2013 Coleman Medal

[mufassa]

Hurley smokey

There is a good reason he is $151 - the same odds as Chris Dawes.

 

[camiam]

Sooky Riewoldt or really sooky Riewoldt ?

the good riewoldt

 

[mufassa]

I think you mean best CHF.

No he is the best forward since Carey - which includes all FF and CHF.

 

[MarcusP2]

But why would you take out Buddy's best game?

Because the point was about consistency, and he kicked nearly 20% of his goals in 1 game.

 

[Hodge is God]

Jack better than Nick?

 

[mufassa]

Because the point was about consistency, and he kicked nearly 20% of his goals in 1 game.

Then shouldn't you take our Walkers best game? Also I am sure Buddy would have loved to played against the Suns, GWS and Port twice.

 

[Hodge is God]

Then shouldn't you take our Walkers best game? Also I am sure Buddy would have loved to played against the Suns, GWS and Port twice.

He didn't get to play the Suns, played half the game against the Giants and only played the Power once out of two.

So he played 1x Power, 1/2x Giants 0x Gold Coast

 

[boncer34]

No he is the best forward since Carey - which includes all FF and CHF.

Nice to see the Essendon hatred shining through in all topics.

 

[MarcusP2]

Then shouldn't you take our Walkers best game? Also I am sure Buddy would have loved to played against the Suns, GWS and Port twice.

Walker's best game was 6 goals. Average of 3.2gpg if excluded.


From the North game on Buddy was rock solid dependable for 4 goals every week anyway. It was his (relatively) poor start to the season that was inconsistent.

 

[mufassa]

Nice to see the Essendon hatred shining through in all topics.

I think it has more to do with those rose coloured glasses you have on. Franklin has gone past Lloyd.

 

[Groupie_]

Hurley smokey

Don't think he'll ever win a Coleman.

 

[boncer34]

I think it has more to do with those rose coloured glasses you have on. Franklin has gone past Lloyd.

At age 25.

Franklin: 520 goals in 161 games at 3.2 goals.
Lloyd: 599 goals in 165 games at 3.6 goals

Franklin: 859 marks in 161 games at 5.3 marks
Lloyd: 1071 marks in 165 games at 6.49 marks

Franklin: 1 ton
Lloyd: 2 tons

Franklin: 2 Coleman
Lloyd: 3 Coleman

Franklin: Twice over 80 goals
Lloyd: Four times over 80 goals.



Yeah your right he's just zoomed on past him.

 

[boncer34]

Don't think he'll ever win a Coleman.

Agree 100%.

 

[tazhawk]

Buddy plays at least 20 games then Buddy wins the Coleman, it really is that simple.

The rest are playing for 2nd place.

 

[mufassa]

At age 25.

Franklin: 520 goals in 161 games at 3.2 goals.
Lloyd: 599 goals in 165 games at 3.6 goals

Franklin: 859 marks in 161 games at 5.3 marks
Lloyd: 1071 marks in 165 games at 6.49 marks

Franklin: 1 ton
Lloyd: 2 tons

Franklin: 2 Coleman
Lloyd: 3 Coleman

Franklin: Twice over 80 goals
Lloyd: Four times over 80 goals.



Yeah your right he's just zoomed on past him.

Gee we have another stat man. Lloyd kicked more goals than Carey - Lloyd must be better than Carey derp derp derp.

Can you name the year that Lloyd was ever in the best 2 players in the AFL? He was never even the best player at his own club let alone the AFL.

Franklin or Ablett are the only 2 players you could consider for the best player in the AFL. I thought this debate was over a while ago but you keep clinging onto those stats mighty man.

 

[Hodge is God]

At age 25.

Franklin: 520 goals in 161 games at 3.2 goals.
Lloyd: 599 goals in 165 games at 3.6 goals

Franklin: 859 marks in 161 games at 5.3 marks
Lloyd: 1071 marks in 165 games at 6.49 marks

Franklin: 1 ton
Lloyd: 2 tons

Franklin: 2 Coleman
Lloyd: 3 Coleman

Franklin: Twice over 80 goals
Lloyd: Four times over 80 goals.



Yeah your right he's just zoomed on past him.

Both of Lloyd's tons were in the finals.
Buddy's was in the regular season.

 

[boncer34]

Gee we have another stat man. Lloyd kicked more goals than Carey - Lloyd must be better than Carey derp derp derp.

Can you name the year that Lloyd was ever in the best 2 players in the AFL? He was never even the best player at his own club let alone the AFL.

Franklin or Ablett are the only 2 players you could consider for the best player in the AFL. I thought this debate was over a while ago but you keep clinging onto those stats mighty man.

Nope Carey played CHF and was vastly better then Lloyd.

No argument.

But Franklin is not miles better then Lloyd. As a forward he is hugely overrated for what he provides.

 

[boncer34]

Both of Lloyd's tons were in the finals.
Buddy's was in the regular season.

Who holds the record for most goals in a season?

And while we're at it. Lloyd kicked 105 goals in 21 games in 2001. He would've smashed through the ton if he'd played every game with games to spare.

Buddy can only dream of averaging 5 goals a game.

 

[Hodge is God]

Nope Carey played CHF and was vastly better then Lloyd.

No argument.

But Franklin is not miles better then Lloyd. As a forward he is hugely overrated for what he provides.

Not really.
Buddy was leading, if not one of top, in goal assists this season before his injury.
He also provides huge pressure in the forward half and can play outside the forward using his great endurance and work rate to his advantage.

 

[boncer34]

Not really.
Buddy was leading, if not one of top, in goal assists this season before his injury.
He also provides huge pressure in the forward half and can play outside the forward using his great endurance and work rate to his advantage.

Whats outside the forward line got to do with being a better forward? As a push up midfielder Buddy is better the Lloyd. I'm not arguing that. He's got a huge tank and could run Lloyd off his legs.

I'm debating the claim by a bitter North fan that Buddy is a better forward then Lloyd.

 

[mufassa]

Nope Carey played CHF and was vastly better then Lloyd.

No argument.

But Franklin is not miles better then Lloyd. As a forward he is hugely overrated for what he provides.

Where does Buddy play? He does not sit in the goal square as a lead up FF.

What year was Lloyd in the best 2 players in the AFL? It never happened because Franklin players the game at a higher level. If I had a pick of 2 players to join the Roos in 2013 it is Ablett and Buddy - with Pendles getting some consideration.

 

[Groupie_]

Buddy plays at least 20 games then Buddy wins the Coleman, it really is that simple.

The rest are playing for 2nd place.

And if Jack has a full Pre season and gets back to his 2010 form he will kick 70-90 goals.

 

[Hodge is God]

Who holds the record for most goals in a season?

And while we're at it. Lloyd kicked 105 goals in 21 games in 2001. He would've smashed through the ton if he'd played every game with games to spare.

Buddy can only dream of averaging 5 goals a game.

Buddy kicked 102 goals over 22 games, 113 over 25 games.
Plus 88 behinds.

Thats's 4 and a half goals a game. 3 and a half behinds a game.

 

[mufassa]

Whats outside the forward line got to do with being a better forward? As a push up midfielder Buddy is better the Lloyd. I'm not arguing that. He's got a huge tank and could run Lloyd off his legs.

I'm debating the claim by a bitter North fan that Buddy is a better forward then Lloyd.

Put a poll up and will see if I am bitter or you have no idea.

 

[Groupie_]

Buddy >>>>>>>>>> Lloyd