2014 AFL Hall of Fame inductees
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agreed. stats aren't the be all and end all but compare Johnson to others and I wonder why he is in the first year he is eligible, 6 all Australians, well im surprised he made 6, but oh well good luck to him I guess. just to me there are guys who have been retired longer who should go in first
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Either a few w***ers in here or people with short memories.
All richly deserved.
All richly deserved.
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Seeing as Brian Taylor's got as much chance of getting into the Hall of Fame as I do ... I hope he eases up on Richo now and shows some respect.
McLeod will be elevated to Legend one day.
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Kouta is borderline just because he probably didn't quite play at that champion level for long enough, but I wont argue. Brilliant player.
I know nothing of the old Carlton guy.
If anybody is arguing the other 4 are "just decent footballers" you're ****ing kidding yourself. All 4 are absolute champions of the game.
I know nothing of the old Carlton guy.
If anybody is arguing the other 4 are "just decent footballers" you're ****ing kidding yourself. All 4 are absolute champions of the game.
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You're an Essendon fan and you don't respect Tredders?
Makes sense actually, you'd have been home before full time 9 times out of 10.
I have the same thoughts. Has a ridiculous record
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Kouta is more deserving than the other three you mentioned. Especially Tredrea.
Kouta is in my AFL Live I team on PS3 and considering John Coleman is up forward... #NuffSaid
Agree with the Leigh Mathews comment.
Its becoming to weighted to recently retired players.
McLeod deserves to to be put in straight away, the others deserve to be in but should probably should have to wait a few more years.
Its becoming to weighted to recently retired players.
McLeod deserves to to be put in straight away, the others deserve to be in but should probably should have to wait a few more years.
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Based on what? He's already getting in despite a resume that is solid without being genuinely HOF outstanding because of one single where he was the best player in the game.
Tredrea has 4 AA guernseys in the hardest position on the ground, and is a premiership captain.
Richo kicked 800 goals in the modern era.
McLeod and Johnson have achievement lists as long as your arm.
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Said in the other thread that Tredrea is probably understated in terms of recognition by award in the legaue and was worthy. Was young when he played his best stuff.
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It begs the question why do you then start another thread on the Hall of Fame ? , just confusing having answers to questions from other threads on the same topic already existing.
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I need to ask the question - Seeing that it appears that some posters haven't watched much footy before 1999 - Have these posters who criticise Kouta's selection into the HOF actually watched him play footy ?
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Never heard of Ernest Renfry the third, so I won't comment on him
The Hall of Fame inductions for McLeod, Johnson, Tredrea and Richo are all richly deserved. All of them were undisputed champions of the game. Anyone who says otherwise is talking through their arse. But it's got me stumped how Koutoufides has leap-frogged over 20 more worthy candidates.
Overrated.
Kouta was brilliant in 1995 and quite awesome from 2000 to 2001, but he wasn't particularly good in any of his other seasons. 3 or 4 great years doesn't equal a Hall of fame career. I reckon Kouta was always a much-hyped player who never quite lived up to the "superman" tag he earned in 1995 and 2000. He went missing for a few years in the late 90's. It was the common subject on talkback radio: What's wrong with Kouta?
He was okay at CHB in 1999 and had a great year when moved on-ball in 2000. Then he ruptured an ACL in 2001 and was never much good after that. He lost most of the athleticism which made him so great in 2000. He just a big-bodied clearance winner, but not silky-skilled. He won a B&F for a horrible wooden spoon side.
I would put him equal with Corey McKernan, as someone who blew the competition apart for 3 or 4 seasons, but wasn't so hot for most of his career.
Here's 30+ footballers who had better careers than Kouta but who aren't in the Hall of Fame: Ben Cousins, Jason Akermanis, Anthony Stevens, Nigel Lappin, Stewart Loewe, Nathan Burke, David Cloke, Barry Hall, Wayne Schwass, Rohan Smith, Tony Liberatore, Gary Buckenara, Chris Mew, Russell Greene, Wayne Johnston, Brett Ratten, Andrew McKay, Ben Hart, Simon Goodwin, Shannon Grant, Adam Simpson, Paul Couch, Chris Johnson, Justin Leppitsch, Chris Mainwaring, Tyson Edwards, Wayne Campbell, Matthew Knights, Adem Yze, David Neitz, Roger Merrett, Fraser Gehrig.
The Hall of Fame inductions for McLeod, Johnson, Tredrea and Richo are all richly deserved. All of them were undisputed champions of the game. Anyone who says otherwise is talking through their arse. But it's got me stumped how Koutoufides has leap-frogged over 20 more worthy candidates.
Overrated.
Kouta was brilliant in 1995 and quite awesome from 2000 to 2001, but he wasn't particularly good in any of his other seasons. 3 or 4 great years doesn't equal a Hall of fame career. I reckon Kouta was always a much-hyped player who never quite lived up to the "superman" tag he earned in 1995 and 2000. He went missing for a few years in the late 90's. It was the common subject on talkback radio: What's wrong with Kouta?
He was okay at CHB in 1999 and had a great year when moved on-ball in 2000. Then he ruptured an ACL in 2001 and was never much good after that. He lost most of the athleticism which made him so great in 2000. He just a big-bodied clearance winner, but not silky-skilled. He won a B&F for a horrible wooden spoon side.
I would put him equal with Corey McKernan, as someone who blew the competition apart for 3 or 4 seasons, but wasn't so hot for most of his career.
Here's 30+ footballers who had better careers than Kouta but who aren't in the Hall of Fame: Ben Cousins, Jason Akermanis, Anthony Stevens, Nigel Lappin, Stewart Loewe, Nathan Burke, David Cloke, Barry Hall, Wayne Schwass, Rohan Smith, Tony Liberatore, Gary Buckenara, Chris Mew, Russell Greene, Wayne Johnston, Brett Ratten, Andrew McKay, Ben Hart, Simon Goodwin, Shannon Grant, Adam Simpson, Paul Couch, Chris Johnson, Justin Leppitsch, Chris Mainwaring, Tyson Edwards, Wayne Campbell, Matthew Knights, Adem Yze, David Neitz, Roger Merrett, Fraser Gehrig.
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Yeah but we've also watched everyone else play footy at the same time.
I'm not arguing with his selection for the record.
Kouta's peak was phenomenal, which is why he's getting in despite having a resume that doesn't really call for it. 2 AA guernseys as a midfielder in a 16 year career isn't impressive when we're considering Hall of Fame entries.
He's getting in because he activated god mode in 2000, and that's basically it.
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No it doesn't. It means that you are one of the players that a select group of people, some of whom have limited football knowledge and using a methodology that only they are aware of, deem to be the best.
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It's a relevant question because the readership of BF is skewered towards the under 30's, so many wouldn't have footy before the early 1990's. I sometomes wonder about the validity of some posters opinions !
FWIW - I rate Kouta as a better player than Richardson - Not by much - But there seems to be negativity about Kouta's selection.
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McLeod a fitting inductee, legend of the game. Johnson and Richo to a lesser extent. The rest, meh.
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