List Mgmt. 2020 Trade Targets

[Enviable Tradition]

I would absolutely have DeGoey.

I would too.

He is what our forward line lacks.

Someone who can make goals out of nothing.

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[Enviable Tradition]

We aren't getting DeGoey. Victorian born Marquee players don't leave the likes of Collingwood in pretty much any circumstances let alone in their prime to play for clubs like us. It just doesn't happen. This is not to sh*t can who we are, it's just reality.

Carey did

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[Enviable Tradition]

The fact that this is being openly talked about in the media is going to force the AFL to knock these deals on the head. It wouldn't be the first time that the AFL have done it.

The Crows could end up with pick 2 but having to send significant picks back the other way, or else Saints end up having to keep their spuds and over pay for Crouch.

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[u2uabrs]

It seems like tampering with the system, but I guess it is legit.

I could be wrong but it was suggested we helped Geelong do this with the Motlop RFA. I can't recall the details but the gist was that somehow we helped Geelong (ie front-loading Motlops contract) to ensure they got and end of first round pick to get G Ablett back.

 

[manureid]

I could be wrong but it was suggested we helped Geelong do this with the Motlop RFA. I can't recall the details but the gist was that somehow we helped Geelong (ie front-loading Motlops contract) to ensure they got and end of first round pick to get G Ablett back.

I guess slightly different to taking on 2 players as a salary dump though.

 

[u2uabrs]

I guess slightly different to taking on 2 players as a salary dump though.

Yeah I'll search back through Motlops trade thread when/if I get a chance but I recall that Geelong may have paid some of his contract (somehow) to ensure they got a better compensation pick. I could be wrong - my memories not what it used to be.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

I guess slightly different to taking on 2 players as a salary dump though.

It would be great if the Crows take on the 2 players then thenAFL review the priority pick and decide the formula has produced an anomaly and push it back to 19.

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[powermacs]

Would we be in the market for DeGoey?

He'd be a very handy Robbie replacement

I remember 1 year at my local club we had a chap who would get day release to play Footy for the day. After the game he’d walk back to Yatala.

 

[u2uabrs]

Yeah I'll search back through Motlops trade thread when/if I get a chance but I recall that Geelong may have paid some of his contract (somehow) to ensure they got a better compensation pick. I could be wrong - my memories not what it used to be.

Here's an article from Feb 2018 explaining the FA Compensation Formula.

The AFL's secret formula for free agency compensation

Length of contract is largely irrelevant, but a one-year age gap can make a big difference.

www.theage.com.au

If you can't get through the paywall the here's an important paragraph -

"The AFL has deliberately avoided letting the clubs know the compensation formula, in part because of concerns that it will be manipulated - as some clubs have contemplated.
Clubs have discussed deals in which a player would be paid enough to earn a first-round pick, and then the club receiving the pick would pay part of the salary of a different player in a ‘‘separate’’ trade."

 

[philthy05]

I could be wrong but it was suggested we helped Geelong do this with the Motlop RFA. I can't recall the details but the gist was that somehow we helped Geelong (ie front-loading Motlops contract) to ensure they got and end of first round pick to get G Ablett back.

Front loading doesn’t mean anything, they judge the whole contract. You’re giving credence to porkies some no nothing loser tried to pass off to someone.

 

[Alberton Proud]

What a corrupt system


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LOL

So the Crows get rid of a player they don't want, get two players and Pick 2 in return

Keep dreamin'

 

[bomberclifford]

Jesus, Crows are going to bottom out for the next few seasons based on deals like this.

 

[DaTBird187]

Draft tampering? Sounds more like bullshit made up by Garry Lyon.

Who the heck is Jimmy Webster

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Jimmy Webster

Age

31

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

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Last 5

D

16.7

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.8

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M

3.7

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T

2.0

4star

MG

288.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.6

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

? I can't believe the #42 pick in the 2011 national draft is on mega-bucks (yes I Googled him ).

When I hear the name Jimmy Webster

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Jimmy Webster

Age

31

Ht

188cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.7

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.0

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MG

288.1

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No current season stats available

D

9.2

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

3.6

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M

3.0

3star

T

1.8

4star

I picture him looking like this.

And he has 'Little' at the front of his name.

 

[DaTBird187]

I feel like im living in a bizarro world where Shaun McKernan

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Shaun Mckernan

Age

34

Ht

196cm

Wt

100kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.0

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.0

4star

D

8.4

2star

K

5.6

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

17.0

5star

K

8.2

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.2

3star

G

0.2

3star

is a decent player.

How he has carved out the career he has by playing 2 good games in 11 years I dont know

He's been an inspiration to Kyle Hartigan

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Kyle Hartigan

Age

32

Ht

194cm

Wt

101kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.0

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M

4.6

4star

T

1.3

3star

MG

111.0

2star

D

9.3

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.3

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.3

2star

MG

111.0

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D

18.2

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

8.6

5star

M

7.4

5star

T

0.6

3star

.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

 

[Adz2332]

sounds like he really wants to be there....... will you be at essendon next year. yes i will honour my contract. oozes love for the club

 

[Coobk001]

Great news, and hopefully much longer. Do not need him here.

 

[LP7_]

Free agent end of next year and I seriously hope we make a play for him.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Clubs started bitching when the AFL themselves suggested to Essendon to void Ryder's contract to get Essendon a compo first round pick (then Port sends Essendon a first for another player).

****ed league if Adelaide/Saints are allowed to do that.

 

[Rendaw]

If Adelaide and StKilda can do that then why doesnt everyone do it? All you need to do is take some crap contracts and you get band 1 compo. Everyone will do it if they let it happen.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

If Adelaide and StKilda can do that then why doesnt everyone do it? All you need to do is take some crap contracts and you get band 1 compo. Everyone will do it if they let it happen.

Their biggest problem is that it has hit the media so early.

There is enough time for a groundswell of complaints from fans, the media and other clubs and the AFL won't like it.

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[DaTBird187]

Wow, another one leaving.

 

[Andre]

What a corrupt system


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Isn't each trade meant to be considered separately? Sure Adelaide can take on a couple of Saints players, but it's meant to be considered that's a deal a club would do, even if no other deal was being done.

 

[Doctor Feel]

lol we salary dumped Lobbe onto Carlton. Salary dumping is not a new thing. If salary dumping allows them to pay crouch more to get band 1, I don't think that's manipulating anything outside of the rules - it's just working your list to pay certain players more, which happens all the time.

The real eye brow raiser is the crows are willing to take on two trash players to get a higher pick. It's pretty funny.

 

[Coobk001]

Isn't each trade meant to be considered separately? Sure Adelaide can take on a couple of Saints players, but it's meant to be considered that's a deal a club would do, even if no other deal was being done.

The 2 deals are....

Crows send a couple later draft picks StKilda's way and score a couple ordinary players, absorbing their salaries.
Saints bid for Crouch with their new cap space, which inflates the offer and gets the Crows pick #2.

They're 2 separate deals, the first one a big win for the Saints, and the second a huge win for the Crows.

There has to be a lot of goodwill in this to get the deal done, which is where the 'tampering' comes in. The deals themselves are fine, but the reason behind them being done is technically manipulating the rules/tampering for their benefit and I'm not sure that the AFL can do anything about it.