2021 Wooden Spoon

[g_TRAIN]

Roos were more important imo

Saints were missing Marshall, Gresham, Jones, Hannerbury (along with Geary and Kent)

While the Roos were missing Goldstien, LDU, Cunnington, Anderson (along with Polec)

I know it's a LTI but can add Paton as well.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Roos would have to be paying $1.01 now wouldn't they?
I get that they've embraced a full rebuild, but who would have thought that losing Brown and Wood would make it difficult to post a winning score?

 

[The 747]

Practice match is a practice match

 

[Jeremias]

Roos would have to be paying $1.01 now wouldn't they?
I get that they've embraced a full rebuild, but who would have thought that losing Brown and Wood would make it difficult to post a winning score?

They are favourites for good reason, but I don't think losing Mason Wood is a factor in that.

 

[Gavin Excell]

They are favourites for good reason, but I don't think losing Mason Wood is a factor in that.

Mason Wood will disappear when the heat is on

 

[dazzledavey36]

I watched the North Saints game and North are absolute trash. Will be borderline 2013 Dees this year.

 

[perplexed]

I wouldn’t trade half of Walsh for two of your best kids(who are they btw)?

This is a spoon thread. Not sure any of our kids have won one yet.
Was Kreuzer was a spoonboy too? One of the Chosen 1's?

 

[TP86]

Aside from the popular three (Hawthorn, North, Adelaide) plenty of teams are "in range" with an injury crisis. Melbourne, Essendon, GWS, Collingwood, Gold Coast or even Carlton could all have an off-the-cliff season with the wrong number of injuries.

I still think too many are assuming Gold Coast are magically moving up the table based on not much. Stewart Dew has a W/L record in Mark Neeld territory miles behind early Clarko and early Hardwick. He's from the Roos school which is being actively legislated out of the game by rule makers. Aside from beating his former club there's not much evidence of his game style or tactics or really anything. He looks like a poor man's Simon Goodwin

Simon Goodwin

Age

47

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

8.8

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.5

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.2

4star

at the moment (or rich man's Goodwin if you think Gold Coast has a better list than Melbourne? I don't think it's close).

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Practice match is a practice match

A 91pt loss is a 91pt loss

 

[gandaal]

A 91pt loss is a 91pt loss

Not when it’s a practice match it isn’t. It’s meaningless.

 

[The 747]

A 91pt loss is a 91pt loss

So after that game where do they sit on the ladder?

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Not when it’s a practice match it isn’t. It’s meaningless.

Yeah I have no doubt every AFL Coach goes into a practice match thinking its a meaningless game

 

[Sarcoidevo]

So after that game where do they sit on the ladder?

Well according to this thread they sit top of most football fans Wooden Spoon ladder

 

[The 747]

Yeah I have no doubt every AFL Coach goes into a practice match thinking its a meaningless game

See it is called a 'practice match', which means it used to 'practice' which is why it doesn't count for anything.

 

[The 747]

Well according to this thread they sit top of most football fans Wooden Spoon ladder

Maybe, but being flogged in practice match means nothing. Sydney used to get beaten all preseason when they were a top 4 team.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Maybe, but being flogged in practice match means nothing. Sydney used to get beaten all preseason when they were a top 4 team.

The alarming thing is that's they were flogged by a team who were missing as many as 7 of their best 22, including a few of their very best, and on North's home training ground of all places.

The result suggests that North are still the very poor team they were in the 2nd half of last year, at least if they're not full strength, or close to it.

Yesterday suggests that their depth is paper-thin.

 

[Jirik13]

Aside from the popular three (Hawthorn, North, Adelaide) plenty of teams are "in range" with an injury crisis. Melbourne, Essendon, GWS, Collingwood, Gold Coast or even Carlton could all have an off-the-cliff season with the wrong number of injuries.

I still think too many are assuming Gold Coast are magically moving up the table based on not much. Stewart Dew has a W/L record in Mark Neeld territory miles behind early Clarko and early Hardwick. He's from the Roos school which is being actively legislated out of the game by rule makers. Aside from beating his former club there's not much evidence of his game style or tactics or really anything. He looks like a poor man's Simon Goodwin at the moment (or rich man's Goodwin if you think Gold Coast has a better list than Melbourne? I don't think it's close).

Just a bit on SUNS as a SUNS supporter. A bit unfair on Dew as he basically had to re-built the team. 10+ players replace/gone every year. Most coaches, admin staff replaced. 2021 is the first year fans should finally start seeing significant improvement.

SUNS did improve in 2020. A lot of people predicted that SUNS will not win a game. From wooden spoon they moved to 14th place. From 17 games SUNS managed 5 wins, 1 draw, 2 close losses, 90% percentage. All while SUNS played easily the youngest best 22 in the competition.

In 17 rounds SUNS fielded the youngest team 11x, 2x equal the youngest. 7x SUNS fielded the team younger than 24 years (2x 23 years 2 months). Swans were the only other team fielding a line-up below 24 and only 1x.

Interestingly, SUNS fielded teams below 24 age in round 1 and then all rounds after 10 except one. It just confirm that SUNS strategy in 2020 was putting games into young core despite having some mature bodies available.

In 2021 SUNS best 22 becomes 6 months older despite old players Thompson, Harbrow, Hanley gone/missing. Looking at current age profile, best 22 and depth, SUNS will most probably not field a team below 24 years in 2021.

As regarding game style, there was a significant shit in 2020. SUNS played much more offensive style and took game on more often and actually if you watch some games the style was pretty exciting though not maintained long enough. SUNS need to improve desperately DE and limit turnovers. Extra pre-season into young bodies will also help.

SUNS are loaded with talent and the significant young core is approaching 50-60 games and is complemented by mature players. SUNS should continue upwards trajectory. How steep is the question. Will it happen this year? Or next year as most people predict? One thing I predict for 2021, you will enjoy SUNS game style.

 

[gandaal]

Yeah I have no doubt every AFL Coach goes into a practice match thinking its a meaningless game

100% true. They couldn’t care less about the game itself. It’s all about preparing players for the season ahead and getting a better idea of who will be in your best 22 in Round 1.

 

[perplexed]

The alarming thing is that's they were flogged by a team who were missing as many as 7 of their best 22, including a few of their very best, and on North's home training ground of all places.

The result suggests that North are still the very poor team they were in the 2nd half of last year, at least if they're not full strength, or close to it.

Yesterday suggests that their depth is paper-thin.

Calm down. Our reserves will field a stronger midfield than we did yesterday.

 

[faible]

Yesterday suggests that their depth is paper-thin.

I'm not sure who would have ever thought otherwise?

Most of the teams down the bottom half of the ladder run thin depth-wise, that's why they're down the bottom.

 

[Percel]

Just a bit on SUNS as a SUNS supporter. A bit unfair on Dew as he basically had to re-built the team. 10+ players replace/gone every year. Most coaches, admin staff replaced. 2021 is the first year fans should finally start seeing significant improvement.

SUNS did improve in 2020. A lot of people predicted that SUNS will not win a game. From wooden spoon they moved to 14th place. From 17 games SUNS managed 5 wins, 1 draw, 2 close losses, 90% percentage. All while SUNS played easily the youngest best 22 in the competition.

In 17 rounds SUNS fielded the youngest team 11x, 2x equal the youngest. 7x SUNS fielded the team younger than 24 years (2x 23 years 2 months). Swans were the only other team fielding a line-up below 24 and only 1x.

Interestingly, SUNS fielded teams below 24 age in round 1 and then all rounds after 10 except one. It just confirm that SUNS strategy in 2020 was putting games into young core despite having some mature bodies available.

In 2021 SUNS best 22 becomes 6 months older despite old players Thompson, Harbrow, Hanley gone/missing. Looking at current age profile, best 22 and depth, SUNS will most probably not field a team below 24 years in 2021.

As regarding game style, there was a significant sh*t in 2020. SUNS played much more offensive style and took game on more often and actually if you watch some games the style was pretty exciting though not maintained long enough. SUNS need to improve desperately DE and limit turnovers. Extra pre-season into young bodies will also help.

SUNS are loaded with talent and the significant young core is approaching 50-60 games and is complemented by mature players. SUNS should continue upwards trajectory. How steep is the question. Will it happen this year? Or next year as most people predict? One thing I predict for 2021, you will enjoy SUNS game style.

What is SUNS an acronym for?

 

[Jirik13]

What is SUNS an acronym for?

Gold Coast SUNS. That's how it should be written according to club.

 

[Bostonian]

A lot of North's fate rests on Goldy's form.

If he gets injured or has a form slump it would make it hard for them to win many games.

Their forward line structure will be interesting too. Will they be able to kick enough goals to win many games?

 

[Percel]

Gold Coast SUNS. That's how it should be written according to club.

Oh cheers, thanks for that, never knew

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

Gold Coast SUNS. That's how it should be written according to club.

Why, though?