Teams 2019 My RDT Team: H&A

[Tex Danger]

I hope you're right, as he will become a wonderful forward upgrade providing ruck cover as well. At this stage he is an upgrade target for me though.

Im hoping he starts slow while Dixon is out, hopeful he has to spend more time as a forward target (I know port people have said that won't necessarily thee case but its my hope from a fantasy perspective)

Then people will think, see I told you he would drop and write him off as a top 6 option but if he gets then freed up with Dixon return he could be a great upgrade either before the byes (won't share his bye with too many premium options) or right off his bye, depending on the timing of the role change.

I know these kind of hopes/plans never unfold though!

 

[melanChronic]

Im hoping he starts slow while Dixon is out, hopeful he has to spend more time as a forward target (I know port people have said that won't necessarily thee case but its my hope from a fantasy perspective)

Then people will think, see I told you he would drop and write him off as a top 6 option but if he gets then freed up with Dixon return he could be a great upgrade either before the byes (won't share his bye with too many premium options) or right off his bye, depending on the timing of the role change.

I know these kind of hopes/plans never unfold though!

I agree with you on this one. He won't play all forward, but will spend stints there early. My opinion is he'll drop down into that Tom Lynch (ADE) range where he's handy at F6/F7 and will have a few monster scores but will struggle to be in the top 10 forwards. They'll have similar roles in our respective sides I think-- Watts looks to be taking up the wing/defence duties that Westhoff might've had in the past.

The other handy thing about waiting is that Lycett has the potential to become the more attractive FWD/RUC option if he's playing mainly as our first ruck workhorse, with Paddy to come in and dominate a tired opposition.

 

[dylan123]

He'll score far more running around on a wing this year collecting +6s than he ever will as a makeshift ruckman.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong as you'll have clearly watched a lot more of Port than I have but hasn't he had a role along that sorts for years? Kind of 3rd tall fwd/wing who can float back? Does it really change that much this year? Seems like Watts will also get a run on the wing, kind of hard to see them being both the wingman.

If he has, you might be thinking the 6-6-6 helps him more. So curious if it's the rule or you think it's more wing time then he's had in the past. Just see hitouts and tackle numbers taking a hit.

All in all, 'worst' case is he does drop around 10 points in average, that's still up there as a forward premium so if you're looking to save a bit of cash in the ruck or a little unsure on one of them, he's not a bad option with the ability to push him forward once you're comfortable to take one of the big two you passed on (or someone else that makes the jump).

 

[DaTBird187]

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong as you'll have clearly watched a lot more of Port than I have but hasn't he had a role along that sorts for years? Kind of 3rd tall fwd/wing who can float back? Does it really change that much this year? Seems like Watts will also get a run on the wing, kind of hard to see them being both the wingman.

If he has, you might be thinking the 6-6-6 helps him more. So curious if it's the rule or you think it's more wing time then he's had in the past. Just see hitouts and tackle numbers taking a hit.

All in all, 'worst' case is he does drop around 10 points in average, that's still up there as a forward premium so if you're looking to save a bit of cash in the ruck or a little unsure on one of them, he's not a bad option with the ability to push him forward once you're comfortable to take one of the big two you passed on (or someone else that makes the jump).

With Ryder, Lycett, Dixon, Marshall he'll have less of a need to be plonked in the forward line. His ability to roam anywhere will be enhanced I feel. He's a total evergreen and will most likely play until he's in his mid to late 30s. He runs all day and I can see him being a link up man.

Rucking wasn't the reason he won our B&F last year.

 

[Tex Danger]

With Ryder, Lycett, Dixon, Marshall he'll have less of a need to be plonked in the forward line. His ability to roam anywhere will be enhanced I feel. He's a total evergreen and will most likely play until he's in his mid to late 30s. He runs all day and I can see him being a link up man.

Rucking wasn't the reason he won our B&F last year.

Problem I see there is though is of those 4 - 1 of Lycett/Ryder will be in Ruck, Dixon is missing for a while yet, so leaves only the resting ruckman and Marshall as the tall forward options. I can definitely see forward time early for Hoff then increasing his scoring significantly win Dixon is back

 

[go you pups]

Doesn't look good for Balta it seems, Richmond announced Lynch would play but silent on Balta

Hopefully Geelong tell us about Constable, Clark and Atkins tomorrow before teams for PR

Waiting on say Parker, Scott and Hore too

Doubt Scrimshaw plays

Walsh
Setterfield
Gibbons
Burgess
Collins
B Smith
Rozee
Drew
Butters
Duursma

All confirmed though

 

[Coinz]

Macrae & Dom Sheed
VS
Merret & Sloane/BCrouch

Go

 

[Pea Nut]

Macrae & Dom Sheed
VS
Merret & Sloane/BCrouch

Go

Second one unless you have balls of steel. Sheed has tempted many and looked on the verge of a breakout for a couple of years and just not delivered.

 

[Coinz]

Second one unless you have balls of steel. Sheed has tempted many and looked on the verge of a breakout for a couple of years and just not delivered.

My balls are made out of liquid... alot of it.

 

[Bandicoot]

Petrocelli vs Burgess.
Both probably to score in the 30s

 

[go you pups]

Petrocelli vs Burgess.
Both probably to score in the 30s

Burgess every day of the week

Has job security, mature ager

Just make sure he's on the pine

Feel he'll have one game where he scores a 80-90 though and takes a few marks inbetween the 35s 40s 50s etc. That one high score is the one we let him moo on, hopefully that score comes in like round 4 or 5 or something. We play Gold Coast round 3, if he scores ok against St Kilda then I might roll the dice with him that particular week against us.

Petruccelle hasn't been anywhere near it in the 3 games he's played. He really should have had solid tackle numbers in his small forward role and not even be relevant (be 250-300k etc). Would only pick him if I absolutely had to.

 

[melanChronic]

I have Brodie Smith in my back line at the moment, against my better judgement. Can't help but feel he is gonna Hack Jones 2017 me all over again... Jones averaged 80 that year and he was horrible to have in my backline as many on here can attest to. Smith seems to have found his level at around 80. Are we all walking into that trap again?

The only consolidation is the new kick out rules, and that Adelaide have a good draw. If I were to ditch him it would mean 3 rookies on field in the backline, which is unwise considering the JS of Clark, Duursma, Hore and Scrimshaw.

Roberton really was the perfect D4, and my structure still reflects this unfortunately (Smith came in for him after the Saints JLT2).

 

[Pea Nut]

I have Brodie Smith in my back line at the moment, against my better judgement. Can't help but feel he is gonna Hack Jones 2017 me all over again... Jones averaged 80 that year and he was horrible to have in my backline as many on here can attest to. Smith seems to have found his level at around 80. Are we all walking into that trap again?

The only consolidation is the new kick out rules, and that Adelaide have a good draw. If I were to ditch him it would mean 3 rookies on field in the backline, which is unwise considering the JS of Clark, Duursma, Hore and Scrimshaw.

Roberton really was the perfect D4, and my structure still reflects this unfortunately (Smith came in for him after the Saints JLT2).

Most wouldn't be taking Smith as a keeper though. He's a money making option as a number of rookies look like they are gonna punch out plenty of sub standard scores. Smith's ownership is now at 50% so it's actually an option to pass on him as a point of difference if you can structure your back line without him. I actually don't mind the look without him there.

 

[go you pups]

I have Brodie Smith in my back line at the moment, against my better judgement. Can't help but feel he is gonna Hack Jones 2017 me all over again... Jones averaged 80 that year and he was horrible to have in my backline as many on here can attest to. Smith seems to have found his level at around 80. Are we all walking into that trap again?

The only consolidation is the new kick out rules, and that Adelaide have a good draw. If I were to ditch him it would mean 3 rookies on field in the backline, which is unwise considering the JS of Clark, Duursma, Hore and Scrimshaw.

Roberton really was the perfect D4, and my structure still reflects this unfortunately (Smith came in for him after the Saints JLT2).

I remember Brad melting about Jones that year regularly, but half the melts from him was from slow starts, then Jones would junk his way to respectable 80s/90s

 

[go you pups]

Most wouldn't be taking Smith as a keeper though. He's a money making option as a number of rookies look like they are gonna punch out plenty of sub standard scores. Smith's ownership is now at 50% so it's actually an option to pass on him as a point of difference if you can structure your back line without him. I actually don't mind the look without him there.

I can't see how you can't have Smith in now if Scrimshaw and a few other rookies don't get up

Would have to take Hanley or Moore or some other midpricer, otherwise you'd be cutting into forwards or rucks

 

[Pea Nut]

I can't see how you can't have Smith in now if Scrimshaw and a few other rookies don't get up

Would have to take Hanley or Moore or some other midpricer, otherwise you'd be cutting into forwards or rucks

Quite easily. 3 premos, both Rozee and Duursma, Clark, Hore, Collins, Burgess.

 

[go you pups]

Quite easily. 3 premos, both Rozee and Duursma, Clark, Hore, Collins, Burgess.

That's really really weak though, same as only going three forwards deep but defensive rookies have better JS than the forwards it seems and there's still more defensive rookies around

Duursma and Clark are the only two who could average 60 regularly there

Rozee historically has been a low possession type, can't see him going above 55, would only pick him to have a swing with Burgess if you're worried about JS on both lines.

Collins and Burgess will have the odd game where they score well, but it'll be few and far between 40s and 50s, 30s even.

Hore, who knows, seems he has the weakest JS here, D8 only I think for now.

Real lottery at D6 not going 4 deep down back

 

[Pea Nut]

That's really really weak though, same as only going three forwards deep but defensive rookies have better JS than the forwards it seems and there's still more defensive rookies around

Duursma and Clark are the only two who could average 60 regularly there

Rozee historically has been a low possession type, can't see him going above 55, would only pick him to have a swing with Burgess if you're worried about JS on both lines.

Collins and Burgess will have the odd game where they score well, but it'll be few and far between 40s and 50s, 30s even.

Hore, who knows, seems he has the weakest JS here, D8 only I think for now.

Real lottery at D6 not going 4 deep down back

Only playing devils advocate, but I think Rozee will average 60, and if Smith is only punching out 70s, you're miles ahead without him. Smith needs to be scoring a bunch of very good scores early to make it worthwhile taking him.

 

[idmfts]

F3 is killing me. Narrowed it down to Boak v Hoff. Don’t trust Bevo on Dunkley, their midfield depth is very good and the forward line is thin.

 

[Pea Nut]

F3 is killing me. Narrowed it down to Boak v Hoff. Don’t trust Bevo on Dunkley, their midfield depth is very good and the forward line is thin.

I think Boak is value. And I agree with you on Dunkley, hard to trust where they will play him and they might move the magnets around early with Libba back. I just don't see Hoff repeating his scoring of last year and will be available cheaper, but is also the best back up ruck option with ruc/fwd eligibility. Boak for mine.

 

[go you pups]

Only playing devils advocate, but I think Rozee will average 60, and if Smith is only punching out 70s, you're miles ahead without him. Smith needs to be scoring a bunch of very good scores early to make it worthwhile taking him.

Feel Smith is good enough for D6-7 though, so not too bothered if it is only 70s he's punching out considering his price and ownership. He would provide stability also until his bye, even if his scores won't be as high as expected. I remember some of the top teams over the years have persisted with maxed out midpricers in the middle to long term instead of moving them on for an early upgrade. They've moved on rookies first then either held these midpricers as say D6-F6 or D7-F7 all year or moved them on on their bye. Examples of the last 3-4 years being Lumumba that year he was at Melbourne, think it was 2015 and alot of top teams moved him on on his bye that year and WHE, Jones and Roughy in 2017. The winner in 2017 had Roughy all year for example.

Rozee only averaged low 60s apparently last year in SANFL, talented kid but will take a long time to come along regarding consistent accumulation imo, wouldn't surprise me if he ends up like a Ben Long type of scorer around that 45-50 range. I feel his DPP is making him relevant, that's all. I'd pick Lukosius instead if he were much cheaper, but at his price McCarthy is available who should be around 55-60 too.

 

[Bandicoot]

Burgess every day of the week

Has job security, mature ager

Just make sure he's on the pine

Feel he'll have one game where he scores a 80-90 though and takes a few marks inbetween the 35s 40s 50s etc. That one high score is the one we let him moo on, hopefully that score comes in like round 4 or 5 or something. We play Gold Coast round 3, if he scores ok against St Kilda then I might roll the dice with him that particular week against us.

Petruccelle hasn't been anywhere near it in the 3 games he's played. He really should have had solid tackle numbers in his small forward role and not even be relevant (be 250-300k etc). Would only pick him if I absolutely had to.

Thanks pups,
Since I asked this I have traded out a premium defender in order to bring Boak into the forward line. Have Setterfield as F6 and Drew as F7 which now leaves F8 as either Parker or Burgess?

 

[Bandicoot]

Feel Smith is good enough for D6-7 though, so not too bothered if it is only 70s he's punching out considering his price and ownership. He would provide stability also until his bye, even if his scores won't be as high as expected. I remember some of the top teams over the years have persisted with maxed out midpricers in the middle to long term instead of moving them on for an early upgrade. They've moved on rookies first then either held these midpricers as say D6-F6 or D7-F7 all year or moved them on on their bye. Examples of the last 3-4 years being Lumumba that year he was at Melbourne, think it was 2015 and alot of top teams moved him on on his bye that year and WHE, Jones and Roughy in 2017. The winner in 2017 had Roughy all year for example.

Rozee only averaged low 60s apparently last year in SANFL, talented kid but will take a long time to come along regarding consistent accumulation imo, wouldn't surprise me if he ends up like a Ben Long type of scorer around that 45-50 range. I feel his DPP is making him relevant, that's all. I'd pick Lukosius instead if he were much cheaper, but at his price McCarthy is available who should be around 55-60 too.

Thanks pups,
Since I asked this I have traded out a premium defender in order to bring Boak into the forward line. Have Setterfield as F6 and Drew as F7 which now leaves F8 as either Parker or Burgess?

Now that Balta has been named, he may be a better option than either. We were all concerned that Balta would be dropped when Lynch came in but that has not proved to be the case.

 

[go you pups]

Now that Balta has been named, he may be a better option than either. We were all concerned that Balta would be dropped when Lynch came in but that has not proved to be the case.

Interesting

No fanfare for him, weird PR

 

[Bandicoot]

I have Brodie Smith in my back line at the moment, against my better judgement. Can't help but feel he is gonna Hack Jones 2017 me all over again... Jones averaged 80 that year and he was horrible to have in my backline as many on here can attest to. Smith seems to have found his level at around 80. Are we all walking into that trap again?

The only consolidation is the new kick out rules, and that Adelaide have a good draw. If I were to ditch him it would mean 3 rookies on field in the backline, which is unwise considering the JS of Clark, Duursma, Hore and Scrimshaw.

Roberton really was the perfect D4, and my structure still reflects this unfortunately (Smith came in for him after the Saints JLT2).

Don't see how you can possibly be unhappy with a defender who is likely to score around 80 or more when you are only paying 54 for him. Once he's reached his peak you then use him as a stepping stone to an elite.