2013 State League Draft Prospects

[Sin City]

Ive been touting Melbourne to go after some more mature aged players after the success of Matt Jones, Dean Terlich, James Magner and Tom Couch. Would not be out of the question to see them again pick up 3 - 4 mature aged guys who could come in and play from round 1, 2014.

If you were to throw up 2 mature aged midfielders who could come in and influence AFL games next year, who would you choose?

Myself? I'd look at Dayle Garlett to play on a forward flank running through the midfield.
Ben Ross to play on a wing to be that genuine line breaker and a third mature aged player be an Adam Cockie or Brayden O'Hara as genuine midfielders.

I'd say Cockie or Suckling for a mature midfielder and then Garlett (if he gets/stays on the right track) to do exactly as you said.

 

[Chris25]

The way I look at it, Brad Symes is a better player than the likes of O'Hara and Suckling. Yet, he couldn't crack a game last year and got delisted. Why would lesser players fare any better? And then you look at someone like Ben Nason, he had a good couple of seasons at Richmond. But the moment they came good, all of a sudden he was holding them back and was delisted. To a lesser extent, you can throw Kayler-Thompson in here too. Melbourne could field 22 mature aged recruits, but it won't help long term.

There are some I would cherry pick - Garlett, Motlop, Gray for example. But it's largely the younger guys with versatility who appeal to me personally.

 

[Knightmare]

I wouldn't bother with the majority listed there to be honest. Nothing more than stop gaps, who won't help a team win or really aid in development either. It's more about who has development to come, as opposed to who is dominating every week.

It depends on the way you see particular players. Some may be used as stop gaps but they don't all have to be and 18 year olds aren't always the only good talents.

I view the better state leaguers as guys who in a team who plays a style of footy that suits their game and have a role available to them as players who could thrive in particular situations as an 18 year old could.

There is no reason why an established state leaguer like a Braydn O'Hara could not find a role on a Collingwood long term off a back flank or a wing.

That Chris Cain guy has been good for a number of years now and only gets better with each year he plays. Would he not be able to become a regular for a team? I'm thinking a Melbourne/Port Adelaide/St Kilda could pretty easily find him a position through their midfields.

If you are dominating every week then you are developed. Developing players aim to dominate every week or find a role. If you find a player who dominates every week it's about evaluating whether they can find and hold down a role on your team. In many cases it will be no, but there will be enough cases where there will be a fit from one of the state leagues for it to be a valid form of recruiting.

With the % of state league recruits making successes of themselves more can and should be drafted every year when the strike rate is that much stronger than with 18 year olds despite these state leaguers typically coming from later or rookie selections.

 

[Nemisis]

There are better players in the SANFL. Sam Gray is the pick of the bunch this year for me, even though he is on the shorter side. And just off the top of my head; Tom Langford, Jonno Beech, Matt Goldsworthy, Brady Dawe, Alex Georgiou and Byron Sumner. Marlon Motlop from the WAFL too.

Chris you have picked the cherries - ALL could play AFL this weekend given a chance. Sumner and Goldsworthy are my favourites

 

[Rayklienig]

Any decent ruckman in the state leagues for a possible rookie list for Sydney

 

[Yoda_]

The way I look at it, Brad Symes is a better player than the likes of O'Hara and Suckling. Yet, he couldn't crack a game last year and got delisted. Why would lesser players fare any better? And then you look at someone like Ben Nason, he had a good couple of seasons at Richmond. But the moment they came good, all of a sudden he was holding them back and was delisted. To a lesser extent, you can throw Kayler-Thompson in here too. Melbourne could field 22 mature aged recruits, but it won't help long term.

There are some I would cherry pick - Garlett, Motlop, Gray for example. But it's largely the younger guys with versatility who appeal to me personally.

Of course, but having been in the lower systems for a number of years, you can pick the high quality people who are very good players. Who would have picked Matt Jones to be a regular at the demons this year?

If they picked up another 2 or 3 that would hold them in better stead for the future rather than the current development program they have in place.

 

[Rayklienig]

Alex Georgio could be a good shutdown defender if anyone's chasing one

 

[Thunderstruck]

The way I look at it, Brad Symes is a better player than the likes of O'Hara and Suckling. Yet, he couldn't crack a game last year and got delisted. Why would lesser players fare any better? And then you look at someone like Ben Nason, he had a good couple of seasons at Richmond. But the moment they came good, all of a sudden he was holding them back and was delisted. To a lesser extent, you can throw Kayler-Thompson in here too. Melbourne could field 22 mature aged recruits, but it won't help long term.

There are some I would cherry pick - Garlett, Motlop, Gray for example. But it's largely the younger guys with versatility who appeal to me personally.

Oh gee whizz that's a brave call! as a doggies fan who follows them religiously give me O'Hara ANY SINGLE DAY over Symes. Over 10 Brad Symes's. Symes can get it but he is treacle in the AFL and his hospital loopy kicks do no goot at all. O'Hara is hard, tough, has more pace (certainly not quick) and is an elite, spearing kick. And he can rack it up as well. He'd play a role in an AFL side a lot more than Symes ever could.

Nason should never have been drafted, I'm amazed he did as well as he did. Can't even crack league SANFL now.

Suckling is a gun and is miles better than countless AFL listed players atm. Clearance and inside machine. Arguably the best player outside the AFL. In the top 5 absolutely.

Beech, Gray, Jarrad, Liddle, Caire are others that are more than capable of playing in the AFL. Lee Spurr was in a similar boat a couple of years ago, probably a top 5 SANFL player and thankfully got drafted. Not quick, but strong mark and solid kick and hard as nails. Now the freo fans reckon he is close to leading their B&F for this year. Cult hero just about.

Sam Gray is one I'd be looking at closely as has been mentioned here before. Racks up crazy amounts of the ball, and kicks goals and is always dangerous. Bit like Stokes used to be before he went to Geelong. And he goes alright there.

 

[Futbolista]

WAFL league prospects http://www.ozfooty.net/joomla16/forum/wafl-general-chat/1164-2013-wafl-round-12-wrap

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Ben Warren kicked another bag for Werribee yesterday.

Scott Sherlock named in the bests again.

Michael Lourey and Zig Alwan were the ones that caught my eye from the Dolphins.

Agree with the above post about Suckling, played all my junior football with him and couldn't believe he didn't get drafted. Very tough, mature body and could play a role at an AFL club from day dot.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

WAFL league prospects http://www.ozfooty.net/joomla16/forum/wafl-general-chat/1164-2013-wafl-round-12-wrap

surely Banner will be given another shot.

 

[Mitchell08]

Sam Conroy from nth Ballarat is an up and coming ruckman whom is only 21 and in the afl system could become a good afl ruckman. Hasn't had much luck being behind Oren Stephenson then Ben Mabon (on the north list) but when he gets a game in the first he performs. Great tap ruckmen with huge potential.

 

[Team DJ]

Any of the following could fill a role on an AFL list

Joel Tippett Daniel Caire Brad Mangan Scott Bricknell Travis Tuck Peter Nelson Jono Beech Taite Silverlock

 

[Team DJ]

Bricknell is a good running defender not scared to take the game on how old is he?

25 or 26. He and Caire are similar ages.
Both should be on AFL lists. Bricknell a more polished user. Caire a harder runner, with more speed and shut down ability.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

Any of the following could fill a role on an AFL list

Joel Tippett Daniel Caire Brad Mangan Scott Bricknell Travis Tuck Peter Nelson Jono Beech Taite Silverlock

Mangan won't make it I don't reckon. Can't see how he would have added to his game. Was pretty far off the pace when he was rookied by the roos.

 

[Brut]

Any information about essendon VFL ruckman Michael Sikora?? He played the VFL state game jumped all over paul johnson even being injured.

 

[Team DJ]

Mangan won't make it I don't reckon. Can't see how he would have added to his game. Was pretty far off the pace when he was rookied by the roos.

Hes been great for West this year. A good 3rd tall. Can lock down, good third up and decent skills. (Takes the full back kick outs at West).

I never saw him at Nort but theres a bit to like in the SANFL

 

[cotter101]

Ive been touting Melbourne to go after some more mature aged players after the success of Matt Jones, Dean Terlich, James Magner and Tom Couch. Would not be out of the question to see them again pick up 3 - 4 mature aged guys who could come in and play from round 1, 2014.

If you were to throw up 2 mature aged midfielders who could come in and influence AFL games next year, who would you choose?

Myself? I'd look at Dayle Garlett to play on a forward flank running through the midfield.
Ben Ross to play on a wing to be that genuine line breaker and a third mature aged player be an Adam Cockie or Brayden O'Hara as genuine midfielders.

Adam Cockie is one who should be on an AFL list. The Saints have been monitoring him closely.
Very strong clearance player.

 

[Mad_dawg25]

Adam Cockie is one who should be on an AFL list. The Saints have been monitoring him closely.
Very strong clearance player.

I think his time may have past,

Think he is a good clearance player and able to play a role but hasn't improved anymore from when he was delisted at west coast.

 

[Some Idiot]

Haretaku kicked a bag on the weekend

 

[coniglio_number1]

Who is the best fullback and ruckman from any of the wafl/sanfl/vfl/neafl/ntfl/tas. Only really know about Kris pendlebury being a solid fullback.

 

[Thunderstruck]

Who is the best fullback and ruckman from any of the wafl/sanfl/vfl/neafl/ntfl/tas. Only really know about Kris pendlebury being a solid fullback.

From the SANFL Joel Tippett would probably be the best full back atm. He really has improved since he was last on an AFL list. Ryan Ferguson is also extremely good in defence and would be better than many AFL KPD but alas he is 30odd now.

On Mangan, I don't think he is worthy of an AFL spot again, I feel the state league is about his level of football.

Caire is one I'd consider for a mature age rookie spot, great player for his size, can play tall or small and rebound strongly as well as play right through the middle. Skilled player and very strong overhead.

 

[Team DJ]

Who is the best fullback and ruckman from any of the wafl/sanfl/vfl/neafl/ntfl/tas. Only really know about Kris pendlebury being a solid fullback.

Joel Tippett would be the best defender in the SANFL.
Best ruck is a tough one. Probably Craig Parry but he could be a bit old to get on an AFL list

 

[Thunderstruck]

Joel Tippett would be the best defender in the SANFL.
Best ruck is a tough one. Probably Craig Parry but he could be a bit old to get on an AFL list

Yer Parry has been the best ruck for many years in the SANFL. For a bloke that is 194cm 98kg (he looks heavier surely), he has flogged much bigger opponents with his strength and tapwork. Won't get a look in now but he can more than compete with AFL rucks dropped to SANFL etc.

For a ruck prospect to be drafted, Nelson from West is probably the best one. 202cm 100kg, good progression through the reserves and can tap well and mark very strongly and kick goals when resting forward. Still perhaps a little 'raw' but is quickly improving. Worth a punt.

Baulderstone is another than impressed me from Norwood. Absolute beast of a man, extremely strong, 200cm 113kg but perhaps needs to trim down more (which he has done from 2012). One to watch.

Angus Kurtze is probasbly the best all round ruck in the SANFL when combining ruckwork and around the ground effots. Gets lots of hitouts, and lots of the ball around the ground, 202cm 102kg. But getting on a bit now....

Of the kids, Steffe, Spurling, Miller, Penney and Simister are the pick of the bunch for mine.

 

[Yoda_]

Adam Cockie is one who should be on an AFL list. The Saints have been monitoring him closely.
Very strong clearance player.

That wouldn't surprise me, he and Ben Ross are the two out standing ex - AFL players in the VFL.

Won't surprise me one bit to see Mitch Woofindin on an AFL rookie list next year after dominating again on the w.e. ave. 27 possessions, 10 handball receives and 4.3 tackles per game. If he tidied up his kicking a little more he could be a lock but I'm not sure that a small (178cm) one paced midfielder has a place in today's game at the highest level.