Macca43
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If any of that group get a game this year we will have had a terrible run with injury.
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If any of that group get a game this year we will have had a terrible run with injury.
thylacine60
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I'm at the window distributing queue tickets, you'll get yours soon..........
dont think its too much of a stretch if gibbons, lang and pittonet play a game this year
thylacine60
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Terrible run of injuries if Gibbons gets a game? Right
thylacine60
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everyone's a blues fan this year.......
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it’s basically a certainty kreuzer won’t play a full season either
ferrisb
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This is for you, Doofus
Because sometimes nothing says it better than a Chris Judd smirk
Macca43
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You're the bloke to blame for the hold up, I have been waiting over 4 years!!
thylacine60
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best part of the queue is the bit behind you.........it will be worth the wait............
Introductory Comments:
Let’s clear off the protocols. Injuries etc.
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The main group had a number of players I don’t know attend. Johnson from the Northern Blues was def one so I gather the others are also from there. Maybe 5? Making up numbers for the game simulation.
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They started drills in three groups. Agility drills.
One on one marking drills. Tackling and evasion drills. Not much to report here. Quite liked the first drill: lead and mark, then leading player push back and defend on a lead back to goal square. Newman way too good for Honey was about all that stood out.
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Then the real excitement began. 3 x 15 mins of match play. I’d say they went at 90 percent. No bone jarring hits etc but pretty full on.
It was simply outstanding play. Keep in mind no McKay, CC or MCG. Yet some of the play was breathtaking. Elite.
The first quarter was largely Possibles Vs Probables. Dow and LOB were in the Possibles which was interesting. And for my only real negative of the day: LOB showed why. He was fumbly, his body was a bit weak in the tackle, and his kicking was average. I’m going to pass it off as rust, but it was a shame as he’s had such a good preseason. The other two quarters the teams were thrown around.
Positionally the players were as expected: Weiters, Newman, Jones, Plow, Simmo and Doc the backline. Crippa only played mid. Ed started mid then I lost him. Eddie and Martin forward with Levi. Murph a bit forward and mid. Dow the same. Cunners Mid in the ‘Probables’ and that will never happen again....more on him later. Setters and Lob on a wing. Walsh played mid, wing and forward. Newnes wing and half back. Kreuzer Pittonet and TDk all shares the ruck. Casboult no ruck time.
Just a quick notes dump for you...
1st quarter quick thoughts:
Backline looked immense. Walsh and Cripps amazing. Hard to see how they can keep Cunners out of the side. A long way in front of Dow this quarter.
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Q2: Walsh to a wing. Super Impressive Fisher, Murphy, Cripps, Casboult chain.
Play of the day Cunners break tackle and 50m goal. He’s on FIRE. Fisher terrific. Hands. Standing up in tackles. Skills. Pressure
Newnes solid. Martin solid. Cunners. Amazing. Honey showed up well! Walsh strength in a tackle terrific. Overall just amazing.
Like this is the single best session I’ve ever seen. SO much to like. Especially Harry McKay running so powerfully.
Kennedy sore knee not at full pace. Macreadie who must be 37 years old now.
LOB disappointing so far.
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Third quarter
Willo on wing now. Cunners showing same again. Dow a nice burst. LOB fumbled. Honey lots of power.
Stocker looks fit. Really nice centre clearance by stocker. Walsh looks super. Stronger. TDK actually looking good in ruck. Winning Hitouts. Lang moving the best he has at he club.
Philp showing nice signs. Nice size. Good pace. Stocker showing great signs.Weitering too good for Levi.
Dow showing good signs. Kicking is fine. Maybe needs more of it. Stocker good hands in close. Martin nice mark.
Newman continually running off half back. Fantastic Paddy Wow moment. Crumbed. Burst from a pack. Snap goal.
Dow burst. Gosh Finbar hasn’t been.....too bad???
In case you’re wondering...Eddie is stilll afreak. He kicked 3?
Setters just consistently good. Keeps getting the ball. Using it well.
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After the game play finished they did more work.
5 min 3/4 field work x 3 I think? Transition practice. Some random guy showed a bit. Number 7. NFI who he is.
Cripps fitness is sensational. What stood out for me in the game and in general was that his running to contest has gone up a level. He’s SO fit now.
Philp really showed somehting then stuffed his kicks. Weitering looks sensational. Everything about Dow kicking is better. Refusing to be rushed. No more exaggerated ball drop. Neat low and punch.
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Then they finished off with running of course. The painful 2 min, 90 sec, 30 sec and repeat drill they do.
Order:
Walsh and Cottrell killed it.
Doc
Newnes
Simmo
Goddard
Setters
Ramsay
Murph
Fish
Martin
Dow
Lang
Polson
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That’s a notes dump. Now a collection of my general thoughts. I may do a Player By Player Year on Year review later.
Generally we are SO impressive now. Here’s why:
Some player thoughts. In order of ‘blew me away’.....Ok fine, it’s not a Sam Walsh moment....but Jesus H Christ Cunners is impressive. It’s not just his burst. Please I beg you to watch the hands. It happens WAY too often. He has the best hands at the club. Single best. No doubt. His reflexes are freakish. His hands at his feet are sublime. Then after the gather he can side step a small cargo ship. Then straight speed forward. He’s unstoppable. Then what? Lace put delivery that’s what. He’s strong in a tackle. Let’s stop kicking around here. **** the forward pocket shit. Screw the high half forward rubbish. Put the kid in the guts and get the **** out of his way. This is breakout city here. Like there is too much data on his positive attributes now. He has one residual weakness: he gets lost. Stanton called out at one point “what are you thinking Cunners?” A telltale sign of what they discuss and what he is still working on. He was just ‘watching’ the game at the time. Doesn’t worry me at all. I’ve said it before: Kouta had the same problem and it’s overcome by taking thinking out of it.
Go get it son!!!!!! Off my head excited at what he showed me today. And has all summer. Massive fan. Massive fan.
Crippa. He’s number two on the Windows Hall of Holy Shit. He’s......better. Yep. He’s better. His running and agility are 10 percent up. He’s overlap running- never seen that before. Numbers to the contest stuff. Getting on the outside. Pushing back hard to defence. He’s not Walsh like but shittttt.
Jacob Weitering is the AA CHB Locked in. Just forget it. He’s bigger. He’s stronger. He doesn’t look slow. His kicking, marking, general footy play is all off the leash. I can’t think of a defender I’d prefer. If the ball comes slow into our backline this year just forget it. He will halve it or win it back. He was too strong for LEVI today. Read that again. He was too strong for LEVI.
Sam Walsh comes in at number 4 on Windows’ Why We Can Make the Top 4 List. He’s got the body strength of a 25 year old now. You can’t bring him to ground. I thought his running had dropped off a tad. Nope. He pushed Cottrell ALL the way in the runs today. His kicking is better. His contested ball is better. This off his outstanding year last year. I wouldn’t swap him for any player under 25 in the game. Please don’t think of him as a ‘good young player’. He’s just a ****en gun NOW. He’s elite NOW. He just makes me smile repeatedly. He does everything so so well. Clean hands. Smart decisions. Of course my fave is the slalom runs. At one point today he literally ran around in a circle inside 4 opponents and then mysteriously popped out on his own. Calm in the moment.
Think about this centre square setup and tell me you’re not excited: Kreuzer, Crippa, Walsh and Cunners. I’d back that group against ANY four in the Comp.
Like Zaccy Fisher is standing up in tackles. He’s getting to the outside. He is hitting up targets. And I’m not sure how to fit him in! Murph is Murph. Simmo is Simmo. Kreuzer is Kreuzer. Jones is (the new) Jones.
Newman just dispelled any rubbish thoughts I had about him not being best 22 today. Forget that shit. Laser left leg. Good one on one. Ran hard and created. Forget it. He’s a lock. Willo was good but has a bit to go. Btw willo murdered Kreuzer in their 150s.
I will do a player by player later but I’ve never been happier with our list. Sorry I just have too much to say. I have a lot on today so it’s hard to make this concise and I’ll add more later.
- This is the most Thylacine list I’ve ever seen. DEPTH. It’s amazing. Just bow at the alter of SOS and pray.
- The amount of ‘gee that was good’ moments I had today was simply off the charts.
- The overall fitness of this group is just superb. An amazing improvement in 12 months. Fair play to Soapy- he called it a year ago.
- The number of disappointments were, well it was probably only one and I don’t want to hammer him so I won’t feature it too much.
- The balance is so good. Mature. Middle age. Developing youth. The brand new kids can just take their time.
- They just really like each other this group. They have fun.
Let’s clear off the protocols. Injuries etc.
- rehab group was SPS (who did no running at all), Kennedy (who did slow running and had a knee strap), Kemp, then 3 who did a fair bit. MCG, Jack and McKay. McKay is flying. And huge. Did more running today than last time. And kicking which is great to see for someone coming back from groin problems.
- Jack is in great shape. He kept giving MCG a 10m head start in 150m runs and ran him down. Not that MCG looked bad either.
- Macreadie and Marchy still in rehab. I timed Marchy at a 20 sec 150 which is the fastest I’ve clocked anyone this summer. In superb shape running wise. Must be close to rejoining. Macreadie also fit.
- Ed C seemed to be there at the start of training then left and I don’t know at what stage (but def early) or why
- Kreuzer, Murphy, Newman, Gibbo: all players with question marks from previous sessions all participated fully the whole day. No issues. Great to see. Kreuzer looking super lean and fit.
———
The main group had a number of players I don’t know attend. Johnson from the Northern Blues was def one so I gather the others are also from there. Maybe 5? Making up numbers for the game simulation.
—-
They started drills in three groups. Agility drills.
One on one marking drills. Tackling and evasion drills. Not much to report here. Quite liked the first drill: lead and mark, then leading player push back and defend on a lead back to goal square. Newman way too good for Honey was about all that stood out.
—-
Then the real excitement began. 3 x 15 mins of match play. I’d say they went at 90 percent. No bone jarring hits etc but pretty full on.
It was simply outstanding play. Keep in mind no McKay, CC or MCG. Yet some of the play was breathtaking. Elite.
The first quarter was largely Possibles Vs Probables. Dow and LOB were in the Possibles which was interesting. And for my only real negative of the day: LOB showed why. He was fumbly, his body was a bit weak in the tackle, and his kicking was average. I’m going to pass it off as rust, but it was a shame as he’s had such a good preseason. The other two quarters the teams were thrown around.
Positionally the players were as expected: Weiters, Newman, Jones, Plow, Simmo and Doc the backline. Crippa only played mid. Ed started mid then I lost him. Eddie and Martin forward with Levi. Murph a bit forward and mid. Dow the same. Cunners Mid in the ‘Probables’ and that will never happen again....more on him later. Setters and Lob on a wing. Walsh played mid, wing and forward. Newnes wing and half back. Kreuzer Pittonet and TDk all shares the ruck. Casboult no ruck time.
Just a quick notes dump for you...
1st quarter quick thoughts:
Backline looked immense. Walsh and Cripps amazing. Hard to see how they can keep Cunners out of the side. A long way in front of Dow this quarter.
——-
Q2: Walsh to a wing. Super Impressive Fisher, Murphy, Cripps, Casboult chain.
Play of the day Cunners break tackle and 50m goal. He’s on FIRE. Fisher terrific. Hands. Standing up in tackles. Skills. Pressure
Newnes solid. Martin solid. Cunners. Amazing. Honey showed up well! Walsh strength in a tackle terrific. Overall just amazing.
Like this is the single best session I’ve ever seen. SO much to like. Especially Harry McKay running so powerfully.
Kennedy sore knee not at full pace. Macreadie who must be 37 years old now.
LOB disappointing so far.
——
Third quarter
Willo on wing now. Cunners showing same again. Dow a nice burst. LOB fumbled. Honey lots of power.
Stocker looks fit. Really nice centre clearance by stocker. Walsh looks super. Stronger. TDK actually looking good in ruck. Winning Hitouts. Lang moving the best he has at he club.
Philp showing nice signs. Nice size. Good pace. Stocker showing great signs.Weitering too good for Levi.
Dow showing good signs. Kicking is fine. Maybe needs more of it. Stocker good hands in close. Martin nice mark.
Newman continually running off half back. Fantastic Paddy Wow moment. Crumbed. Burst from a pack. Snap goal.
Dow burst. Gosh Finbar hasn’t been.....too bad???
In case you’re wondering...Eddie is stilll afreak. He kicked 3?
Setters just consistently good. Keeps getting the ball. Using it well.
——
After the game play finished they did more work.
5 min 3/4 field work x 3 I think? Transition practice. Some random guy showed a bit. Number 7. NFI who he is.
Cripps fitness is sensational. What stood out for me in the game and in general was that his running to contest has gone up a level. He’s SO fit now.
Philp really showed somehting then stuffed his kicks. Weitering looks sensational. Everything about Dow kicking is better. Refusing to be rushed. No more exaggerated ball drop. Neat low and punch.
——
Then they finished off with running of course. The painful 2 min, 90 sec, 30 sec and repeat drill they do.
Order:
Walsh and Cottrell killed it.
Doc
Newnes
Simmo
Goddard
Setters
Ramsay
Murph
Fish
Martin
Dow
Lang
Polson
——
That’s a notes dump. Now a collection of my general thoughts. I may do a Player By Player Year on Year review later.
Generally we are SO impressive now. Here’s why:
- Fisher, Walsh and Cunners can all stand up in tackles now. Especially the second two.
- The balance of the midfield group is outstanding. Want a bit of grunt? No problem. Cripps and Ed can get in there and get it. Stocker a watch here too! A few times in the midfield today he showed clean hands, a strong body and an ability to make sharp decisions.
- Want inside / outside? No drama. Cunners (I’m coming to him), Walsh, Setters can all do it.
- I love our link up play. It started to show up last year and I really see it being a strength this year. These guys are all great in a chain: Martin, Gibbo, Simmo, Doc, Walsh, Fish, Cunners, Setters, Crippa. Just super decision makers in close. Great users. They will string the ball together brilliantly as a group this year.
- Weitering and Jones in tandem is a sight to behold. Casboult destroyed Goddard in Q1 of the match play. But in Q3 they put Weiters on him and he was simply too good. I feel so safe with him on anyone now. Fantastic.
- We feel so much stronger all over the ground. Add the big three into the forward line and I feel we have no material weaknesses.
Some player thoughts. In order of ‘blew me away’.....Ok fine, it’s not a Sam Walsh moment....but Jesus H Christ Cunners is impressive. It’s not just his burst. Please I beg you to watch the hands. It happens WAY too often. He has the best hands at the club. Single best. No doubt. His reflexes are freakish. His hands at his feet are sublime. Then after the gather he can side step a small cargo ship. Then straight speed forward. He’s unstoppable. Then what? Lace put delivery that’s what. He’s strong in a tackle. Let’s stop kicking around here. **** the forward pocket shit. Screw the high half forward rubbish. Put the kid in the guts and get the **** out of his way. This is breakout city here. Like there is too much data on his positive attributes now. He has one residual weakness: he gets lost. Stanton called out at one point “what are you thinking Cunners?” A telltale sign of what they discuss and what he is still working on. He was just ‘watching’ the game at the time. Doesn’t worry me at all. I’ve said it before: Kouta had the same problem and it’s overcome by taking thinking out of it.
Go get it son!!!!!! Off my head excited at what he showed me today. And has all summer. Massive fan. Massive fan.
Crippa. He’s number two on the Windows Hall of Holy Shit. He’s......better. Yep. He’s better. His running and agility are 10 percent up. He’s overlap running- never seen that before. Numbers to the contest stuff. Getting on the outside. Pushing back hard to defence. He’s not Walsh like but shittttt.
Jacob Weitering is the AA CHB Locked in. Just forget it. He’s bigger. He’s stronger. He doesn’t look slow. His kicking, marking, general footy play is all off the leash. I can’t think of a defender I’d prefer. If the ball comes slow into our backline this year just forget it. He will halve it or win it back. He was too strong for LEVI today. Read that again. He was too strong for LEVI.
Sam Walsh comes in at number 4 on Windows’ Why We Can Make the Top 4 List. He’s got the body strength of a 25 year old now. You can’t bring him to ground. I thought his running had dropped off a tad. Nope. He pushed Cottrell ALL the way in the runs today. His kicking is better. His contested ball is better. This off his outstanding year last year. I wouldn’t swap him for any player under 25 in the game. Please don’t think of him as a ‘good young player’. He’s just a ****en gun NOW. He’s elite NOW. He just makes me smile repeatedly. He does everything so so well. Clean hands. Smart decisions. Of course my fave is the slalom runs. At one point today he literally ran around in a circle inside 4 opponents and then mysteriously popped out on his own. Calm in the moment.
Think about this centre square setup and tell me you’re not excited: Kreuzer, Crippa, Walsh and Cunners. I’d back that group against ANY four in the Comp.
Like Zaccy Fisher is standing up in tackles. He’s getting to the outside. He is hitting up targets. And I’m not sure how to fit him in! Murph is Murph. Simmo is Simmo. Kreuzer is Kreuzer. Jones is (the new) Jones.
Newman just dispelled any rubbish thoughts I had about him not being best 22 today. Forget that shit. Laser left leg. Good one on one. Ran hard and created. Forget it. He’s a lock. Willo was good but has a bit to go. Btw willo murdered Kreuzer in their 150s.
I will do a player by player later but I’ve never been happier with our list. Sorry I just have too much to say. I have a lot on today so it’s hard to make this concise and I’ll add more later.
Macca43
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Where does he fit?
Cripps, Walsh, Setterfield, Fisher, Murphy, E Curnow, Dow, O'Brien, Newnes & Williamson all in front of him as a midfielder, & Betts, Martin, Cuningham & Silvagni (plus the overflow from the midfielders) are all ahead of him as a forward. He , Kennedy & Stocker will be fighting from a long way back for a spot in the 22.
Macca43
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Amos was doing the talking.
Great to hear Cunners is fit. Great to hear Cunners is killing an intraclub. Great to have an inkling
that at 23 it's about to happen.....
....but i'll hold my excitement for the real thing with Cunners.
Only that will win me over. I'm still not convinced to buy this overhyped stock.
that at 23 it's about to happen.....
....but i'll hold my excitement for the real thing with Cunners.
Only that will win me over. I'm still not convinced to buy this overhyped stock.
thylacine60
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nothing overhyped regarding cuningham - a free run at it will show that
optimaluser
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Riley would do soft stories for the club at the encouragement of Carlton management in order to build up goodwill on getting the inside story on other important scoops. He was reporting on the SOS stuff early days, with my guess he was tipped off as a favour for a previous puff piece on how the kids could be great or something like that.
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Not convinced about any track talk until the games come around. All means SFA at the moment. but nice to read peoples thoughts who were there and gives us hope. Ive got no doubt cunners will make it if his body holds up and has a bit of x factor, especially around goals as a crumbing mid
In your eyes possibly, but we don't all see it the same
Fantastic info Windows. Makes it so much more real for those of us OS.
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Put your best 22 up and i can almost guarantee that 22 wont play during the season - injuries and form
He may not be 'best 22' but if he is given a chance and performs, he doesnt lose his spot, like last year. Ill say he plays round 1
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