Trades 2021 Round 2 Fantasy Trades

[mezaire]

Surely those BE's are all incorrect.
I think they're all subject to change depending on what everyone else scores as well.
Mitchell was priced at 107, scored 106 and dropped $1k. Seems working about right. Clearly whatever they show as a BE is stuffed though!?!

Edit: I guess Bailey Williams is the bench mark. Priced $600k. Scored 106 and went up $17k.

So worst case williams goes up maybe $20-$25k this week if he has an absolute blinder. Definetely one you can wait on.

I'm more concerned I'll do two dud trades. Atleast if I make one of them Williams I might have 1 dud trade That's my thinking anyway.

No they are right. The B/E formula works on an overall price for all players (I think it's something like that) and the fact that so many players went 2-3 times the avg they were priced at, it means B/E's are higher.
Even someone like Gulden. I remember Rowell's B/E (and a heap of other players) was well below Gulden's after rd1 last year as less midpricers and rookies did as well.
This could all change in a week though if cheap players don't do as well.

 

[Neale4brownlow]

I'm not trading in/out any Collingwood or Carlton players. So I'm just going to enjoy the footy tonight and worry about which midpricers I'm going to wrongly pick out of the bunch tomorrow.

I like this strategy haha. Reckon I'll chicken out and do similar. Nothing like leaving to tomorrow what you can't decide today! haha.

 

[Neale4brownlow]

No they are right. The B/E formula works on an overall price for all players (I think it's something like that) and the fact that so many players went 2-3 times the avg they were priced at, it means B/E's are higher.
Even someone like Gulden. I remember Rowell's B/E (and a heap of other players) was well below Gulden's after rd1 last year as less midpricers and rookies did as well.
This could all change in a week though if cheap players don't do as well.

Well that's rather scary the goal posts get farther away for the top end... Geez uber premos are going to get slaughtered out there early in the year.

 

[Dupogi]

Can afford to get both Stephenson and Caldwell in this week but it would mean missing out on Jordon, and his JS has just taken another step forward with the Harmes news. Even if he scores in the 50s for the next 5 weeks he makes nearly $150k and I can’t be missing out on that. Hence I’m bringing in Caldwell and waiting a week on Stephenson.

Danger -> Caldwell
Cahill -> Jordon via Brockman DPP

This is my issue with Gulden. I can bring in Stepho and Caldwell but miss out on the cash gen of Gulden. Will Caldwell and Stevo make up for it if they are all keepers?

 

[mezaire]

Well that's rather scary the goal posts get farther away for the top end... Geez uber premos are going to get slaughtered out there early in the year.

It actually happens every year, just worse this year!!

F

 

[Neale4brownlow]

This is my issue with Gulden. I can bring in Stepho and Caldwell but miss out on the cash gen of Gulden. Will Caldwell and Stevo make up for it if they are all keepers?

Nah I think above all else you have to get Gulden. Flip a coin on the other two if need be.

 

[Spider Klein]

Don't want to hold Danger but I also have Oliver Henry (sigh) and Rowell.

So likely Henry to Rowe
Rowell out. I have 300k spare so can get anyone. Means holding Danger and reassessing next week.

Only thing trading Danger does is allow me to get Stephenson also, but then I miss Rowe anyway.

Too many decisions after only 1 round.

 

[Jozzy]

I don't think Dumont/Anderson/Cunginton will affect Stephenson and I think Caldwell's Round 1 score was a little inflated. However I think Stepho's score was way out of the park too.

I see Caldwell averaging about 85-90 for the rest of the season and Stephenson averaging 90-92. I'm getting both in. Mainly in the hope of avoiding them being the Greenwood/Brayshaw types of last season.

Thankfully I started with Caldwell which I’ve been pretty stoked about and won’t need to bring in.

Despite originally leaning towards Hind I’m now going towards Stephenson. Hind also plays Port this week in Adelaide and has the lower price so I can always look to get Hind in next week. (He’s probably also lesser likely to get a genuinely massive score).

Either way, if I’m wanting to bring in Williams both trades would have to be locked away tonight which does worry bro a little bit but if it has to be done I’ll make the trades early.

 

[Balsam]

Anyone else having issues with Fantasy coach?

Trying to compare Grundy and Pendles for tonight's game. I can get the averages at the ground, but not against the opponent.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Really keen on Danger>Williams but with Giants v Freo the last game of the round think I'll hold fire. Worried about these rookie rucks, particularly Flynn's ankle. Meek and Hunter probably only a week left each. Can see some zeros potentially coming up for those with the 2 rook ruck setup

 

[Neale4brownlow]

Really keen on Danger>Williams but with Giants v Freo the last game of the round think I'll hold fire. Worried about these rookie rucks, particularly Flynn's ankle. Meek and Hunter probably only a week left each. Can see some zeros potentially coming up for those with the 2 rook ruck setup

If Flynn and Meek were somehow both out I think I'd rather take the donut at R2 rather than patch fix it.
1 trade at the very least will be done. Not alot you can do with 100-300k and 1 trade at R2 haha.

 

[freo_leo29]

Really keen on Danger>Williams but with Giants v Freo the last game of the round think I'll hold fire. Worried about these rookie rucks, particularly Flynn's ankle. Meek and Hunter probably only a week left each. Can see some zeros potentially coming up for those with the 2 rook ruck setup

Meek will play for sure this round and then Treacy will play round 3 so another rook option to downgrade to

 

[redrex94]

Howe > Z.Williams or C.Daniel

Thoughts?

Other will be Danger > Stepho or Dusty but don't have to decide that tonight.

 

[Shadow89]

Don't want to hold Danger but I also have Oliver Henry (sigh) and Rowell.

So likely Henry to Rowe
Rowell out. I have 300k spare so can get anyone. Means holding Danger and reassessing next week.

Only thing trading Danger does is allow me to get Stephenson also, but then I miss Rowe anyway.

Too many decisions after only 1 round.

Having a a think about this, why wouldn't you hold Henry, instead of Danger who's gonna net you more cash to spend on field this week? Even if you played him on field, I'm sure you've got at least one forward bench rook to cover him - Warner, Bergman, Scott, Brockman, Jones, Fullarton etc.

So basically, Danger > Stevo, Rowell > Rowe (flick one of your mid/fwd's into the mids - as I assume you'd have at least one of Dunks, Dusty, Phillips, Caldwell etc.) 550K min. remaining.

Leave Henry 'til next week, as he's not going down in price. Could downgrade him to Treacy, pocket nearly 70K, and still have (by my calculations) at least 620K+ to make an upgrade from a failed rook/failed midpricer.

Alternatively, can just upgrade Henry instead with the 550K you'll have, to basically any forward/a decent or fallen premium mid by flicking your mid/fwd from the Rowell trade back again - someone like Gaff or Adams comes to mind.

All of this gives you the added advantage of being able to see the team sheets for Friday and Saturday at least, and not have to make a hasty decision tonight.

Let me know if that works

 

[Zevon]

This is my issue with Gulden. I can bring in Stepho and Caldwell but miss out on the cash gen of Gulden. Will Caldwell and Stevo make up for it if they are all keepers?

Yeah agree with the thoughts of Neale4brownlow above. Gulden is a must have. I sat down and did some price projections and worked out that even getting Jordon was worth missing out on one of Stephenson/Caldwell. Gulden is going to make even more than Jordon (fantasy gods willing) so definitely prioritise getting him.

The higher Stephenson’s ownership increases the more I’m happy to go against the grain and pass on him for now. Hopefully Stewie Dew can put the clamps on him this week. In Stewie we trust

 

[Fyfetheknife]

The higher Stephenson’s ownership increases the more I’m happy to go against the grain and pass on him for now. Hopefully Stewie Dew can put the clamps on him this week. In Stewie we trust

Was thinking this. Does Gaff having such a mare against gold coast mean anything for Stephenson?

 

[Ohh Ok]

Gaff was tagged against Gold Coast..

 

[Dupogi]

Yeah agree with the thoughts of Neale4brownlow above. Gulden is a must have. I sat down and did some price projections and worked out that even getting Jordon was worth missing out on one of Stephenson/Caldwell. Gulden is going to make even more than Jordon (fantasy gods willing) so definitely prioritise getting him.

The higher Stephenson’s ownership increases the more I’m happy to go against the grain and pass on him for now. Hopefully Stewie Dew can put the clamps on him this week. In Stewie we trust

It does seem the smart move from a cash gen POV thats for sure, and it has been my plans all week to go Scott - Gulden or whichever rookies gets dropped, and get either of these guys that will have a price increase or even Williams in defense is a viable option.
Like you with the popularity of Stephenson and Caldwell I have been thinking the same and going for a bit of a POD, but the value is undeniable.
But I also have DeGoey which could be traded to either of those two next week if need be.

 

[Dupogi]

Gaff was tagged against Gold Coast..

Maybe they sit on Stevo

 

[Spider Klein]

Having a a think about this, why wouldn't you hold Henry, instead of Danger who's gonna net you more cash to spend on field this week? Even if you played him on field, I'm sure you've got at least one forward bench rook to cover him - Warner, Bergman, Scott, Brockman, Jones, Fullarton etc.

So basically, Danger > Stevo, Rowell > Rowe (flick one of your mid/fwd's into the mids - as I assume you'd have at least one of Dunks, Dusty, Phillips, Caldwell etc.) 550K min. remaining.

Leave Henry 'til next week, as he's not going down in price. Could downgrade him to Treacy, pocket nearly 70K, and still have (by my calculations) at least 620K+ to make an upgrade from a failed rook/failed midpricer.

Alternatively, can just upgrade Henry instead with the 550K you'll have, to basically any forward/a decent or fallen premium mid by flicking your mid/fwd from the Rowell trade back again - someone like Gaff or Adams comes to mind.

All of this gives you the added advantage of being able to see the team sheets for Friday and Saturday at least, and not have to make a hasty decision tonight.

Let me know if that works

Yeh definitely an option.

Just feeling like I should jump on Rowe while he is available for cash gen. And not completely sold on Stephenson. Already rocking Hind and Caldwell. Bringing in a third mid pricer even with good cash gen could be asking for issues.

But definitely options. Because yes I have mid/forwards and another playing forward in Scott.

 

[Fyfetheknife]

Gaff was tagged against Gold Coast..

So would they do the same to Stephenson? Same role

 

[creamPIES]

Is 500k too much to leave in the kitty?

 

[Dupogi]

Is 500k too much to leave in the kitty?

There isnt any interested on 500K...

 

[JADED]

Is 500k too much to leave in the kitty?

It should be clearer this week what needs fixing & what doesn't.
If nothing needs improving it might be ok to hold that cash but generally there are better options.

Do you have a plan for it (ie, last week I held money to get Zac Williams this week)

Some low Rd 1 scores from big names means they will be available cheaper very soon. Having cash to pull the trigger might be nice.

 

[creamPIES]

So would they do the same to Stephenson? Same role

Gaff is also a proven ball winner.

Stepho has played one game in the midfield, even though he looked really good does dew really give someone who's essentially played 1 game at the level in the middle that sorta credit?

Feel like you just need to bring stepho in regardless, he scores a 70 and at worse it slows his cash gen and you need to trade him out in a month or so, but so will everybody else, massive risk to not take him on the basis of a potential tag could easily pump out another 100 plus and you've essentially missed the boat... Not a risk I'm willing to take personally.