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How much are they earning from them Sunny ?
Revenue was $44mill in 2019.
They made $50k profit from that.
You would expect that they would be on a similar deal to Hawthorn ($4mill pa).
Not hard to do the maths…..
North do have debt, like us, just not as much.
But then, they have one third of the Members Equity (a measure of clubs wealth) as us.
 

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Easy.

Hawthorn business model relies on TWO things.

$4mill pa from Tasmania.
Without that they lost $1mill in 2019.

Pokies. They made the same amount ($4mill) as profit in 2019 too.

North, I haven’t bothered to look.
So the hawks are reliant on the Tassie government handout to post a profit?

just stick a tassie post code on them and everyone can move on.
 
if they ever take the saints to tassie we should completely boycott and make sure they crash and burn. Imagine the Tassie government finally getting their team and trying to welcome over all the saints fans and being met with boos and abuse. Scorched earth
 
If we can have 18 AFLW teams surely there's enough talent for 19 AFL teams.

We shouldn’t have 18 AFLW teams though that’s the problem, they’ve rushed that entirely. There isn’t enough solid talent for 8 teams let alone 18. Should’ve done it how the NRL did.

In saying that, I’m for a 19th team. In a perfect world I’d have 20 and have a team in the NT as the Northern Crocs.


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North have Zero debt
Not true.

They have nearly 8 million in current liabilities

We have 11, but have nearly 5 million more in revenue.
Our biggest is non current liabilities of 10 million due to the redevelopment.

In saying that 12 away games in Tasmania and 11 home games at Docklands would suit me....and they could pay off the 10 mill as a bonus, plus half a dozen extra top 10 picks and some recruits with AFL 'Ambassador' money to help a new team out.
 

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Not worried in the slightest but if it does eventuate I will stop following the sport right then and there. It's a pretty simple equation for me.
Yup, the AFL product has been degraded year on year over the last 10 years especially. I'm a Saints fan, not an AFL fan.
 
For what it's worth, I don't want North to be relocated either. In my eyes it's either a new team for Tasmania, or move Gold Coast. Nobody gives a shit about Gold Coast, and even if they become successful they won't achieve much up there.
If there is a hint the Bulldogs will be shifted, I'll advocate for them to be relocated though. After their Presidents comments about us last year, they are enemy #1.
 
Not sure who to barrack for out of GWS and Richmond tonight, either of them winning is a bad result for us, a draw might be the best result for us.

If I had to choose I'd prefer GWS to win, as I said last week I'd prefer GWS to make the Top 8 out of all the teams still in contention if we don't make it.

I like the way they're going about it and they could cause some damage if they sneak into 8th spot and have close to their full strength team available.
 
For what it's worth, I don't want North to be relocated either. In my eyes it's either a new team for Tasmania, or move Gold Coast. Nobody gives a sh*t about Gold Coast, and even if they become successful they won't achieve much up there.
If there is a hint the Bulldogs will be shifted, I'll advocate for them to be relocated though. After their Presidents comments about us last year, they are enemy #1.

Way I see it;

Dons: Should have been de-registered the second they went "I'm doing these people IDGAF" where we still dunno to this day if any of the affected will have health issues because of said concoctions.

North: Petulant child, throwing tantrums about how they dun wanna with one hand, getting handouts with the other.

Dogs: Sorted their own things out, but emulated their namesake far too much.

All basically fighting for the same region instances, much like Hawks and us in the bayside area or all the CBD teams in VIC.

I'm with you, chiefly because Dons shouldn't be in that equation, North is funny, and Dogs can't even figure out if it's west middle or actual but throws shade as if anyone gives a shit.
 
Nobody knows you're very very rich without arbitrary spending on things normal people don't know you can buy.
So I just did some googling. Him and his brother are worth 6.8 bil. I think some others have a share in that but he wouldn’t even notice if he wiped our debt. We should start a petition 😂
 
Isn’t our president a billionaire? Surely he can just sort our debt out for us and wouldn’t even notice

We've had a lot of very rich supporters that have been presidents going back to Lindsay Fox, along with influential rich celeb supporters like Warney.

It's one of the reasons St Kilda has survived despite our lack of success, we may not have the most supporters but we've got a lot of successful ones.
 
Yup, the AFL product has been degraded year on year over the last 10 years especially. I'm a Saints fan, not an AFL fan.
I added to my post but then removed it, but I added this exact thing in there. As a product the AFL has been getting worse year on year, and my enjoyment of the game has definitely eroded over the last few years. I would say 2016 was the last time I enjoyed more than just St.Kilda games. For the last 2 or 3 years all I watch is the Saints. I can't sit through two hours of any other game, it's boring. Nobody can kick straight, it's a rolling maul for a majority of the game. I'm bored of seeing quick hand passes through traffic at every stoppage. Then they get infront of goal and turn to water. It's just a shit product, it makes the decision to never watch again if we relocate that much easier.

Someone before said that they've been through too much with this club to go through a relocation. I'm the exact same. I love St.Kilda. It was one of the few things my father and I bonded over and it hurts me that we never celebrated a premiership together in the time we had together. Since his death I crave a premiership ten fold, there's nothing more on this earth that I would rather experience. I've spent thousands on this club over the years, I paid 5 grand to have both of our names put on the wall of Moorabbin a few years ago. Moreso for him than for me but you get the idea.

Watching the Saints relocate and effectively die would honestly feel like a death in the family to me. I could never forgive the league for doing that to St.Kilda supporters and the relocation coupled with the current state of the game would just make me dead to football forever. I would never go back. And I'm sure long suffering St.Kilda supporters would feel the exact same way.

It might sound a bit wanky to say a football club means this much to me or others but what can I say. I went to Danny Frawley's funeral and saw what a player meant to supporters. I think the death of the club would be so much worse. People are wedded to this club, we wear our loyalty like a badge of honour. I'm proud to say I support the Saints, alot can be told about a person's character from who they support. Supporting a club with one flag shows that for many of us this club means more to us than most. Those who witnessed our last flag would be in their 60s now, yet this year we broke our membership record. That says something. Most of the current membership base have never seen us win a thing.

A lot of us are still holding out for a flag. I don't want to see us die, it would be one of the saddest days of my life, to see our 150 year history vanish but also to never experience a St.Kilda flag. That shit hurts just thinking about it.
 
Not sure who to barrack for out of GWS and Richmond tonight, either of them winning is a bad result for us, a draw might be the best result for us.

If I had to choose I'd prefer GWS to win, as I said last week I'd prefer GWS to make the Top 8 out of all the teams still in contention if we don't make it.

I like the way they're going about it and they could cause some damage if they sneak into 8th spot and have close to their full strength team available.

We need them both to lose one of the next two. Next week GWS play Carlton. Tigers play Hawks.

Thinks Hawks are a better chance of beating Tigers than Carlton are against GWS.

So Richmond win tonight please.
 
Calling their side the Jack Jumpers should get them banned from having their own AFL side. What the fu** is a Jack Jumper and why is the grasshopper a mascot? It makes me think of the Tasmanian Crack Junkies and they have a locust as a mascot. It's a shocker. At least if they move a team there they won't have naming rights I guess.
A quick biology lesson for the great unwashed on this forum. A jackjumper is a very nasty little bullant that has the ability en masse to jump up onto your calf muscle and give you an almighty bite. It is feared by man and beast alike. Unfortunately the goats running the new club designed a mascot cleverly disguised as a locust which looks about as threatening as Ben Long running into an open goal.
 
No Melbourne clubs willing to relocate- 7 news
Hell no, once you do that your history is gone, there are ways around it as one poster suggested. 12 games in Tas and 12 around the country for which ever club enters some type of merge, which wont happen I dont think. I can see a hell of a blue coming up and the AFL ceo is on the nose in Tasmania and I can see him having to bail out North and the Hawks if those Tassie games are stopped in 2 weeks time. A few club heavyweights would be knocking on Gills door demanding a solution. I dont go much on him or the AFL and can see him going to water on this one.
 

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