Opinion 2020 membership renewal

[Smithy7]

Question for those who want a refund in part or full for games not delivered in 2020, would you be prepared to accept a credit against 2021 membership fee rather than a cash refund?

No value judgement, just want to know what your thinking is.

I would be happy with that.

 

[bomberclifford]

Question for those who want a refund in part or full for games not delivered in 2020, would you be prepared to accept a credit against 2021 membership fee rather than a cash refund?

No value judgement, just want to know what your thinking is.

Yes, but doesn't that just delay the problem?

 

[Eddie Dingle]

The club couldn’t afford a year without membership income.

Could it?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Yes, but doesn't that just delay the problem?

sure but that wasn't the point of the question.

 

[TheFVK]

Considering the hundreds of hours we on bigfooty and the general public individually spend watching, thinking, writing and talking about PAFC and the AFL, the notion that we get nothing out of our membership if we can't attend a game is a bit rich.

 

[El Zorro]

Considering the hundreds of hours we on bigfooty and the general public individually spend watching, thinking, writing and talking about PAFC and the AFL, the notion that we get nothing out of our membership if we can't attend a game is a bit rich.

You can do all that without a membership. For most people memberships are effectively a season pass (by international standards that's what the AFL memberships are). Without access to games, the membership has limited to no value to most members. Yes, for some it's a donation. But I'd assume those would be a minority. I'm sure the club can guilt a few more into not asking for or accepting a refund. But I still believe that all clubs will suffer very significant loses on the membership front. It'll be up to the franchisor to pick up the loses or for the franchisees to close shop. After all, that's what this league is.

 

[Jonts]

Considering the hundreds of hours we on bigfooty and the general public individually spend watching, thinking, writing and talking about PAFC and the AFL, the notion that we get nothing out of our membership if we can't attend a game is a bit rich.

Even though I'm not caring about a refund , can't I do all of those things without a membership

 

[Boxx]

I’m not looking for a refund for what I’ve already paid, but surely I shouldn’t be expected to continue paying my monthly instalments!

 

[chiwigi]

Considering the hundreds of hours we on bigfooty and the general public individually spend watching, thinking, writing and talking about PAFC and the AFL, the notion that we get nothing out of our membership if we can't attend a game is a bit rich.

No it isn’t. You get that for being exposed to the sponsors etc.

 

[bomberclifford]

Considering the hundreds of hours we on bigfooty and the general public individually spend watching, thinking, writing and talking about PAFC and the AFL, the notion that we get nothing out of our membership if we can't attend a game is a bit rich.

I agree with the sentiment but current circumstances make it null and void. Some people will need that refund. Literally.

 

[TheFVK]

You can do all that without a membership. For most people memberships are effectively a season pass (by international standards that's what the AFL memberships are). Without access to games, the membership has limited to no value to most members. Yes, for some it's a donation. But I'd assume those would be a minority. I'm sure the club can guilt a few more into not asking for or accepting a refund. But I still believe that all clubs will suffer very significant loses on the membership front. It'll be up to the franchisor to pick up the loses or for the franchisees to close shop. After all, that's what this league is.

Even though I'm not caring about a refund , can't I do all of those things without a membership

No it isn’t. You get that for being exposed to the sponsors etc.

You can do all that without a membership, but the point is we are provided a huge product in PAFC, essentially free to us as a consumer.

I agree with the sentiment but current circumstances make it null and void. Some people will need that refund. Literally.

Which is absolutely a valid reason to cancel a membership.

 

[chiwigi]

You can do all that without a membership, but the point is we are provided a huge product in PAFC, essentially free to us as a consumer.

Which is absolutely a valid reason to cancel a membership.

It’s not though, it’s all paid for by us.
The stupid wages, the taxpayer funded grounds, the lot.

 

[5107power]

Anyone else have more than the usual deducted from the account today? Usually $25 o had 75 taken today

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Yeah, I’m calling in my lunch break tomorrow. They normally take about $145 a month. I changed my CC D/D details last month as my old CC expired (& I think I threw the new card out by mistake) so I check my new D/D CC balance today and $45 taken by D/D. Then check old CC account (the one that expired, I updated details recently, but thought new CC would be debited) and today the whole monthly amount (that shouldn’t of come out) of $145 came out. Wtf? I’m happy to give up the $ if no games can be attended this season, but if this shit happens again I’m of the “changing my mind” and asking for partial refund!

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

Considering the hundreds of hours we on bigfooty and the general public individually spend watching, thinking, writing and talking about PAFC and the AFL, the notion that we get nothing out of our membership if we can't attend a game is a bit rich.

All of these things are something you can do without a membership. If you want to suggest a feeling of deeper connection to the club as a member I can understand/get behind that.

Question for those who want a refund in part or full for games not delivered in 2020, would you be prepared to accept a credit against 2021 membership fee rather than a cash refund?

No value judgement, just want to know what your thinking is.

I think Dingle has it right when he says the club couldn't survive without the money from memberships. My (inefficient) preference would be to have it refunded and then give it straight back to the club as a donation. I'm not getting what I paid for with my membership but I also want to support the club financially.

I also feel like the club pays lip service to the members (see: best fans in the league vs "white noise", appointing co-captains). To see that money go out would be an eye opener. Even though the team wouldn't exist without the players, I don't think the club would exist without the members/supporters.

 

[TheFVK]

It’s not though, it’s all paid for by us.
The stupid wages, the taxpayer funded grounds, the lot.

An 18 team AFL competition is paid for by us, our eyeballs, our spending habits and our taxpayer money.

Port Adelaide in the AFL is paid for by our memberships and financial viability as a club.

 

[pastmyprimus]

I read yesterday that the Crown casino are just disabling every second pokie machine to enable social distancing. Pubs and clubs will probably us a similar little trick

In Las Vegas all casinos, bars, restaurants have been ordered closed. Our government hasn't got the guts to do likewise, so Crown is allowed to make a token effort. Zero concern about the health of casino goers and the wider population.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

In Las Vegas all casinos, bars, restaurants have been ordered closed. Our government hasn't got the guts to do likewise, so Crown is allowed to make a token effort. Zero concern about the health of casino goers and the wider population.

State governments collect gaming taxes revenue and state governments issue state of emergency orders.

Don't blame Canberra for that one.

 

[pastmyprimus]

State governments collect gaming taxes revenue and state governments issue state of emergency orders.

Don't blame Canberra for that one.

Good point. It's Andrews' fault in Vic.

 

[PAFC66]

The club couldn’t afford a year without membership income.

Could it?

No. Anyone wanting refunds should seriously think about it.

 

[PAFC66]

In Las Vegas all casinos, bars, restaurants have been ordered closed. Our government hasn't got the guts to do likewise, so Crown is allowed to make a token effort. Zero concern about the health of casino goers and the wider population.

It's the same with gyms. Amazing.

 

[PAFC66]

All this 150 years celebrations is out the window. We were banking on this stuff. Such a disaster. These 150 year Guernseys might be worth alot in 20-30 years if this competition is still going.

 

[dirty2]

I dont want a refund... they can have my $18 a month or what ever it is... I would just buy iced coffees with it anyways...

 

[Greasyrhys]

Instead of a refund, I’d be all for them offering me a free copy of the Historical Collection. $200 for a book seems excessive

 

[PAFC66]

Instead of a refund, I’d be all for them offering me a free copy of the Historical Collection. $200 for a book seems excessive

$200 seems alot now.. is there a page about the coronavirus. Seems like a important chapter to add to our 150 years of existence.

 

[tribey]

I’m gonna continue paying mine solely so I can go full “WeLl AcTuAlLy” when some dickhead tries to justify Ken’s 33rd year at the club with “guess you don’t remember when coronavirus...”