List Mgmt. 2021 List Management: Academy, Contracts, Trading & Draft

Giant Strides · Sep 30, 2021

Some more trade and draft resources. Courtesy of Lore.

Key Off-Season Dates
This is a comprehensive list including dates for draft combines, list lodgements, delisted free agency windows and return to train dates. I had to collate these from three different club websites because the AFL is lazy af and doesn't have it on their website, so thought it might be helpful to share:

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

AFL TRADE, DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY DATES 2021

Grand Final
Saturday September 25

Draft Combine – Vic Country
Friday October 1

Restricted and Unrestricted Free Agency Window
Friday October 1 – Friday October 8

Delisted Free Agency Window 1
Wednesday October 3 - Friday October 15

Trade Period (picks and players)
Monday October 4 (9am) – Wednesday October 13 (7.30pm)

Draft Combines (States and Regions)
VM: Saturday October 9 (tbc)
Qld: Sunday October 10
Tas: Monday October 11
SA: Saturday October 16
WA: Sunday October 17
NSW & ACT: tbc
NT: will join SA or Qld

Trade Period (picks only)
Monday October 18 – Monday November 15

List Lodgement 1
Friday October 29

Delisted Free Agency Window 2
Wednesday November 3 – Tuesday November 9

List Lodgement 2 (Final date for primary list delistings)
Wednesday November 10

Delisted Free Agency Window 3
Thursday November 11 – Monday November 15

AFL Pre-Season Commences (First to fourth year players)
Monday November 22

National Draft
Round 1: Wednesday November 24 (7pm)
Round 2–end: Thursday November 25 (7pm)

Preseason and Rookie Drafts
Friday November 26 (3.20pm)

Final List Lodgement
Monday November 29

Pre-Season Commences (All other players)
Monday December 6

Pre-Season Supplemental Selection Period (SSP)
December - March (tbc)

Pre-Season Christmas Break
Sunday December 19 - Sunday January 9

Draft Order & Future Pick Tracker

FAQs & Resources Thread

It has an index at the top with threadmarks so it's easy to find what you're looking for – or easier than scrolling through 250 pages of AFL Rules, Regulations and CBA pdfs anyway.

These sorts of questions are all answered along with a bunch of other resources made by posters from across BigFooty (feel free to add to it!):

Resource - FAQs: Rules, Regulations and Resources for Player Movements in the AFL

List sizes Club age and height profiles Salary cap information Trading rules including salary dumps Father/son & academy draft bids Free agency compensation formula & more

www.bigfooty.com

GWS List Summary

Senior List

33: 36 less delisted Shipley & Hutchesson, delisted Wehr (to be reselected in rookie draft), traded Finlayson, plus DFA signing of Brander. 3 to 5 spots available at ND.

1 Phil Davis - 2022
2 Jacob Hopper - 2023
3 Stephen Coniglio - 2026
4 Toby Greene - 2026
5 Tanner Bruhn - 2022
6 Lachie Whitfield - 2027
7 Lachlan Ash - 2023
8 Callan Ward - 2022
9 Ryan Angwin - 2022
10 Jacob Wehr - 2022 [delisted with an agreement to select in the rookie draft]
11 Brayden Preuss - 2023
12 Tom Green - 2023
13 Isaac Cumming - 2022
14 Tim Taranto - 2022
15 Sam Taylor - 2025
16 Brent Daniels - 2025
18 Conor Stone - 2024
19 Nick Haynes - 2024
22 Josh Kelly - 2029
23 Jesse Hogan - 2022
24 Matthew De Boer - 2022
25 Lachlan Keeffe - 2022
26 Jake Riccardi - 2023
27 Harry Himmelberg - 2023
29 Cam Fleeton - 2022
30 Matt Flynn - 2023
32 Kieran Briggs - 2022
33 Xavier O'Halloran - 2022
36 Harry Perryman - 2022
37 Ian Hill - 2022
39 Connor Idun - 2022
40 Adam Kennedy - 2022
44 Jack Buckley - 2022

+ Jarrod Brander - 2022 (selected in first DFA window)

Rookie List - A

4: 7 less delisted Reid & Buntine, retired Shane Mumford. 0 to 2 spots available for rookie draft.

28 Zach Sproule - 2022
38 Daniel Lloyd - 2022
42 Jake Stein - 2022
45 James Peatling - 2022

Rookie List - B

2: full

35 Will Shaw - 2022
46 Callum M Brown - 2022 (Irish international rookie, extended 1 year under COVID rules)

GWS Goose · Dec 15, 2021

PMBangers said:
Been watching as much 2021 AFL Draft eligible boys as I can over the last couple of weeks. I'm praying Collingwood finish bottom 4 so we can get a kid like Tyler Sonsie atm, has good athletic traits and plays a variety of roles through the midfield and in the forwardline, would be one that could be that missing piece we need around stoppages as he matures

As it turns out, this kid still there in the late 20's

PMBangers · Dec 15, 2021

GWS Goose said:
As it turns out, this kid still there in the late 20's

Should make a lot of clubs look silly at least

GWS Goose · Dec 15, 2021

PMBangers said:
Should make a lot of clubs look silly at least

Also a sign of how much difference a year can make.

Im a believer that kids that star early normally turn out well. (although it is very easy to over rate your first opinion of someone)

Something interesting from league, if a kid makes NSWPSSA (primary schools), the U/15 and Year 12 school association team there is a very high rate of playing NRL. it is easily the strongest predictor.

If you take out any of the 3 sides, the chances drop considerably. kids that are guns early, are generally guns.

Giant Strides · Dec 16, 2021

Thought I'd put this story in here, rather than the media thread, to highlight what a crock of shit the rumours were about Cogs leaving:

AFL news 2021: Stephen Coniglio interview, trade to Western Australia, rumours, whispers, struggles at GWS Giants, injuries, form woes, last two years, seasons (foxsports.com.au)

GWS Giants skipper Stephen Coniglio has admitted he’s endured a “tough couple of years” where the midfielder’s been limited to just 23 AFL appearances.

“Being away, having more to worry about than just footy - in terms of how guys are going being away from families and kids and being in a really different environment,” he said. “For me personally, it was hard at times not being able to contribute on the field. Form-wise, I wasn‘t at my absolute best … but as things stand now, I’m in a really good headspace and my body’s feeling as good as it has for a long time. I’ve had a tough couple of years, no doubt. At times I love my back against the wall and have that eye of the tiger to want to come back and to want to really push forward with this team and try and win something.”

It led to Coniglio get linked to a move back to his native Western Australia this off-season after appearing to fall out of favour at the Giants. But Coniglio, who was heavily courted by Victorian clubs at the end of 2019, denied such talk of him leaving the Giants in recent months.

“(There was) No truth to that at all,” he said. “I was in Perth which obviously didn’t help. So wherever I went at that time, people were asking. There were a couple of rumours floating around in the media, but (there was) no truth to that at all. I only signed a seven-year contract a couple of years ago and I want to be a Giant for life. I love it here in Sydney.” Looking ahead to next season, Coniglio was excited to lead the club with Greene and Kelly by his side.

Hendo_21 · Dec 16, 2021

Giant Strides said:
Thought I'd put this story in here, rather than the media thread, to highlight what a crock of sh*t the rumours were about Cogs leaving:

AFL news 2021: Stephen Coniglio interview, trade to Western Australia, rumours, whispers, struggles at GWS Giants, injuries, form woes, last two years, seasons (foxsports.com.au)

GWS Giants skipper Stephen Coniglio has admitted he’s endured a “tough couple of years” where the midfielder’s been limited to just 23 AFL appearances.

“Being away, having more to worry about than just footy - in terms of how guys are going being away from families and kids and being in a really different environment,” he said. “For me personally, it was hard at times not being able to contribute on the field. Form-wise, I wasn‘t at my absolute best … but as things stand now, I’m in a really good headspace and my body’s feeling as good as it has for a long time. I’ve had a tough couple of years, no doubt. At times I love my back against the wall and have that eye of the tiger to want to come back and to want to really push forward with this team and try and win something.”

It led to Coniglio get linked to a move back to his native Western Australia this off-season after appearing to fall out of favour at the Giants. But Coniglio, who was heavily courted by Victorian clubs at the end of 2019, denied such talk of him leaving the Giants in recent months.

“(There was) No truth to that at all,” he said. “I was in Perth which obviously didn’t help. So wherever I went at that time, people were asking. There were a couple of rumours floating around in the media, but (there was) no truth to that at all. I only signed a seven-year contract a couple of years ago and I want to be a Giant for life. I love it here in Sydney.” Looking ahead to next season, Coniglio was excited to lead the club with Greene and Kelly by his side.

Im surprised at how big a story it became over the trade period it all began just because Cornes said he think's it would be a good fit for Coniglio, there was never anything sourced or actual reporting done it was just one guy saying he thinks it would be a good fit and then all of a sudden everyone in the media ran with it like it was something real.

Colonial · Dec 16, 2021

A stupid thought bubble that grew legs because not much was happening at the time.

Giant Strides · Dec 16, 2021

General Giant said:
A stupid thought bubble that grew legs because not much was happening at the time.

And also because #Vicmediabias likes to kick GWS as often as it can.

Colonial · Dec 16, 2021

You could see how much the bullshit vfl media rely on players leaving the Giants as clickbate that when they were all re-signed they just made shit up and created thought bubbles that ended up as the old “where there is smoke there’s fire”. Pathetic.

One day we will get an AFL media. One day.

Giant Pete · Dec 23, 2021

Anyone know where our membership numbers sit at this stage?

Colonial · Dec 23, 2021

Giant Pete said:
Anyone know where our membership numbers sit at this stage?

I think we will go backwards this year.
Live crowds will be hard pressed, especially with newer clubs in frontier states.

PaythePerryman · Oct 11, 2022

JOM rumours are interesting. Maybe better for our age profile. Comes off the books in 3 years, Hawks paying for the pick.
He'd be depth and challenging Ward for midfield minutes.

Hendo_21 · Oct 11, 2022

PaythePerryman said:
JOM rumours are interesting. Maybe better for our age profile. Comes off the books in 3 years, Hawks paying for the pick.
He'd be depth and challenging Ward for midfield minutes.

One of the journo's was saying (forgot who it was) that the we wouldn't want to pay any of his salary which likely means a higher pick and I probably think that makes negotiations a bit tough

Colonial · Oct 11, 2022

Hendo_21 said:
One of the journo's was saying (forgot who it was) that the we wouldn't want to pay any of his salary which likely means a higher pick and I probably think that makes negotiations a bit tough

Barrett I think it was

Hendo_21 · Oct 11, 2022

General Giant said:
Barrett I think it was

Yep that was it

Maximus 2011 · Oct 12, 2022

PaythePerryman said:
JOM rumours are interesting. Maybe better for our age profile. Comes off the books in 3 years, Hawks paying for the pick.
He'd be depth and challenging Ward for midfield minutes.

yuck no thanks

Colonial · Oct 12, 2022

Maximus 2011 said:
yuck no thanks

Think he will be useful.

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