Teams 2013 Rate my SuperCoach Team

[Mad Sainter]

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Please be blunt

Varcoe, Menzel, Byrnes is very risky and is not likely to pay off.
Lueny Burger is highly unlikely to play round 1.
Forward line is to weak, take out Hartlett and use the extra money from downgrading, TV, DM and SB, plus whatever you currently have left to upgrade to a premo eg. Bartel, Stevie J.

 

[AchillesII]

Zac Smith i think is a more secure option than Loonyburger... His position is unrivalled and Smith has every chance to have a breakout year with a couple of years in the seiors under his belt. He should at LEAST improve well in to the 400's and if Leuenberger returns to full fitness, you can just move straight across (usually wouldn't recommend sideways trades but with 30 trades, it's not so bad).

 

[AchillesII]

To clarify, Leuenberger's spot is obviously secure, but it's a fitness issue that we face with him

 

[BigGib]

BG's SUPERCOACH ANALYSIS
Here I go...Starting with my team, then the justifications.



Following the better part of the NAB Cup series, I am beginning to form a decent team that I hope will take me through to round one. 20k remaining.

FORWARD ANALYSIS: Due to the lack of forward rookies this year, I have decided to load up my forward line with proven SC scorers. I have gone against picking Varcoe as he will at most get me an average of 60ppg and be my weakest link. The only forward options that I think are of value this year are Ben Kennedy, Tim Membrey, Jake Stringer, Matthew McDonough, Josh Simpson and Tom Lee. Each of which look unlikely to get much game time. Had Kennedy ended up at a team such as the Western Bulldogs, he would have been a supercoach gem however, I think his class will force his way into the side and I am not burning a trade on him once he does so. The other bench spot is still up in the air but at the moment Neade has it just ahead of Lee. I see Neade receiving the vest for the first few weeks but after a good run, see him forcing his way into the side ala Luke Dahlhaus. Stringer at this stage is my downgrade target and I see him making his debut around round 8. Maccaff is too cheap to ignore, Broughton is a proven Premium, Rockliff looks in better form and the rest are solid picks with Cox there for support in case either of the rucks go down. A potential gun recruit this year might also be Monfries. QN: Will Jed Lamb get a gig?

RUCK ANALYSIS: My ruck is by far my weakest part of the ground. I still have serious questions over Goldstein's scoring ability but without Mac, surely he will flourish. His price is so alluring but will he ever live up to his 2011 form where he was quite consistent and pumped out some huge scores? Then for Luey, his price is just too irresistible with the form he showed in 2011 aswell. Had this season been 2011, I would not even be second guessing these selections but form can slide. For the rookies, I have selected Currie who I know from an inside source is next to guaranteed a round 1 gig. For those thinking of picking Majak, think again... He also told me that they sigh at the hype surrounded him as they know he can barely run out a quarter let alone a game and is still a long way off. Rowe is my final selection as he gives me the flexibility to move Cox in and out depending on injury. QN: Will the rucks return to 2011 form?

MIDFIELD ANALYSIS: As much as I tried to be different, it seems everyone has approached this year quite similarly with the 4 Prem/4 Rookie midfield. There is just soooo much value there that it's too hard too resist. You will see that I have gone without Ablett to everyones surprise and yes it's a huge call but I don't expect his price to stay above 700k for an extended period of time so until then, I have Sam Mitchell who scores very well until he plays Sydney which is round 7. Yes, it could come back to bite me but I'm willing to take a risk. The other three Premiums I have are Pendles, Danger and Cotch who I think are touch wood, generally injury free and genuine superstars. Koby is going to get alot of game time this year where as I see alot of the other rookie mids being weened into game time. He won't be your huge SC scorer but I see an 80ppg average which is suffice for a rookie priced mid. Wines is an absolute beast and watching him during his TAC Cup games and U18, I knew he was a round one lock in any side. He really reminds me of a young Trent Cotchin. He averaged 130+ SC points at TAC Cup level and I am expecting 60-80ppg from him. Crouch and O'Meara, I think has been enough spoken about them but I seem them in that same sort of bracket. With the bench options, I have opted to go for Viney and Mitchell. Both are going to get a decent amount of game time. I don't see Viney scoring that highly and an average of 65ppg. Mitchell's disposal is atrocious so not your typical selection however the sheer weight of possessions have overruled that.

I really wanted to fit Mundy into the side but it would mean loosing $300k on another rookie. Another headache I have had is trying to find enough $$$ to fit Kane Lucas into the side. Round one starter and his ceiling is quite high so he has one more weekend to put in a solid performance to convince me. Finally, my downgrade target is Nathan Hrovat. Has only just been replaced by Mitchell in my side due to his quad injury and the doggies being cautious about it but come round 3ish, I see him making his debut and making a considerable impact. QN: Will Tom Mitchell get a gig?

BACKLINE ANALYSIS: To finish things off, the backline. This year, there is considerable value in the backline. Good mid-priced players, cheap premiums and great rookies. However, my backline has stayed quite the same the whole way through however. Starting with the Bench, Turlich has looked not great but solid this NAB Cup. Colqhoun is a good player but the physical aspect of AFL makes him still a while off being a round 1 starter imo. Pittard also looked quite smooth early on in the NAB cup which caught my eye and hopefully his body is right. The two rookies I've started with are certain round 1 starters and look doomed to have a significant impact and be more than just cash cows. Enough said. Hartlett, I see being the player to really step up this year and be a in the top 5 SC defenders. Duffman has had a huge pre season and going on NAB Cup form alone, he is a lock. Without Broughton, I see Duffman really excelling this year. Gibbs with more midfield time, surely he can become more consistent with 100+ scores. Goddard is also a lock. QN: Should I go Docherty or Pittard?

The final recap:

• Should Docherty be in the team?
• Does Lucas force his way into my team?
• Should the rucks reach their 2011 form or opt for Roughead/Ryder etc?
• Will Macaff get a spot on the park and do I have enough cover on my forward bench?

Review my team and justifications.

Cheers!

 

[Donakebab]

The final recap:

• Should Docherty be in the team?
• Does Lucas force his way into my team?
• Should the rucks reach their 2011 form or opt for Roughead/Ryder etc?
• Will Macaff get a spot on the park and do I have enough cover on my forward bench?

Review my team and justifications.

Cheers!

Nice team, something from left field that definitely could come off well.

Understand the need to bat deep in the forward line due to lack of rookies, but feel just a bit too much is being spent there. With the news just breaking that Leuy has had a set back, I'd bite the bullet, drop him for Cox and go for a cheaper forward.

Dot points.
- Docherty/Pittard your guess is as good as mine. If you're not happy with a toss of the coin, go with the player from the better team, more opportunity to score.
- Stevens will get much more game time at the Dogs and is cheaper than Lucas. No brainer for me there imo.
- Rucks has been addressed above. If you have the extra coin then keep Cox in the forward line and drop Ryder or Roughead for Leuy.
- Caff will get game time, but Kennedy is not good cover. There is a stack of youngsters at collingwood currently ahead of him. He might get games, but doubt it will be early and doubt it will be many consecutive.



I've been forced to make wholesale changes because of Leuy, so while I was at it I tried to get in more POD's. Pick it apart people.

 

[GOAUS!]

I've been forced to make wholesale changes because of Leuy, so while I was at it I tried to get in more POD's. Pick it apart people.

You reckon Griffen, NDS and Fyfe will all be Top 10-15 mids by season's end?

 

[Donakebab]

You reckon Griffen, NDS and Fyfe will all be Top 10-15 mids by season's end?

Dal has an easy start to the season, he'll bank big scores and bump his price up. With the increased amount of trades I'm prepared to burn one and upgrade him to a Murphy/Cotchin/whoever then.
Griffin had a down year and still averaged 105. He's a gun and hitting his peak, definitely think he can bump it up 5-10 points. Also a great POD, don't see him being in many teams this year.
Fyfe is a dead set gun and I have complete faith in his scoring ability, especially at that price.

Yes some risks are being taken, but 4 rookie mids on the field is a risk too, especially with 2 more on the bench.

 

[AchillesII]

Dal has an easy start to the season, he'll bank big scores and bump his price up. With the increased amount of trades I'm prepared to burn one and upgrade him to a Murphy/Cotchin/whoever then.
Griffin had a down year and still averaged 105. He's a gun and hitting his peak, definitely think he can bump it up 5-10 points. Also a great POD, don't see him being in many teams this year.
Fyfe is a dead set gun and I have complete faith in his scoring ability, especially at that price.

Yes some risks are being taken, but 4 rookie mids on the field is a risk too, especially with 2 more on the bench.

I wouldn't say 4 rookie mids on the field is risky at all... If you're going to have 6 rookies on the field, in which position would you expect the highest scores and hence the highest price rise? Surely it would be in the midfield. It's hard to pick where the next Barlow or Zorko is going to come from, but one thing that is common is that both of them played in the midfield. Forward (in particular key position forwards) take years to take off, rookie defenders are notorious for averaging 50 ppg, and rookie rucks, unless in unique situations such as Smith and GIles in start up clubs, take even longer to start dishing out solid scores.

So if you're going to put your faith in a particular area for rookies, midfield is the way to go. Have your guns that will churn out big scores and keep your overall score consistent, but when it comes to making bigger money for the end of the season, midfield rookies all the way.

 

[AchillesII]

Feel free to critique the sh#t out of this one. Naismith is R4 just because i don't really think that spot will do much, the forward line is stronger so that the forward bench can cover for ruck injuries. Not to mention i don't see much potential in forward line rookies this year.

 

[AchillesII]

There will be the option to get Staker back in when he finally plays, assuming he scores well, he will most likely slot in to the back line in place of whomever turns out to be a disappointing prospect in the back line... That would also open up the link with Broughton in the forward line.

 

[Gezim]

DEF: Goddard, Gibbs, Duffield, hanely, Goodes, Docherty, (Terlich, colquhoun )
MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, danger, cotchin, bennell, crouch, Wines, O'Meara, (Mitchell, viney)
RUC: Cox, jenkins, (Currie, witts)
FOR: buddy, karnezis, Rockliff, Varcoe, rowe, Neade, (S. johnson, kerridge)
23k,
thoughts......

 

[Double the Fist]

Feel free to critique the sh#t out of this one. Naismith is R4 just because i don't really think that spot will do much, the forward line is stronger so that the forward bench can cover for ruck injuries. Not to mention i don't see much potential in forward line rookies this year. View attachment 13172

Not sure Coloquen will play a lot early. Bit thin I hear. If named rd one, him and neade will toss for the vest I think mate.

 

[Jiska]

After spending waaaaaaay too much time on Supercoach, this is my current team (altered when Leuy was injured) - thoughts??

 

[Jimmy Yamazaki]

After spending waaaaaaay too much time on Supercoach, this is my current team (altered when Leuy was injured) - thoughts??

You have a huge amount of risk imo.

Your banking on Shuey having a break out year, Fyfe staying on the park and having a break out year.(to compete with the best mids)

Currie won't get games ahead of Goldstein at least not early.

Your also banking on Martin, Siposs and Varcoe to have break out years and LeCras and Varcoe to stay on the park. Not to mention Hartlett down back.

Extremely risky imo. If a couple go down injured or a couple don't perform, (Which could be likely considering the amount of risk) your in for a world of hurt.

Edit: Would get another Super Premium mid and another premium forward and get rid of some of the mid prices.

 

[DT_35]

Hey guys,

BACKS: Goddard, Waters, Gibbs, Hartlett, Vlastuin, Staker (BENCH: Terlich, Stevenson)

MIDS: Swan, Dangerfield, Shuey, Fyfe, K.Lucas, K.Stevens, O'Meara, Wines (BENCH: Viney, Crouch)

RUCKS: Cox, Jacobs (BENCH: Witts, Daw)

FORWARDS: Franklin, Rockliff, Wellingham, Sylvia, Jenkins, Macaffer (BENCH: Rowe, T.Lee)

Thoughts?

Thanks

 

[Tigey]

Hello Supercoachers

This is my current side

B) Goddard, Gibbs, Enright, Broughton, Ellis, Goodes, Colquhuon, Terlich

M) Swan, Cotchin, Priddis, Rich, Moloney, Varcoe, Vlaustin, O'Meara, Viney

R) Jacobs, Vardy, Currie, Rowe

F) Franklin, Cox, Martin, Bartel, Karnezis, MacCaffer, Kerridge, Lee

Please give any feedback.

I am very thankful

 

[00Stinger]

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Please be blunt

Get rid of Brynes and Menzel, bring Varcoe to the forward line. That should free up about $70k.

Then trade Lucas for Crouch/Omeara. Never spend $200k + on a player who will be on your bench. This should free up another $100k.

Now with that $170k + $109k ($289k total) you already have left, go and trade Mayes out for Mitch Robinson or Dustin Martin

 

[00Stinger]

Hello Supercoachers

This is my current side

B) Goddard, Gibbs, Enright, Broughton, Ellis, Goodes, Colquhuon, Terlich

M) Swan, Cotchin, Priddis, Rich, Moloney, Varcoe, Vlaustin, O'Meara, Viney

R) Jacobs, Vardy, Currie, Rowe

F) Franklin, Cox, Martin, Bartel, Karnezis, MacCaffer, Kerridge, Lee

Please give any feedback.

I am very thankful

If you want someone to comment on your team, how about you have the decency to comment on the persons before you?

 

[Tigey]

If you want someone to comment on your team, how about you have the decency to comment on the persons before you?

How about you give me a chance too Jerk!

 

[00Stinger]

How about you give me a chance too Jerk!

52 minutes after you posted your team, how long does it take?

 

[toxic]

Hey guys,

BACKS: Goddard, Waters, Gibbs, Hartlett, Vlastuin, Staker (BENCH: Terlich, Stevenson)

MIDS: Swan, Dangerfield, Shuey, Fyfe, K.Lucas, K.Stevens, O'Meara, Wines (BENCH: Viney, Crouch)

RUCKS: Cox, Jacobs (BENCH: Witts, Daw)

FORWARDS: Franklin, Rockliff, Wellingham, Sylvia, Jenkins, Macaffer (BENCH: Rowe, T.Lee)

Thoughts?

Thanks

different approach - could pay off, def is great (perhaps too strong)

but then i see Sylvia and kinda squirma bit (burns to most parts of my body from previous visits to Sylvia land)

 

[toxic]

Hello Supercoachers

This is my current side

B) Goddard, Gibbs, Enright, Broughton, Ellis, Goodes, Colquhuon, Terlich

M) Swan, Cotchin, Priddis, Rich, Moloney, Varcoe, Vlaustin, O'Meara, Viney

R) Jacobs, Vardy, Currie, Rowe

F) Franklin, Cox, Martin, Bartel, Karnezis, MacCaffer, Kerridge, Lee

Please give any feedback.

I am very thankful

Tigey - ignore Sivart - he's struggling with the concept of no Looneyburger!! (as we all are).

Priddis is a plodder - will score between 95-110 - never going to reach super premium.
Varcoe should be fwd instead of Lee or Kerridge, choose another rookie mid
Vardy - first team i've seen with him (injuries would scare me off him personally) depending on cash Stefam martin might be an option or josh jenkins
Ellis- what do u think he'll average? (only averaged 56 or something last season and never went over 90 - think you can find a 150K cheaper rookie to provide the same value)

 

[Tigey]

Hey guys,

BACKS: Goddard, Waters, Gibbs, Hartlett, Vlastuin, Staker (BENCH: Terlich, Stevenson)

MIDS: Swan, Dangerfield, Shuey, Fyfe, K.Lucas, K.Stevens, O'Meara, Wines (BENCH: Viney, Crouch)

RUCKS: Cox, Jacobs (BENCH: Witts, Daw)

FORWARDS: Franklin, Rockliff, Wellingham, Sylvia, Jenkins, Macaffer (BENCH: Rowe, T.Lee)

Thoughts?

Thanks

Certainly isnt your stock standard approach compared to others on this page, but if it pays off will be a very handy side with upgrade options a plenty



There are a few players that I may be wrong about but have been under injury clouds in recent times and aren't in line for round 1 (Staker, Wellingham)



Staker maybe for Goodes if you are looking for a Mature Age, and Wellingham for a number of mid priced players, Karnezis has been killing it and may be a little cash cow due to more mid time



Keep an eye on Daw as he is very doubtful for early games, Currie may be a better option

My only concern is your forward line with Sylvia and Jenkins, big risk with two players, sylvia who is very up and down (lots of potential) and Jenkins who "could" flourish without Tippet, I would be tempted to go for a more mid/fwd than Jenkins as Typically big forwards arent high scores and there are other options with Varcoe/Byrnes etc



All in all the side looks good, have a good spread of premium and rookies

 

[Tigey]

Tigey - ignore Sivart - he's struggling with the concept of no Looneyburger!! (as we all are).

Priddis is a plodder - will score between 95-110 - never going to reach super premium.
Varcoe should be fwd instead of Lee or Kerridge, choose another rookie mid
Vardy - first team i've seen with him (injuries would scare me off him personally) depending on cash Stefam martin might be an option or josh jenkins
Ellis- what do u think he'll average? (only averaged 56 or something last season and never went over 90 - think you can find a 150K cheaper rookie to provide the same value)

Legend!

 

[gtrain29]

Hello Supercoachers

This is my current side

B) Goddard, Gibbs, Enright, Broughton, Ellis, Goodes, Colquhuon, Terlich

M) Swan, Cotchin, Priddis, Rich, Moloney, Varcoe, Vlaustin, O'Meara, Viney

R) Jacobs, Vardy, Currie, Rowe

F) Franklin, Cox, Martin, Bartel, Karnezis, MacCaffer, Kerridge, Lee

Please give any feedback.

I am very thankful

IMO I would downgrade Ellis to a rookie(egDocherty,Stevenson,Pittard) and trade out 1or even2 of Rich,Maloney,Varco just think so many good rookies in the mids(wines,Mitchell,Stevens etc) then u might be able to get Ablett in which I think is a must.also not sure if Vardy will be ready for rnd 1 hope it helps

Here is my side reasonably happy though worried about leuenberger in the rcks any advice would be greatly appreciated!!!

BACKS- Goddard,H Shaw Gibbs Hartlett Goddes Docherty Stevenson Terlich

MIDS- Ablett Swan Watson Cotchin Heppell Wines Crouch O'mera K Mitchell Viney

RUCKS- Mummford Leuenberger Currie Witts

FWDS- Franklin Rockliff Breust LeCras Varco Mayes Macaffer Lee
Have taken a bit of a punt on Heppell and Breust looking for more mid time and a breakout year but any advice would be great cheers!!!!