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Gutted not to go up but the better team on the day won. Hopefully with a bit of investment of some new players going into the next season we will finally go up.

We had great support last night, unlike Hull with almost 20,000 empty seats was utterly pathetic. The FA should of had Hull's middle bays open to possibly reallocate because we would have sold another 15,000 seats if it would have been possible to segregate the supporters of each club.
 
Gutted not to go up but the better team on the day won. Hopefully with a bit of investment of some new players going into the next season we will finally go up.

We had great support last night, unlike Hull with almost 20,000 empty seats was utterly pathetic. The FA should of had Hull's middle bays open to possibly reallocate because we would have sold another 15,000 seats if it would have been possible to segregate the supporters of each club.

It wasn't pathetic, there were a lot of reasons behind it, and in a lot of ways is something to be proud of that people were strong enough in their principles to stand up to the bullies at the club.
 
It wasn't pathetic, there were a lot of reasons behind it, and in a lot of ways is something to be proud of that people were strong enough in their principles to stand up to the bullies at the club.
Who cares mate. People will talk shit regardless, especially when they are on the losing side. Well done on getting back to the big time! Poddy should be fun now. Didn't want an angry and sad SM.
 
Who cares mate. People will talk shit regardless, especially when they are on the losing side. Well done on getting back to the big time! Poddy should be fun now. Didn't want an angry and sad SM.

I might clear the air once and for all on the poddy and then just leave the issue. People can think what they want after that.
 
It wasn't pathetic, there were a lot of reasons behind it, and in a lot of ways is something to be proud of that people were strong enough in their principles to stand up to the bullies at the club.

regardless of whatever the off field issues is, it was a terrible turn out for a final to get into to the PL. The FA should have allocated 30,000 to each club to start with and had a second allocation of the remaining tickets to where the demand is. That aside enjoy the win and good luck next season, hopefully we will see you up there the season after.
 
regardless of whatever the off field issues is, it was a terrible turn out for a final to get into to the PL. The FA should have allocated 30,000 to each club to start with and had a second allocation of the remaining tickets to where the demand is. That aside enjoy the win and good luck next season, hopefully we will see you up there the season after.

Why regardless? You think people should just desert their principles for the sake of flashing their knickers for PL money? As I've already said it was a combination of people not going all season (we sold 18k more tickets than our average attendance), people going to the Hull FC match stupidly scheduled at the same time (12k attendance for that) and the fact our ticket office didn't start selling until the Thursday.
 
Yeah you should clear this up on the poddy because to me it's not making much sense.

Fans prepared to boycott the club for a whole season sound more like fans who don't give a crap about football to be honest. But Hull has always had the problem of being a Rugby League town first and football one second.
 
Yeah you should clear this up on the poddy because to me it's not making much sense.

Fans prepared to boycott the club for a whole season sound more like fans who don't give a crap about football to be honest. But Hull has always had the problem of being a Rugby League town first and football one second.

Way off the mark. If a fan is prepared to boycott all season does that not show a strength of conviction and principles? The owners have run the club into the ground off the field with their management and PR. If Levy was disrespecting your fans, telling them they could die when they wanted, raising season tickets significantly despite relegation, then proposing to move all season ticket holders to cheap areas of the ground and stripping their concessions, I would think you would protest it. A lot vowed at the start of the season to stay away until the Allams left. I don't think that indicates they prefer Rugby League at all. If that doesn't make sense to you then I don't know what to say. A lot of people in Hull have been hurting for a very long time now (well, relatively speaking).
 

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Well now SM has explained what the chairman has actually been up to then I understand it more now - and I would back the fans if he did say and do those things.

Not sure about the other excuses though. The Rugby League double booking was unfortunate but you would expect a Play Off final to take precedence
 
So it's been a season long protest and not just this week?

If so good on them. No point bandwagonning on at the end

Precisely. We averaged less than we did in League 2 this season.
 
Well now SM has explained what the chairman has actually been up to then I understand it more now - and I would back the fans if he did say and do those things.

Not sure about the other excuses though. The Rugby League double booking was unfortunate but you would expect a Play Off final to take precedence

Yeah I don't think the Rugby League had a huge impact to be honest - think there was a clash for the FA Cup final and that was fine. The ticket office not opening until Thursday - again not sure how big an impact that had. Think the vast majority (90%) of the unsold tickets would be due to people deliberately staying away.
 
How boring, two of the relegated clubs bounced back into the PL.

But nah, congrats to Hull for getting past the dreaded playoff final to make it back in. You certainly had more than enough to see Wednesday past. Let's hope this time you can correct that May record and consolidate yourself in the new era. Yorkshire needs to show the league who properly bought out the English game.

And what's this talk about Rugby? Didn't you know a 'Rugby' Town won the league this season (Union instead of League, mind.) Then again... I think it's amazing exactly how much of an impact the Premier League has on places. The income from PL clubs visiting has a good impact on the town economy as much as the club itself. I wonder how much towns like Bournemouth and Stoke have benefited from PL money.
 
Even with the protest, I'd still like to go see my side play in the biggest game of the season.

Take out the Hull thing for a second, it was bloody disappointing to see one side of the ground full and the other, well you know.
 
Even with the protest, I'd still like to go see my side play in the biggest game of the season.

Take out the Hull thing for a second, it was bloody disappointing to see one side of the ground full and the other, well you know.

That's the issue though, some people don't want to look fair weather like that. Being principled is easy when you're forgoing trips to Brentford and Preston North End, but you show your true colours when it comes to games at Wembley.

Oh for sure, as a neutral it looks crap. As a Hull supporter though, knowing the context, it didn't bother me in the slightest though. If they'd been able to segregate us properly and give Wednesday the extra seats I'd have been all for it.
 
That's the issue though, some people don't want to look fair weather like that. Being principled is easy when you're forgoing trips to Brentford and Preston North End, but you show your true colours when it comes to games at Wembley.

Oh for sure, as a neutral it looks crap. As a Hull supporter though, knowing the context, it didn't bother me in the slightest though. If they'd been able to segregate us properly and give Wednesday the extra seats I'd have been all for it.
But missing the game on the weekend doesn't hurt Allam much at all, does it? At the end of the day, Hull (the club) an it's supporters were the ones that looked average out of the whole thing (as in publicity wise). It's more likely to impact the players than the owner. Luckily, it didn't matter in the end but you essentially turned the game into an away fixture just based on crowd numbers. All's well that ends well though.

Curiously, do you feel negatively (fair weather fans etc) towards those that did turn up because of the game?
 
But missing the game on the weekend doesn't hurt Allam much at all, does it? At the end of the day, Hull (the club) an it's supporters were the ones that looked average out of the whole thing (as in publicity wise). It's more likely to impact the players than the owner. Luckily, it didn't matter in the end but you essentially turned the game into an away fixture just based on crowd numbers. All's well that ends well though.

Curiously, do you feel negatively (fair weather fans etc) towards those that did turn up because of the game?

The Allams will be very aware of the feelings of the supporters, particularly the boos that rang out as soon as Ehab touched the trophy. They're wavering on whether to sell the club, so any and all clear protest is still necessary.

It's going to have had no impact on the players mate, they won't have given a toss. If you mean it might make them want to leave the club, then that's also a bit silly as the players are very well aware of the supporters' issues, and many have sided with the supporters' (their use of the hashtag on #hcafc being the most overt).

The only people this impacts on are the owners, as it reflects how poorly they must be running the club for the supporters to stay away. All local, and many national journalists are accurately reporting on the empty seats, with several fantastic and scathing articles (directed at the owners) have been published in the last few days.

I don't feel negatively towards those that turned up that have turned up all season, and the fair weather ones going are not surprising. But that's like asking if you feel bad about the fair weathers trying to buy tickets to your title winning game against Everton. I feel nothing towards them one way or the other. It's expected, and most of them probably aren't even City fans anyway.
 
This is probably the best one I've seen: http://www.football365.com/news/hull-empty-seats-ask-yourself-why

This one also points the finger at the owners: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...e-club-s-big-day-overshadowed-mass-seats.html

Another national paper who are very clear about who is to blame: http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foot...effield-wednesday-s-trip-to-wembley-1-7937380

etc. etc.

I haven't seen a single article blaming the club itself (not entirely sure what you even meant by that as it's impossible to differentiate owners from the club) or the supporter base.
 
Just one thing I should note: The ticket sales do go to the losing team in the playoffs. So while it wouldn't bother Hull much if they lost, Wednesday got jibbed because Hull didn't fill out their allocation.

I think you can understand why Wednesday are quite peeved at Hull fans.
 
Just one thing I should note: The ticket sales do go to the losing team in the playoffs. So while it wouldn't bother Hull much if they lost, Wednesday got jibbed because Hull didn't fill out their allocation.

I think you can understand why Wednesday are quite peeved at Hull fans.

They can be peeved all they want.
 
I think it looked like a bad reflection on Hull - like they are not a club with a big following. Obviously as SM has explained there are reasons behind it, but unfortunately for Hull the casual, neutral fan watching isn't going to know that background and context and would have gone away thinking Hull are a small time club.

The important thing though is they are back in the prem, and perhaps now the owner will sell as he can get a better price and the club can move forward
 

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