iffy ATM.
Bellis could be a star ,but still plays scared and ducks his head a lot. Glorified version of Houli
Flossy looks slow and could just be a good ordinary footballer .no world beater
Conca enough said
Cellis and Lennon still early but looks great.

All of the above players could turn out to be genuine top liners as i don't know if its the current coaching and fitness dept
who are not up to it bc now Martin Cotchin and jack look ordinary as soon as the heat comes on

 

[SumTingWong]

Good drafting is selecting the best from what is left and poor drafting is not selecting the best from what's left
Casino Jackson and co has had years to master this and have only got the obvious ones right.

just looking at our first picks
Recently BEllis conca lennon Cellis Flossy in no order are all iffy ATM.
Bellis could be a star ,but still plays scared and ducks his head a lot. Glorified version of Houli
Flossy looks slow and could just be a good ordinary footballer .no world beater
Conca enough said
Cellis and Lennon still early but looks great.

All of the above players could turn out to be genuine top liners as i don't know if its the current coaching and fitness dept
who are not up to it bc now Martin Cotchin and jack look ordinary as soon as the heat comes on

Glad somebody else has noticed this. So disappointing for such a big boy.

 

[TigerImposter]

Glad somebody else has noticed this. So disappointing for such a big boy.

wasnt doing it as a kid ,but the last couple of years its been getting worse

 

[Gentlemen]

Alroy Gilligan sounds like he should be a pirate

 

[Ancient Tiger]

Alroy Gilligan sounds like he should be a pirate

Or marooned on an island!

 

[Lsta062]

Honestly, I don't think Richmond could have missed as much as it looks. IMO, the problem lies with player development. Our team cannot develop players like other teams can.

Yes, they were bad at recruiting players, but it is highly unlikely that Richmond could have been so crap to the extent that they missed so much talent only to pick up ordinary players that are now delisted.

Even now, we are seeing quality players go backwards that could have been top 5 players in the league if they were developed in another side.

This notion is backed up by ex players (who were ordinary at Richmond) lighting up the stage at other clubs, such as Jay Shulz at Port Adelaide and Matt White (who was the super sub at Richmond but now gets regular gigs at a good side like Port).

Maybe it isn't our recruiters who need to be looked at. Maybe it is those who are involved in the development of the players who need to be sorted out

 

[TigerImposter]

Honestly, I don't think Richmond could have missed as much as it looks. IMO, the problem lies with player development. Our team cannot develop players like other teams can.

Yes, they were bad at recruiting players, but it is highly unlikely that Richmond could have been so crap to the extent that they missed so much talent only to pick up ordinary players that are now delisted.

Even now, we are seeing quality players go backwards that could have been top 5 players in the league if they were developed in another side.

This notion is backed up by ex players (who were ordinary at Richmond) lighting up the stage at other clubs, such as Jay Shulz at Port Adelaide and Matt White (who was the super sub at Richmond but now gets regular gigs at a good side like Port).

Maybe it isn't our recruiters who need to be looked at. Maybe it is those who are involved in the development of the players who need to be sorted out

Bingo you win POTD

 

[TJTIGER]

Alroy Gilligan sounds like he should be a pirate

Arrrrrgh me harties !!!!!!

 

[TJTIGER]

Or marooned on an island!

With someone called the professor, maryanne, the movie star ??

 

[Bojangles17]

Richmond picks( not one left )
8 . Robin Nahas
20. Danny Myer
24. David Gourdis
39. Andrew Browne
53. Alroy Gilligan
67. pass

Others who were taken in the 2009 rookie draft after pick 8.
13. Zac Dawson.
19. Matt de boer
25. Luke Delaney
27. Jarryd Blair
29. Tom Simpkin
30. Liam Picken
35. Daniel Stewart
47. Luke Bruest
48. Clancee Pearce
57. Mike PYke ( international rookie)
69. Lachlan Keefe
74. Greg Broughton
76. Sam Jacobs
81. Mathew Suckling

How have we gone in years since just to understand the direction of trend line , where we're miles, Thomas and petterd selected and games played

 

[tugga]

Our drafting hasn't been great, but there really only one pick that makes me angry (Conca over heppell). The rest I can forgive as it's a tough caper.