Training 2015/16 preseason training (discussion)
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Yeah I had a look around and I think I made it up. Carry on!
I dropped in briefly this morning. Spend most of my time watching the defensive group near the goals at the northern end and resisting the temptation to follow the brights light big city vibe of the mids and forwards as I usually do.
Focused a lot on Smith, Collins, Ueber, Hughes, Tucker and Grey.
There was some conjecture about how tall Hughes is here at some point. He's not as tall as Ueber, Collins or Tanner (who are all around the same height) but he's taller than Grey or Tucker.
I really like watching Hughes, he has the effortless grace I admire in athletes. His judgement and the way he goes for marks makes it look easy and his kicking is plenty good for AFL. I'd be really surprised if he doesn't get a start this year at some point. I would actually prefer him to Sheridan as he's bigger and lacks nothing in skill by comparison.
Collins and Ueber are very promising. They are both big strong boys and both move beautifully and kick the ball well.
Smith was actually ok today. A few of his trademark awful handballs and kicks but most of it was pretty tidy and he does mark well.
Grey seems to be back in terms of his disposal, he cuffed a couple of kicks today but nothing like he was a while back where he seemed to have lost his radar completely.
Tucker is just no fuss and tidy although he does have a slightly awkward ball drop at times. His kicking is very accurate though. He looks plug and play.
Off the rest Sutty was a standout with his kicking today, they are all trying to kick it like Guerra these days and Sutty does it best. Hard, low & flat.
Weller's kicking was also to a high standard today.
Blakely was one who was supposedly a suss kick but all that I saw were low and flat and accurate.
Couldn't stay long today so thats all I've got for now.
Focused a lot on Smith, Collins, Ueber, Hughes, Tucker and Grey.
There was some conjecture about how tall Hughes is here at some point. He's not as tall as Ueber, Collins or Tanner (who are all around the same height) but he's taller than Grey or Tucker.
I really like watching Hughes, he has the effortless grace I admire in athletes. His judgement and the way he goes for marks makes it look easy and his kicking is plenty good for AFL. I'd be really surprised if he doesn't get a start this year at some point. I would actually prefer him to Sheridan as he's bigger and lacks nothing in skill by comparison.
Collins and Ueber are very promising. They are both big strong boys and both move beautifully and kick the ball well.
Smith was actually ok today. A few of his trademark awful handballs and kicks but most of it was pretty tidy and he does mark well.
Grey seems to be back in terms of his disposal, he cuffed a couple of kicks today but nothing like he was a while back where he seemed to have lost his radar completely.
Tucker is just no fuss and tidy although he does have a slightly awkward ball drop at times. His kicking is very accurate though. He looks plug and play.
Off the rest Sutty was a standout with his kicking today, they are all trying to kick it like Guerra these days and Sutty does it best. Hard, low & flat.
Weller's kicking was also to a high standard today.
Blakely was one who was supposedly a suss kick but all that I saw were low and flat and accurate.
Couldn't stay long today so thats all I've got for now.
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Great Report E Shed but did you see what Nyhuis was doing as I couldnt pick up where he was playing certainly not with Forwards at the Old dudes end.He should have been with the Defenders.
Just for info Langdon was doing Rehab stuff today as he has been out for a week with the flu.
He does look awkward...but then you watch the ball and it spears to where he wants it to go...
Nyhuis with the defenders. Forgot to mention him. He made a few clangers today, missing kicks and dropped some marks. Not his best day.
See above re Nyhuis. Yes saw Langdon running laps.
Yes I had to ignore the process and watch the result. He kicks beautifully over 40M or more too. Great judgement.
Dawson was funny today. Doing to keep it off drill where they have to move it around by foot over short distance while others pressure, a couple of his kicks missed everything and went over people's heads. If he's working on his offence its not going well. I'm one of those who think he earns his pay by his defensive efforts and the rest is just the price of admission.
One think I forgot to mention before. Lachie Neale's kicking looks to have improved a lot. He's kicking it much flatter and very accurate. Not sure if he has a left yet though.
DeBoer is the other one who has seriously improved his short game. He still kicks a bit loopy on the run when he has to get it on the boot quickly but its better.
E Shed, do you think we have enough players developing to replace our best 22 footballers nearing,
over thirty, to cover for retirements, etc.
Interesting exercise in seeing who will replace who, we seem to be judged by others that we are an
old team, and are on the way down.
Yep, that's why I said "surprise".
It sounds like Mundy & Hill will fill those spots first and foremost - which would give you an indication of the caliber needed to assess our current shortcomings in this area, with a view to more and more names elsewhere being able to rotate through the middle.
Yep, correct. Harley comes in to the midfield. Weller/Langdon type steps up. Sheridan/D.Pearce might get squeezed out (but I doubt it) if not de Boer or Suban.
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He's a gun and ready to go. Will be in that side before the middle of the year, unless we get a great run with injuries/results.
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There are a few ahead of Darcy like Sheridan and Sutcliffe, Hughes, Langdon and Weller but the issue is where do we play them all as not that many spots are up for grabs. RTB did talk about him in the Robbo interview but he has done that in the past with others such as Brady grey Apeness and Lngdon and Weller but it was quite a while into the respective season before they got a run. Maybe from what RTB and his coaches have learnt about our personnel he mightn't stay with some of the older types. Who Knows?
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I've seen Tucker twice at training now and I really like what I see but no way on earth is he getting anything more than token games this season.
You would think that Weller, Langdon & Blakley will be will ahead in the que for games? This time last year both Blakely & Weller were super impressive on the track but went on to play a few games. Ideally Tucker will get a game or two to show him what AFL is all about, then lock him away to work on his game like Blakley & co have?
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I reckon Collins is a strong chance to get a few games based on nothing but my gut and own opinion. Just seems ready to plug and play. But there are quite a few young fellas on the list to get excited about.
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Thanks for the report big E-zy. Anything more on my boy Uber? What's his one on one stuff like as a defender? Who would you liken him to in the AFL? Any chance he could swing forward usefully?
I guess the biggest problem is you can't replace players like Pav & Sandi as they are giants of the game. Sandi literally & Pav by deeds. Those kind of guys are future hall of famers.
Johnson is the next hardest as he's so unique in his skills & size.
Also Sandi & Jonno took a long time to reach the lofty levels they play at now, remember when Jonno was pilloried for being soft & his disposal was erratic? Sandi took a long time too.
Other than them we are pretty well placed.
The 2008 crop have plenty of years left & we've done ok the last couple of years. There were a few pretty ordinary years at the draft but the likes of Sutcliffe & Neale & A Pearce make up for the bad luck of Pitt & Simpson.
I'm still not certain Sheridan & Crozier will be anything special but I'm sold on Blakely, Weller as probable A graders.
Hughes & Grey can play, Ueber & Collins could be the best tall prospects we've had for a while, Hurley may surprise.
Tucker looks to be competent & I have high hopes for Balic.
Time will tell as ever but I can't see us dropping away completely to be uncompetitive with the young talent in the shed.
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He looks to be still finding his feet to me. Just getting used to being in the main group & learning the drills. Hasn't stood out for me but early days.
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Do the people that go to training generally just live or work in the area or do some actually make a specific trip across to have a look?
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