2012 BMW Caulfield Cup

[sethlad]

Field is out,barrier draw 11am tomorrow
http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/Racing/race.aspx?meet_code=845954&race_code=5027025

seth

 

[KardiniaPark]

How on earth does that field beat Americain and Dunaden?

 

[iluvparis]

Weight and luck in running.

 

[sethlad]

Tab have Gatewood who is 2nd emg @$8
Imagine what price he'd be if he was in the field.....

seth

 

[Burgundy]

Tab have Gatewood who is 2nd emg @$8
Imagine what price he'd be if he was in the field.....

seth

$8

 

[sethlad]

$8

yeh nah

seth

 

[Burgundy]

yeh nah

seth

Um yeah

It makes no difference if they are an emergency or not, its not all in betting.

 

[sethlad]

Um yeah
It makes no difference if they are an emergency or not, its not all in betting.

Youre funny,thanks for the explanation though,very helpful

seth

 

[Burgundy]

Youre funny,thanks for the explanation though,very helpful

seth

Why would you think he would be shorter odds?

 

[sethlad]

Why would you think he would be shorter odds?

If you take the $8 & there's 2 scratchings,there would be deductions
Imagine if the fave was scratched?
Id want $20 about him getting in the race as 2nd emg,let alone winning it so the $5 he'll be after scratchings looks a tad light

seth

 

[KardiniaPark]

He's going to be awfully short at Geelong if he's $8 there.

 

[sethlad]

He's going to be awfully short at Geelong if he's $8 there.

Probably more internationals at Geelong in a smaller field although a couple may not be
completely flogged as theyre already in the MC field

seth

 

[Look2Me4Guidance]

Lights of Heaven looks great value to me. $5.40 the place. Not sure I can ignore it.

 

[Burgundy]

You back any runner now and the fave is scratched and you get hit with big deductions. If he doesnt start then you get your money back regardless. Im not saying he is good value to back, im saying the bookies factor him in as if he is in the race when framing their market

 

[sethlad]

You back any runner now and the fave is scratched and you get hit with big deductions. If he doesnt start then you get your money back regardless. Im not saying he is good value to back, im saying the bookies factor him in as if he is in the race when framing their market

Ok Ill remember that,you've been very helpful to us new punters.
lets talk about the race now

seth

 

[Look2Me4Guidance]

You back any runner now and the fave is scratched and you get hit with big deductions. If he doesnt start then you get your money back regardless. Im not saying he is good value to back, im saying the bookies factor him in as if he is in the race when framing their market

Burgundy's Best.

 

[half_back_flank]

I can't look past that HK Vase win.

Still hoping a miracle happens and Gatewood gets in though.

 

[mayhem]

How on earth does that field beat Americain and Dunaden?

I agree, def both in the trifecta. Hope for a bit of a long shot to sneak in for value.

 

[sethlad]

Ok so of the internationals im not sure Americain & Dunaden are here for this.
Jakkalberry gets his best chance here IMO & OQFP will be on speed & suited.
Dont wanna back Winchester or Sanagas & doubt Voila Ici's ability to lead & win.
The one I cant line up is Sneak A Peek as last 2 races have been unsuitable

seth

 

[iluvparis]

Have never been a real Jakkalberry fan for mine - have not been impressed with his runs that much and as a general rull of thumb I usually put a line through the horses that come via North America (i.e. Cima de Triomphe in the past).

Think there is that where there is smoke there is fire feel about Dunaden - and you don't have to go back too far to see a defending Melbourne Cup champ get up.

 

[Look2Me4Guidance]

Ok so of the internationals im not sure Americain & Dunaden are here for this.
Jakkalberry gets his best chance here IMO & OQFP will be on speed & suited.
Dont wanna back Winchester or Sanagas & doubt Voila Ici's ability to lead & win.
The one I cant line up is Sneak A Peek as last 2 races have been unsuitable

seth

Boss on helps Sneak.

Moody says its work is the best of his horses.

 

[Rooster Cogburn]

Just to clarify, if Dunaden or Americain do win here, they will get a penalty for the Cup?

 

[iluvparis]

Correct

 

[sethlad]

Just to clarify, if Dunaden or Americain do win here, they will get a penalty for the Cup?

They are eligible for a penalty,when Northerly won here the penalty stopped him going to Flemington

seth

 

[sethlad]

Boss on helps Sneak.
Moody says its work is the best of his horses.

No line on the Italian form but he did beat Jakkalberry & Voila Ici over there so hard to dismiss.
They backed him as if he was unbeatable 1st up so he must be working well

seth