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I reckon Macca will drop in price after the 1st 5 or so rounds, got the Nth and Swans in the 1st 4 rounds. Reckon there's better options than Kelly at his price. So, option 2, but still wary of how quick Neale will adjust to new environment.
A poster on the carlton board who knows him has commented that the surgery kreuzer had to fix the heart issue has rectified the issue completely.
I wouldn't pick him regardless... he finds new ways to get injured every year[/QUOTE]
Reckon it's worth a punt on Kruezer, I have him at R2 at mo but with Westhoff Fwd as insurance and Xerri at R3 for the DPP swing. Reckon Xerri might get an opportunity at Nth with Goldy being on his own. That being said, Goldy is also a good choice at R2.
Bit suss on Rankine playing Fwd at GCS, I would go a cheaper option and upgrade Kelly to a Dunkley or Smith.
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the tag will go to bont and macca will run freely so not worried
Here are my takes on various things I've seen posted this past month. Likely useless but I always appreciate a different perspective and it's far too hard to reply to each comment. Plus I'm drunk.
Gawn will be best R2 this year. But you couldn't do it at his price. Martin, Goldstein, Jacobs are too old. Westhoff role unlikely to remain the same.
Neale will take time to adjust.
Chad Wingard could be the best midpricer this year. 598k but I'll allow it...
Gold Coast 'top up' players will play most games this year. They're on 4 year contracts.
With new rule changes and a lack of premium forwards behind Smith and Danger, the backline will be most critical early on. Let the other forwards prove themselves.
Dunkley won't average over 100. Liberatore, Smith come in. Plus I think MaCrae has his eye on Charlie.
Mitchell isn't a 'must have' but why waste a trade? He's going to be in your team eventually. Goes 120+
Angus Brayshaw gets a tap to the head and he's toast. He killed it this year but is he good enough to start with? I'd like to see more than a year of good fantasy football.
Jackson MacRae betters his 2018 average. He wants a Charlie and hes an absolute seagull for the pill.
Josh Kelly is a top 5 fantasy player. Comes out of contract next year and there's not denying he has consistency AND ceiling.
Heeney finds more ceiling with Hannerbery gone and JPK aging. Consistent 100 already, why not a small improvement? Hope he finds more ceiling though...
PAFC27 to wake up tomorrow with a sore head.
Gawn will be best R2 this year. But you couldn't do it at his price. Martin, Goldstein, Jacobs are too old. Westhoff role unlikely to remain the same.
Neale will take time to adjust.
Chad Wingard could be the best midpricer this year. 598k but I'll allow it...
Gold Coast 'top up' players will play most games this year. They're on 4 year contracts.
With new rule changes and a lack of premium forwards behind Smith and Danger, the backline will be most critical early on. Let the other forwards prove themselves.
Dunkley won't average over 100. Liberatore, Smith come in. Plus I think MaCrae has his eye on Charlie.
Mitchell isn't a 'must have' but why waste a trade? He's going to be in your team eventually. Goes 120+
Angus Brayshaw gets a tap to the head and he's toast. He killed it this year but is he good enough to start with? I'd like to see more than a year of good fantasy football.
Jackson MacRae betters his 2018 average. He wants a Charlie and hes an absolute seagull for the pill.
Josh Kelly is a top 5 fantasy player. Comes out of contract next year and there's not denying he has consistency AND ceiling.
Heeney finds more ceiling with Hannerbery gone and JPK aging. Consistent 100 already, why not a small improvement? Hope he finds more ceiling though...
PAFC27 to wake up tomorrow with a sore head.
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I think i would go Kelly and Macrae.
Macrae should out average Neale and we know he is a stud and nothing should change that. Hard to know how changing teams will affect Neale, i doubt it will hurt him much if at all, but it does have some risk.
I think Smith will drop a little in price early and should be a good early upgrade option. Kelly should be a safe top 8 or so forward prior to any dpps being added imo.
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I doubt it will have too big of an impact on him, will Lyons even be best 22 every week? Neale and Zorko are the ready made stars and they will want to be getting as much development in to Berry, Rayner, Cluggage etc.
If anything it's just an extra mature body to help out when some of those youngsters start to tire/need some help.
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I hope you are right on Heeney, i have been a massive fan boy of his but jeez last year was frustrating. Not sure if Hannerz going will have much of an impact due to his injury/lack of form last season. But i do think Horse is going to need a step up from the younger guys this year and i hope he is the one to take that next step.
I am not sure i can start with Brayshaw. At his price, with his injury history, losing defender status i'm not sure i can justify it. If he starts well i will bring him in but it is a no from me at this stage.
Macrae 100% lock!
Kelly lock!
Mitchell i'm 50/50 on, i think Clarko is really sick of the over reliance on him and i think he is going to want a step up from others around him.
The point above is why The Chad is 100% a lock for me, i think he will get more mid time and we saw at times this year what he can do when he spends time in the middle. I can't see him going under mid 90's and could be higher. A safe top 10 forward that could be a luxury upgrade late in the season if he doesn't reach his ceiling.
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The importance to starting sides relies on picking the 'right' premium.
A couple years ago we had an example of Heath shaw vs Docherty at the same 101 price in 2016. It was a very tough call i went H.Shaw from memory. He went on to score 804 points less than Docherty that year. Thats a huge point differential and thus ranking differential.
Then you look at the likes last year of picking Coniglio, P.Cripps and Oliver over say a L.Parker or Tom Rockliff. All these guys were heavily talked about.
Coniglio vs Parker
Coniglio scored 310 points more a huge ranking differential. We can look at these 50/50 calls all day. D.Smith last year vs an I.Henney or J.Billings
Research your premiums. Everyone has the same midpricers and rookies.
But i will say with this game Trading is now the biggest key along with luck.
Anyway thought id add something slightly different.
Guys ill be putting the most time into are the 50/50 premiums/midpricers ie: Kreuzer, Westhoff, Wingard, Seb Ross, B.Crouch ect for me
A couple years ago we had an example of Heath shaw vs Docherty at the same 101 price in 2016. It was a very tough call i went H.Shaw from memory. He went on to score 804 points less than Docherty that year. Thats a huge point differential and thus ranking differential.
Then you look at the likes last year of picking Coniglio, P.Cripps and Oliver over say a L.Parker or Tom Rockliff. All these guys were heavily talked about.
Coniglio vs Parker
Coniglio scored 310 points more a huge ranking differential. We can look at these 50/50 calls all day. D.Smith last year vs an I.Henney or J.Billings
Research your premiums. Everyone has the same midpricers and rookies.
But i will say with this game Trading is now the biggest key along with luck.
Anyway thought id add something slightly different.
Guys ill be putting the most time into are the 50/50 premiums/midpricers ie: Kreuzer, Westhoff, Wingard, Seb Ross, B.Crouch ect for me
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Great call. You could have started with Dusty and Zorko last year and thought you were getting bona fide 110+ premos, but what you ended up with was mid 90’s sub premos. Nailing your big dogs is essential as any other part of the game
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Yeh absolutly sometimes it feels as the no risk options are the way to go but im always wanting a little bit more ie 5-10% improvement.
Some are hard to predict i didnt see Dusty or Luke Parker doing what they did. Research probably tells you Billings shouldve been seen coming if you thought saints were in for a poor season which i did but still picked him.
No doubt i start Kreuzer and he goes down with an ankle in the first qtr with 10 pts next to his name
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Hearing you on Kreuzer, so much risk there. History says you’ll get 15-18 games out of him, not that he’s a keeper anyway. But yeah, if he goes down early, you could suddenly be needing to find 150k to get him up to a gun. R2 is the biggest headache of the pre season for me so far. Currently got Goldy there as I see a slight increase in average (see back half last year) and no threat of sharing ruck duties, but he’s not locked
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I've found apart from Jacobs, must players aren't in full lock down mode at the start of season. In choosing any of the premiums, they might dip in value but not having to worry about trading them in later, when I know I'll have other issues to sort. Injury, suspension ect.
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Yeh ive looked at Goldy hes an outside option for me.
Sam Jacobs still a big option crows should get off to a good start and hes as durable as they come
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Yeah if I do go that cheaper option, much prefer Jacobs to Kreuzer for that durability and also history of many seasons in the high 90’s
But i also think going someone like Jacobs, will allow a much easier upgrade to a better ruck if needed, and Adelaide will unlikely play a 2nd ruck, so he has that going for him too. And i think we are just looking for the R2 to just get 90 + a week and that will be fine. I went with Nic Nat last season and spent majority of the first half of the season playing catch up points, its a good strategy to pick a underpriced ruck, but i don't really want to be in the same position again this season. I reckon ill end up picking Jacobs.
I think Lachie Neale, will be a watch and see, how he fits and what happens when teams line up, it looks like they will tag Zorko and let Neale off, but i think its a wait and see for now.
Whats everyone's thoughts on Josh Kelly vs Coniglio, who do you guys think will end up scoring more at the end of the season.
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Was last year an anomaly for Jacobs, or the start of a decline? He’ll be 31 next year. Had 11 scores under 80 last year
He looked genuinely cooked at parts of last year. I don't disagree that he won't be consistent but that consistency could be at <80 rather than 90+ unfortunately.
im genuinely stumped with who to pick with R2 this season... I think that R2 position is going to be hit and miss. Who you guys thinking?
Goldy, Nank or Witts for me. I think all will increase or maintain their average.
Can't decide between the guy that is young and has a great fantasy game, the guy who has been an absolute gun but is old and the consistent, reliable guy in his prime but doesn't have an amazing ceiling. Currently have Witts.
A fit Kelly can go 120+ easily
Here's a new one. Is Devon Smith way overs? Has to go at 108 next year and Shiel will take a lot of his midfield time I would have thought.
On the contrary...is Laird way overs? 8 point increase on 2017 which also coincides with Brodie Smith being injured.
On the contrary...is Laird way overs? 8 point increase on 2017 which also coincides with Brodie Smith being injured.
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Personally don't see Shiel taking any mid time from Smith. They had players running through the middle like Mutch, Guelfi, Myers, Langford, McGrath last season who would make way before smith
