MRP / Trib. 2013 MRP/ Tribunal News & Reports (keep it all in here)

[HARKER]

If you look at the replay in real time you can clearly see he gets airborne to avoid roughy and the contact to henderson was post that action. Someone just mentioned about playing contact sport and said that he meant it. Thats just hilarious

No, I'm being objective.

I didn't see any issues with Murphy as much as that hurt but thought Hodge may have been in trouble for his bump on Henderson.
Had have that same incident been Henderson bumping Hodge, I would have been nervous for the verdict but ultimately relieved for the result.

 

[TheFourPillars]

No, I'm being objective.

I didn't see any issues with Murphy as much as that hurt but thought Hodge may have been in trouble for his bump on Henderson.
Had have that same incident been Henderson bumping Hodge, I would have been nervous for the verdict but ultimately relieved for the result.

I agree if he got of the ground with the intent to bump henderson he would have been in trouble. That was not his intent. I think that was what was argued.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

My biggest problem with Hodge getting off is the inconsistency from the MRP. Week after week I am astounded by their decisions.

 

[mike ockerts]

I'm just speechless seriously, It's official, I have no ****ing idea how the MRP/tribunal works.
The problem with this verdict is, something very very similar will happen in the next couple of weeks, and I'll bet my left spud they'll get weeks.

 

[MinerBoy]

Maybe have a good read of the board.

I've been following footy for over 30 years, it's changed and the way it's played today isn't the way Hodge played. Lost respect.

Thanks for allowing me to type this again .

Typing it twice has just allowed you to prove you're wrong twice.

There are SOME Carlton supporters that are having hysterical hissy fits and there are many more reasoned Carlton supporters who view the incident rationally and applaud the way both players competed for the ball. Then there is the almost universal opinion of commentators and nuetrals who have have absolutely put their admiration for Hodge out there and the opinion that he had nothing to answer for.

 

[Izzy Real]

Typing it twice has just allowed you to prove you're wrong twice.

There are SOME Carlton supporters that are having hysterical hissy fits and there are many more reasoned Carlton supporters who view the incident rationally and applaud the way both players competed for the ball. Then there is the almost universal opinion of commentators and nuetrals who have have absolutely put their admiration for Hodge out there and the opinion that he had nothing to answer for.

I applaud the way Murph went for the ball. Apparently he was in the wrong though because we went in forward and didn't brace for the head high contact applied as Hodge turned sideways to use his shoulder.

Shame on you Murphy

 

[Dramoth]

My biggest problem with Hodge getting off is the inconsistency from the MRP. Week after week I am astounded by their decisions.

And now the tribunal is getting into the act as well.

It hasnt been about the fans for years... it's all about the money and filling Fat Vlads wallet.

The sooner that prick is thrown out (preferably a window) the better off the game will be. Shit... I reckon that I could do a better job than him at organising this mess than he has and I wouldnt cost the league more than 100k/year

 

[El Topo]

Typing it twice has just allowed you to prove you're wrong twice.

There are SOME Carlton supporters that are having hysterical hissy fits and there are many more reasoned Carlton supporters who view the incident rationally and applaud the way both players competed for the ball. Then there is the almost universal opinion of commentators and nuetrals who have have absolutely put their admiration for Hodge out there and the opinion that he had nothing to answer for.

Look at it this way. Blues fans so far this year have seen Jarrad Waite cop a one week suspension for gently brushing someone's forehead, and Eddie Betts cop five (downgraded with a guilty plea) for a slightly late (otherwise innocuous) bump where the other bloke was unlucky to get hurt. The fact that Hodge was able to run around making high contact on our players last Friday without the umpires bothering to pay a free kick was bad enough, but the fact that the MRP and Tribunal have also chosen to give him a free ride is baffling, inconsistent and downright infuriating- hence the "hissy fits".

The Murphy incident was fair enough, but the elbow to Henderson absolutely warranted a week off.

 

[Seen5]

There are SOME Carlton supporters that are having hysterical hissy fits and there are many more reasoned Carlton supporters who view the incident rationally and applaud the way both players competed for the ball. Then there is the almost universal opinion of commentators and nuetrals who have have absolutely put their admiration for Hodge out there and the opinion that he had nothing to answer for.

If you read all my posts, you'll see I recognise Hodge was committed to the ball. He was just not as committed as Murph, he changed his intent.

But I do appreciate that you have to have neutral's and media to tell you how to think, but I'll reserve the right to think for myself and put my reasonable POV on my club's thread.

 

[Dramoth]

Why do you guys care? Hendo was alright and we don't play you next week...

No problems... next time we play you, we will unleash Robbo and Bell with the instructions to hurt as many Dawks players as they can... and to do so in ways that appear to be barely legal.

I reckon that they could just about wipe out your entire team in one match.

Ohh... and we could get Levi to jump with leading knees into the backs of your defenders. Perfectly legal... especially if he also marks the ball. Not his fault if your players get their ribs caved in and their lungs punctured.

 

[MinerBoy]

but the fact that the MRP and Tribunal have also chosen to give him a free ride is baffling, inconsistent and downright infuriating- hence the "hissy fits".

The MRP/umpires make these decisions. Not sure how it impacts Hodge's respect.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

3AW's explanation:

http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/3aw-sport-blog/hodge-cleared-by-mrp/20130618-2ognc.html

3AW Tribunal reporter Graeme Bond said it was a fair result.
“It was a case of going hard at the footy, having to change direction and ending up in a collision,” he said.

http://www.3aw.com.au/blogs/3aw-sport-blog/hodge-cleared-by-mrp/20130618-2ognc.html

 

[James_Blues]

Thought I’d do a side by side comparison of Betts and Hodge’s charges for those that are interested in how it was broken down.

Betts:

Charged with Rough Conduct

- Reckless Conduct – 2 Activation Points

- Severe Impact – 4 Activation Points

- High Contact – 2 Activation Points

= 8 Activation Points = Level 5 Offence

A Level 5 Offence is according to the Table of Offences worth 550 Points. This then translates to a 5 match suspension.

Hodge:

Charged with Rough Conduct

- Negligent Conduct – 1 Activation Point

- Low Impact – 1 Activation Point

- High Contact – 2 Activation Points

= 4 Activation Points = Level 1 Offence

A Level 1 Offence is deemed to be worth 125 Points. This then translates into a 1 match suspension.

I think the MRP made the right decision in letting him go for the Murphy incident in that it was a complete accident however if you look at the definitions of each charge, he could have easily been charged with a ‘bumping or making forceful contact to an opponent from front on when that player has his head down or over the ball’.

- Negligent Conduct (person’s breach of duty of care to take reasonable care to avoid acts which can be reasonably foreseen to result in a reportable offence) – 1 Activation Point

- High/Severe Impact (not much of a clear definition on the document I’m looking at but would assume it’s around there considering Murphy broke his cheekbone) – 3-4 Activation Points.

- High Contact – 2 Activation Points

= Between 6-7 Activation Points = Level 3 or 4 Offence.

Worth either 400 or 550 points depending on the Offence which is either a 4-5 match suspension.

Not sure how the rulings work with early guilty pleas and previous offences so not sure what it would be downgraded to. Still think the system is completely subjective to the person’s interpretation of the rule and needs to be updated and each charge should have a much more detailed definition.

 

[El Topo]

The MRP/umpires make these decisions. Not sure how it impacts Hodge's respect.

It's more the frustration that he receives endless praise and adulation for on field acts that would see the average Carlton player rubbed out for half a season. Plus he plays under Clarkson, so he's a sniper by association.

 

[basil00]

I never bellieved he would/should be in trouble for the hit on Murph. Disgraceful he didn't go for the snipe on Hendo. If Waite got a week for what was a gentle push with his head, hodge surely deserved a week. We obviously upset someone in the AFL.

 

[MinerBoy]

I never bellieved he would/should be in trouble for the hit on Murph. Disgraceful he didn't go for the snipe on Hendo. If Waite got a week for what was a gentle push with his head, hodge surely deserved a week. We obviously upset someone in the AFL.

Jordan Lewis got 3 weeks for that on Monfries.

It isn't a Carlton conspiracy. It's just that the MRP are inconsistent muppets. In Hodge's case they actually got the calls right which doesn't make you guys feel better for Betts/Waite etc but doesn't make sense to see the vitriol that has been getting heaped on Hodge here.

 

[basil00]

Jordan Lewis got 3 weeks for that on Monfries.

It isn't a Carlton conspiracy. It's just that the MRP are inconsistent muppets. In Hodge's case they actually got the calls right which doesn't make you guys feel better for Betts/Waite etc but doesn't make sense to see the vitriol that has been getting heaped on Hodge here.

Hmmm, i said he deserved a week for it, just my opinion. Don't quite see where i added vitriol?

Conspiracy? You may not see it, but lots on here do. Maybe you'll get more agreement on your own board. Your choice.

 

[laguna]

Why do you guys care? Hendo was alright and we don't play you next week...

I agree.

 

[CrippsonBlue]

Reckon if Hodge had of submitted a medical report citing a dead arm, Hendo would be joining Murph on the sidelines.

 

[mess]

I applaud the way Murph went for the ball. Apparently he was in the wrong though because we went in forward and didn't brace for the head high contact applied as Hodge turned sideways to use his shoulder.

Shame on you Murphy

So Hodge was wrong for not going in headfirst and getting injured in solidarity with Murphy(who still would've gotten just as injured)?
You're allowed to protect yourself with body position when you attack the ball. If Murphy had done the same it would've just been a highlight.

 

[MinerBoy]

Hmmm, i said he deserved a week for it, just my opinion. Don't quite see where i added vitriol?

Conspiracy? You may not see it, but lots on here do. Maybe you'll get more agreement on your own board. Your choice.

I wasn't meaning you with the vitriol comment. I quoted your post with the Waite/Lewis comparison and then just added to that. Your post was very reasonable.

On my own board we have weeks where we get made love to from behind from the umpires/MRP and we claim conspiracy too. So do the other 16 teams. I guess the AFL has it in for all of us.

 

[mess]

You guys might save yourselves some frustration by tracking down a replay. I thought Hodge was going to be in trouble too at first, but having watched the replay on Sunday it was clear to me Hodge certainly did not plan on making contact with LH. He ducked out of Roughy's way and there was Hendo: *BRACE*

This is actually a really encouraging result from the MRP. In the post they have seemed immovable, but this was the reasonable decision not the expected one.

 

[QuietB]

No problems... next time we play you, we will unleash Robbo and Bell with the instructions to hurt as many Dawks players as they can... and to do so in ways that appear to be barely legal.

I reckon that they could just about wipe out your entire team in one match.

Ohh... and we could get Levi to jump with leading knees into the backs of your defenders. Perfectly legal... especially if he also marks the ball. Not his fault if your players get their ribs caved in and their lungs punctured.

I'm astounded Robbo hasn't wiped out one of your blokes yet.

I hope none of you blokes are the same ones who harp on about how the game has gone soft.

 

[KennyHunter9]

Don't think Hodge should have got off for the hit on Hendo (and most neutrals on the night on BF agreed he would get two weeks).

Having said that, I am comfortable with decisions like this provided there is consistency. But there won't be, and that's the problem.

Hawthorn do appear to be a protected species when you consider the 10 "play on" calls per game that are not paid every time Buddy runs onto this natural f****** arc. Has the Geish even read the rules?

I wonder if the rules committee, umpires, the MRP and the Tribunal have ever got together to talk about rule interpretations. I doubt it.

 

[MinerBoy]

He did turn the shoulder. And his shoulder connected. .

All while bending down for the ball. It's actually called the correct technique.

While Murphy was unlucky, he went into a contest leading with his head which is actually not the way to pick up the ball unless out in the open. Footballers are taught from early on how to protect themselves in a contest. What Hodge did was put himself in a position to protect himself while competing for the ball. Had nothing to do with lining up Murphy.

If he over ran the ball and ran his shoulder straight through Murphy he gets a long holiday, Matthew Lloyd style. However he didn't. He simpy competed for the ball with his own head down and over it too but with his own body in better position than Murphy to prevent himself getting injured. Furthermore, he won the ball and got the clearing handball. Murphy was simply very unlucky he got a bad injury when two blokes both going for the ball collided.