List Mgmt. 2011 National Draft

[Cats Eye]

I am glad that we are getting Bews under f/s, but just a question, if on monday another club (lets say Carlton for eg.) nominates a first rounder for him and the gfc dont think he is worth that, can we simply pull out of getting him and then Carlton would then have to take him with their first rounder. Is that how it works?

 

[krisholio14]

I am glad that we are getting Bews under f/s, but just a question, if on monday another club (lets say Carlton for eg.) nominates a first rounder for him and the gfc dont think he is worth that, can we simply pull out of getting him and then Carlton would then have to take him with their first rounder. Is that how it works?

Yes, otherwise you'd have clubs forcing you to use a first rounder any time you wanted to take a F/S.

I would also just like to say that I don't think any of our rookies have done enough to be elevated this year.

 

[GHS33]

GWS has special rights to trade access for up to four players, including most certainly O'Meara, born between January and April, 1994.
The clubs who offer the best bids will be assigned a pick to use on one of the four players in a one-off mini draft, to be held on Monday, October 17.
A batch of clubs, including Geelong, are in the mix for the second pick, which is tipped to be used on North Ballarat onballer Brad Crouch.

Herald Sun Article

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Yes, otherwise you'd have clubs forcing you to use a first rounder any time you wanted to take a F/S.

I would also just like to say that I don't think any of our rookies have done enough to be elevated this year.

What now? Simpkin's won the B & F and had his third outstanding year in a row, Bathie's made significant progress, Walker has been very good for a third year tall, I think all could legitimately lay claims to an elevation, and at least one will be with the picks we have.

I am glad that we are getting Bews under f/s, but just a question, if on monday another club (lets say Carlton for eg.) nominates a first rounder for him and the gfc dont think he is worth that, can we simply pull out of getting him and then Carlton would then have to take him with their first rounder. Is that how it works?

Yes that is correct. If another club bids a first rounder and we don't match that bid, he goes there. I doubt anyone will bid a first rounder on him though, I reckon we'll only be giving up our 2nd at worst.

 

[Greg Brady]

Herald Sun Article

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[thejester]

Top 10 Combine Results.

Some observations out of that:

- Elliot Yeo seems to me to be the standout: has complimented his athletic results with equal second in the kicking test, at 87%.

- Jed with top 10 finishes in the 30m Repeat Sprint and the Agility Run.

- Brandon Ellis, who will probably be around for us at our first pick, was top 10 in kicking and endurance. Pretty handy combination.

- Mitch Grigg MIA. Not that he was being talked up as an out-and-out superstar but failure to make an impact outside the athletic side won't help his chances.

 

[krisholio14]

What now? Simpkin's won the B & F and had his third outstanding year in a row, Bathie's made significant progress, Walker has been very good for a third year tall, I think all could legitimately lay claims to an elevation, and at least one will be with the picks we have.

Why is it that we have to automatically promote someone? Walker and Bathie aren't ready yet, and i'm not convinced Simpkin is worth it.

If we are going to take Bews with our last pick, i'd rather have four swings at the draft. There will be plenty of good solid footballers available out of this one.

 

[krisholio14]

Top 10 Combine Results.

Some observations out of that:

- Elliot Yeo seems to me to be the standout: has complimented his athletic results with equal second in the kicking test, at 87%.

- Jed with top 10 finishes in the 30m Repeat Sprint and the Agility Run.

- Brandon Ellis, who will probably be around for us at our first pick, was top 10 in kicking and endurance. Pretty handy combination.

- Mitch Grigg MIA. Not that he was being talked up as an out-and-out superstar but failure to make an impact outside the athletic side won't help his chances.

Was at Norwood a few weeks back and a few of the locals there reckon he's overrated. Was playing in their ressies at the time.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Why is it that we have to automatically promote someone? Walker and Bathie aren't ready yet, and i'm not convinced Simpkin is worth it.

If we are going to take Bews with our last pick, i'd rather have four swings at the draft. There will be plenty of good solid footballers available out of this one.

Because we are going to have at least 5 senior list spots to fill and our 5th pick will be past 100.

I like draft picks as much as anyone, but under that scenario it's a no brainer to elevate at least one rookie, and that is exactly what will happen.

 

[krisholio14]

Because we are going to have at least 5 senior list spots to fill and our 5th pick will be past 100.

I like draft picks as much as anyone, but under that scenario it's a no brainer to elevate at least one rookie, and that is exactly what will happen.

We will use the fifth pick on Bews.

Unless Wellsy is adamant one of our rookies is better than someone we could pick up with our 4th pick, we won't be elevating anyone.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Top 10 Combine Results.

Some observations out of that:

- Elliot Yeo seems to me to be the standout: has complimented his athletic results with equal second in the kicking test, at 87%.

- Jed with top 10 finishes in the 30m Repeat Sprint and the Agility Run.

- Brandon Ellis, who will probably be around for us at our first pick, was top 10 in kicking and endurance. Pretty handy combination.

- Mitch Grigg MIA. Not that he was being talked up as an out-and-out superstar but failure to make an impact outside the athletic side won't help his chances.

Agree, Yeo has really put himself on the radar. Should consider.

I also think Devon Smith and Nelson, not that they weren't rated by recruiters before, have done themselves good with their results.

Grigg I still think will be drafted, blokes who can win the ball and kick like he does tend to, but I wonder if he could slide a long way because his testing hasn't been great.

Glad to see Jed testing well although hopefully it doesn't push his price up too much.

Just quietly, gee Shannon Taylor has shown a lot of athletic promise this week. I wonder if he's becoming a legitimate mini draft option (particularly for a WA club) even though GWS will probably only use 2 picks this year. Pity GWS will keep Saad too.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

We will use the fifth pick on Bews.

Unless Wellsy is adamant one of our rookies is better than someone we could pick up with our 4th pick, we won't be elevating anyone.

I'm willing to bet both that Bews will cost more than that, and that we will definitely elevate at least one. We'll see if I'm right.

 

[krisholio14]

I'm willing to bet both that Bews will cost more than that, and that we will definitely elevate at least one. We'll see if I'm right.

If anyone else bids on Bews, then we probably will elevate someone.

If someone else bids, it's only so they can force us to use a higher pick.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

If anyone else bids on Bews, then we probably will elevate someone.

If someone else bids, it's only so they can force us to use a higher pick.

Yep, that's it.

 

[you pick one]

Yep, that's it.

I can't see another club up setting the Apple cart for Bews,were not playing for sheep stations here.Just a raw kid starting on the journey.

I'd hate to see Geelong playing the spoiler on F/S selections in the future.

 

[Turbocat]

As I posted last week , I like the look of Yeo.

Now , have not really read much on this kid. Is he this years Menzel and Duncan? Yeo seems to have the a similar sort or skill set , left and right foot , 188cm , has a nice little shimmy....

http://www.afl.com.au/video/tabid/76/contentid/390684/elliott+yeo+-+2011+highlights/default.aspx

With the testing results , something tells me the Cats out the bag , so to speak.
Whether we look to add another kid similar to Menz or not with our first pick is debatable. The thing I will say is every year kids climb and slide , and there will be a few kids who will look good gets by the time our r1 pick rolls around.

 

[bobbycatsfanme]

As I posted last week , I like the look of Yeo.



With the testing results , something tells me the Cats out the bag , so to speak.
Whether we look to add another kid similar to Menz or not with our first pick is debatable. The thing I will say is every year kids climb and slide , and there will be a few kids who will look good gets by the time our r1 pick rolls around.

reminded me a hell of alot like a young Luke Hodge with his posture & running style pretty hard to judge them from short videos like this but seems to really go in hard for the footy as well.

 

[krisholio14]

I can't see another club up setting the Apple cart for Bews,were not playing for sheep stations here.Just a raw kid starting on the journey.

I'd hate to see Geelong playing the spoiler on F/S selections in the future.

It's not really a spoiler.

Nobody else has looked at him thus far, and even though he tested ok in some areas I don't see that changing.

But are other clubs going to let us pick him up with a fifth rounder on a free swing?

I wouldn't rule that out, but I can also see a scenario where a club uses their fourth round pick and we take it.

 

[Turbocat]

It's not really a spoiler.

Nobody else has looked at him thus far, and even though he tested ok in some areas I don't see that changing.

But are other clubs going to let us pick him up with a fifth rounder on a free swing?

I wouldn't rule that out, but I can also see a scenario where a club uses their fourth round pick and we take it.

I agree. Im not really sure that a player thats not an obvious pick will be used as spit in our eye. Any club that names him must be prepared to take him with that pick. Im sure its why the Hawks have not gone down that path with Curran because they may feel other clubs may rate him higher than they do.

The truth is Bews is probably somewhere in the 50-100. He is draftable but not overly outstanding. StKilda or someone like that may use a P3 on him assuming that we would call his name r3 or later ( they hate FS ) but only if they don't see a better player in their opinion.

 

[Just do something]

Just reading on AFL.com about Daniel Markworth. Looks a likely type wouldn't know a thing about him but at the end he said his biggest dream would be to go to Geelong as the whole family are fans. He also says he likes how we develop the young kids.


Any ideas on what style of player he is.?

 

[AM]

Just reading on AFL.com about Daniel Markworth. Looks a likely type wouldn't know a thing about him but at the end he said his biggest dream would be to go to Geelong as the whole family are fans. He also says he likes how we develop the young kids.


Any ideas on what style of player he is.?

There's a brief preview of Markworth and other potential draftees here

 

[Scarlett Fever]

Can some one please clarify for me the exact worth of our remaining Ablett compo pick. I understand that it is worth a first round pick directly after our first round pick but what happens if we trade it? Is it worth a first rounder after our first pick or is it worth a first rounder after the new owners first round pick?????

 

[year of the cat]

Had a look at some of the videos tonight and was a bit underwhelmed by what I saw of the taller prospects in this draft. For me Boseley is still probably the most impressive of the defenders that played in the carnival, albeit that he has a lot of work to do to have an AFL ready body.

Of the others, Talia's kicking action is very suspect. Tomlinson doesn't excite me at all. I was quite impressed with Lockyer intensity and composure but he is undersized to play KP.

The kid that did impress me on video was Paine. I reckon he could be moulded into a KPD. Nice hands and competitive at ground level. I would be pretty happy if he came our way.

The rider to all of this of course is that it is terribly unfair to rate a kid from watching up to 2 minutes of video but there are some qualities that can be pretty quickly established I reckon.

 

[donbooger]

It's not really a spoiler.

Nobody else has looked at him thus far, and even though he tested ok in some areas I don't see that changing.

But are other clubs going to let us pick him up with a fifth rounder on a free swing?

I wouldn't rule that out, but I can also see a scenario where a club uses their fourth round pick and we take it.

I am not convinced that kind of thing happens.

Firstly they are calling a bluff that could back fire badly when they end up with a player they do not want.

Secondly clubs have enough to think about in the draft without worrying about one team in eighteen picking up a kid a little earlier.

If a club wants Bews early then they must think he is good enough to have or trust our judgement and have no one left they want.

 

[krisholio14]

I am not convinced that kind of thing happens.

Firstly they are calling a bluff that could back fire badly when they end up with a player they do not want.

Secondly clubs have enough to think about in the draft without worrying about one team in eighteen picking up a kid a little earlier.

If a club wants Bews early then they must think he is good enough to have or trust our judgement and have no one left they want.

You're missing the point.

It's not about playing funny buggers.

There could well be a club that isn't going to let us do as we please at the draft, which is what will happen if no one bids on Bews.

They won't cut off their nose to spite their face, but they may not let us add him for basically nothing.