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I was just having a lfick through the RDT pre-season threads and I found it interesting that they've transitioned to a full rolling lockout this year, SuperCoach style.

The reasoning from their development app was that they noticed the majority of users were active on the app over the weekend checking scores so may as well give them the capability to make changes if they feel like it.

A rolling lockout would undoubedtly drive more players to the site and app over the weekend that already are present, thus increasing add revenue for the company surely.

In light of this fact, do we think it is inevtiable that Fantasy will go the same route and how would you feel about it?
 

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looking at highest priced starters each year assuming the dtlive data is accurate and my quick look is ok.
from 2014 - 18... the number of highest priced starters that went on to be seasons end highest ave with 17+games

def (6) 3,1,4,3,4
mid (8) 2,2,2,2,2
ruc (2) 0,1,1,1,1
fwd (6) 3,3,3,3,3

a few seasons end highest ave's come from smokies with 100k plus upsides but the majority appear to be natural progression from being near the top end and being 30-80k improvers.
 
FlowersByIrene said:
I was just having a lfick through the RDT pre-season threads and I found it interesting that they've transitioned to a full rolling lockout this year, SuperCoach style.

The reasoning from their development app was that they noticed the majority of users were active on the app over the weekend checking scores so may as well give them the capability to make changes if they feel like it.

A rolling lockout would undoubedtly drive more players to the site and app over the weekend that already are present, thus increasing add revenue for the company surely.

In light of this fact, do we think it is inevtiable that Fantasy will go the same route and how would you feel about it?
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keep it simple as possible i reckon to cater for the time poor enthusiasts.
 
Cotchy9 said:
With the extra space 6-6-6 is bringing, Macrae could really benefit as he loves a +6
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No doubt Macrae will still be one of the top guys come season end, my worry is what the return of Lib does to the entire dogs midfield. Have already seen both Mclean and Dunkley play forward roles in JLT. For me almost every relevant player at dogs is a wait and see currently. I do think the 6-6-6 rules are exaggerated a little though as the only time they are in play is the centre bounces. It's business as usual outside of those
 
FlowersByIrene said:
I was just having a lfick through the RDT pre-season threads and I found it interesting that they've transitioned to a full rolling lockout this year, SuperCoach style.

The reasoning from their development app was that they noticed the majority of users were active on the app over the weekend checking scores so may as well give them the capability to make changes if they feel like it.

A rolling lockout would undoubedtly drive more players to the site and app over the weekend that already are present, thus increasing add revenue for the company surely.

In light of this fact, do we think it is inevtiable that Fantasy will go the same route and how would you feel about it?
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I hope not
That is the reason I am focusing on AFL Fantasy this year, not RDT

I like the idea of madly panicking on Friday afternoon to get your side right then just letting it go over the weekend
 
VSTone said:
looking at highest priced starters each year assuming the dtlive data is accurate and my quick look is ok.
from 2014 - 18... the number of highest priced starters that went on to be seasons end highest ave with 17+games

def (6) 3,1,4,3,4
mid (8) 2,2,2,2,2
ruc (2) 0,1,1,1,1
fwd (6) 3,3,3,3,3

a few seasons end highest ave's come from smokies with 100k plus upsides but the majority appear to be natural progression from being near the top end and being 30-80k improvers.
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That's pretty interesting. Notably what happens in the midfield. So every year for the last 5 years only 2 of the top 8 mids have stayed in there? Using that info, would be interesting to see who out of the top 8 this year are around come seasons end. We already know Titchell is gone. But hard to say a lot of them dropping. Good info :thumbsupemoji:
 
Sloane4brownlow said:
That's one argument. The other is if Macrae in your side then you have a captain locked for the entire season who is a very good chance to top score in overall points for the year.

Yes Coniglio/Treloar/Brayshaw etc may all be similar to Macrae on their day, but as consistent? No one rivalled Macrae last year. If it happens again the car is gone for anyone without him R1.

Set and forget.
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Fair. Nothing wrong with that approach either.

I would hesistate to say that if he begins well the car is gone for anyone without him though. Selby started without Titch last year and then watched in horror as he started the season like a bomb and (I think) ended up getting him in even higher than his starting price only to watch him go ~70 the week he got him.

Probably silly comparing we mortals to Selby though :drunk:
 
mezaire said:
Don't know about that.
Plays the following and my predictions for his scores;
Sydney; fairly high chance he'll get a tag from Hewitt (105)
Hawthorn; have tagged in the past and with a more inexperienced midfield may throw someone on him to gain experience (125)
Gold Coast; Probably not and scored 155 on them last year, but Miller has tagged in the past (130)
Collingwood: Tried Greenwood on him last year and he still got 113, but tough midfield to play against (100)

SO my prediction is a 115 average which will see him drop about $100k by round 6.
Personally I think he will come back to the field a little this year and there might even be 1 or 2 other players who average as much as him.
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I honestly hope you are right about this because that seems the ideal scenario for Macrae non-owners. I don't plan on starting Macrae but I just said that if you have cash left over, it is not a bad idea to just lock in Macrae from the start. I personally see him going really big against Sydney and GC. Like I said a few weeks ago, I doubt Hewett just starts tagging from the first bounce. With JPK on the decline, Hewett becomes one of our most important ball winners. Even guys like Zorko have a few rounds to dominate before being tagged. No doubt Macrae will drop in price but it may take a while before we can actually afford to get him in. The points you miss out on do add up slowly. Last year, all it took was 3 rounds of 140s for Macrae to split the competition, those who didn't have him found it really hard to break into the top 1000. If he drops 100k by round 6 that's great but he's still going to be bloody hard to actually trade in. There's guaranteed to be injuries, spud rookies and god forbid spud premos to fix up. Before you know it, you've gone half the season without the no1 scorer.

Suffered through this all last year and will do it again this year. Hope your predictions are right though, ideally we need him to have a score in the 80s early on.
 
FlowersByIrene said:
I was just having a lfick through the RDT pre-season threads and I found it interesting that they've transitioned to a full rolling lockout this year, SuperCoach style.

The reasoning from their development app was that they noticed the majority of users were active on the app over the weekend checking scores so may as well give them the capability to make changes if they feel like it.

A rolling lockout would undoubedtly drive more players to the site and app over the weekend that already are present, thus increasing add revenue for the company surely.

In light of this fact, do we think it is inevtiable that Fantasy will go the same route and how would you feel about it?
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This has greatly affected my interest in RDT. I'll still play it but probably won't make changes to my team through the round. It's going to affect my ranking because people who have the time will get a real leg up. It's stressful enough to make my trades before friday lockout, can't imagine having to think about teams all through the weekend. Hope this doesn't get introduced in afl fantasy, I like the simplicity of it currently.
 
It’s amazing how we get caught up in the JLT hype with some players and then go completely opposite with others. Like Merrett is a big unknown with his % dropping big time over the JLT with an interrupted pre season, however is at a great price, and on the flip side Grundy who has also had an interrupted pre season and is super high priced we aren’t questioning his selection Your spending nearly 1.7 million on two positions ( 14%) of your teams salary cap. If he was in any other position on the ground, we wouldn’t be paying that price for him on the back of his JLT.

So many things to consider when we finalising your team before Round 1....
 
DynamiteDons said:
It’s amazing how we get caught up in the JLT hype with some players and then go completely opposite with others. Like Merrett is a big unknown with his % dropping big time over the JLT with an interrupted pre season, however is at a great price, and on the flip side Grundy who has also had an interrupted pre season and is super high priced we aren’t questioning his selection. If he was in any other position on the ground, we wouldn’t be paying that price for him on the back of his JLT.

So many things to consider when we have the pre season....


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I think with Grundy is the fact he is far and away the best in his position and there aren't a great deal of options to replace him with. Merrett is competing with about 20 other players of similar value and scoring capacity.

Haven't much liked Grundy's pre season and have been toying not starting with him but his ruck schedule to start the season seems so easy I don't think I'll go ahead with it. Interestingly he also performed poorly last pre season (score-wise) yet went on to be the top ruck
 

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Zevon said:
Fair. Nothing wrong with that approach either.

I would hesistate to say that if he begins well the car is gone for anyone without him though. Selby started without Titch last year and then watched in horror as he started the season like a bomb and (I think) ended up getting him in even higher than his starting price only to watch him go ~70 the week he got him.

Probably silly comparing we mortals to Selby though :drunk:
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That's actually amazing.

I figured whoever wins the car nailed almost everything start to finish :-/ No Titch from R1 seems like a massive oversight to still walk away with the grand prize!

There may be some hope for us yet.
 
My only concern without starting Macrae is how to get him in after the year starts?

Lets say for arguments sake that Macrae is a mere mortal this year and averages ~ 110 for the entire year. That puts him at a price of ~ $800k or dropping in value around $90k overall.

If he gets tagged and has an 80-90 thrown in there at some point he may well dip to high 700's. So lets go with ~$150k drop after say 6-8rounds.

At that point how do you get in a guy still valued at ~$740k. It won't be easy by any means. Sideways trading premos won't be an option. Brouch/Libba for all intents and purposes should still be holding down their spots in most sides. Rookies won't be plump yet for harvesting.

It's a monster leap to make early.

Before you know it, it's round 12+ and you've done half a year without the mighty macca in your side.
 
Sloane4brownlow said:
That's one argument. The other is if Macrae in your side then you have a captain locked for the entire season who is a very good chance to top score in overall points for the year.

Yes Coniglio/Treloar/Brayshaw etc may all be similar to Macrae on their day, but as consistent? No one rivalled Macrae last year. If it happens again the car is gone for anyone without him R1.

Set and forget.
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dude, the winner last year started without Mitchell
 
Sloane4brownlow said:
That's actually amazing.

I figured whoever wins the car nailed almost everything start to finish :-/ No Titch from R1 seems like a massive oversight to still walk away with the grand prize!

There may be some hope for us yet.
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Not to mention he had Billings from the start.
 
I'm kind of leaning towards starting without Grundy rather than without MacRae. Yikes

At 50% ownerships it's a huge leg up if Grundy punches out some 80-100 scores early, in both score and value
 
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Sloane4brownlow said:
My only concern without starting Macrae is how to get him in after the year starts?

Lets say for arguments sake that Macrae is a mere mortal this year and averages ~ 110 for the entire year. That puts him at a price of ~ $800k or dropping in value around $90k overall.

If he gets tagged and has an 80-90 thrown in there at some point he may well dip to high 700's. So lets go with ~$150k drop after say 6-8rounds.

At that point how do you get in a guy still valued at ~$740k. It won't be easy by any means. Sideways trading premos won't be an option. Brouch/Libba for all intents and purposes should still be holding down their spots in most sides. Rookies won't be plump yet for harvesting.

It's a monster leap to make early.

Before you know it, it's round 12+ and you've done half a year without the mighty macca in your side.
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I think we all understand the conundrum.....trouble is how to fit Gawndy, Macca and Danger in the same side.
 
Sloane4brownlow said:
My only concern without starting Macrae is how to get him in after the year starts?

Lets say for arguments sake that Macrae is a mere mortal this year and averages ~ 110 for the entire year. That puts him at a price of ~ $800k or dropping in value around $90k overall.

If he gets tagged and has an 80-90 thrown in there at some point he may well dip to high 700's. So lets go with ~$150k drop after say 6-8rounds.

At that point how do you get in a guy still valued at ~$740k. It won't be easy by any means. Sideways trading premos won't be an option. Brouch/Libba for all intents and purposes should still be holding down their spots in most sides. Rookies won't be plump yet for harvesting.

It's a monster leap to make early.

Before you know it, it's round 12+ and you've done half a year without the mighty macca in your side.
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I know what you're saying and that's definitely got to be taken into consideration. But if you're putting that extra 100k+ to good use and turning a midpricer into a premium, that's arguably saving you a trade which has a cost on it. Not to mention cash gen is usually quite high to start the season so it's not all doom and gloom.

Last year I remember a load of people on this forum jumping on Ed Curnow when he was basically at max price. So a lot of people found a way to do it in those first 6-8 rounds of the season. Can be done, possibly at the detriment of your team, but if you time it right then I guess it gives you a leg up in regards to your team value and all that
 

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