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[BigBreakfast]

Talk about being disappointed the innocent was not found guilty.
Gary Lyon just stated "what if Ah Che comes down with concussion issues 12 to 18 months down the track.
WTF Cripps getting 2 weeks or not, is not going to stop a chance of complications down the track.

If litigation is the issue, "honestly" very similar to a boxer suing the federation for concussion, maybe the all
concerning AFLPA need to enforce neck strengthening exercises, leading to concerning skull fractures.

I'm sick to death of hearing the concussion debate, it's all talk and no action. It all boils down to one question.

Why aren't helmets enforced?

Check out the data on litigation in the NFL, even though the have helmets. If we are even a microcosm of this, the AFL and insurers will be on the edge.
It’s nothing like boxing where hitting the head is intentional and legal. Not the same in footy, head is sacrosanct.
Wonder if Liam Picken would be sick to death of the concussion debate?

 

[Dunna Heartknee]

Check out the data on litigation in the NFL, even though the have helmets. If we are even a microcosm of this, the AFL and insurers will be on the edge.
It’s nothing like boxing where hitting the head is intentional and legal. Not the same in footy, head is sacrosanct.
Wonder if Liam Picken would be sick to death of the concussion debate?

Using data from a sport which is vastly different, and using it as the plethora to not trial it in another sport seriously "WOW".

In cricket we can look at it like the Phil Hughes incident while totally ignoring how many people it has protected, we could easily say
it didn't work for him so why wear one, yet everyone still wears them. So what did the sport do, it went to work, and added to the helmet
to make it a safer environment for all to play and enjoy at all levels.

All levels is the point the AFL and a lot of people are totally missing here, the same incident Cripps/Ah Chee happens way out in the sticks.
That person can't go to work for two weeks, yet wearing a helmet could have prevented this outcome, think of the impact it would have at junior level.

If wearing a helmet cuts concussions back by five percent it is actually an action helping the prevention.
Not people sitting back having a verbal pissing contest getting nothing done, hiding behind players getting suspended for fear of litigation..

Quite frankly "if you play the game you know the risks, if concussion is not for you take up another sport" is the words that come to mind when people start driveling on about concussion.

 

[no fate]

The only real question is: how far is it necessary to go to avoid concussions?

If concussion is to be the be all and end all, the the safest thing to do is not to play footy at all. Most people think that's going too far. Mandatory helmets would help avoid some but not all. Worth considering but would surely detract from the aesthetic and tough guy image of the game and cause massive debate. Otherwise, have to look at which of the following can reasonably be banned:

Striking the head (done)
Head high tackles (done)
Head high bumps (done)
Sling tackles (done)
Accidental head high contact in a contest to gather an aerial ball (this case)
Accidental head high contact in a contest to gather a ground ball (usually a free kick only)
Accidental head high contact in a marking contest (they don't want to)
Knee to the head while flying for a speccy (see above)
Jumper punches (usually a fine)
Incidental contact during melees (usually a fine)
Various cheap shots behind play or after play, including various contact not involving fists, and where you push the opponent's head into the turf (ignored).

I still don't know why AFL don't take proper action to stamp out the cheap shots. But other than that, fully banning the bump, and the helmets, don't think there's too much further they can go. Thus the AFL resort to what is does best - grandstanding. That's what this case was - pinning a notoriously fair player who was playing within the rules with a suspension to make an example.

Seems pretty clear that the Einsteins at AFL House are going to get creative on the rules again so I fully expect an ever increasing circus of on field confusion and ridiculous tribunal inconsistency while they try to sort that out.

 

[BigBreakfast]

Using data from a sport which is vastly different, and using it as the plethora to not trial it in another sport seriously "WOW".

In cricket we can look at it like the Phil Hughes incident while totally ignoring how many people it has protected, we could easily say
it didn't work for him so why wear one, yet everyone still wears them. So what did the sport do, it went to work, and added to the helmet
to make it a safer environment for all to play and enjoy at all levels.

All levels is the point the AFL and a lot of people are totally missing here, the same incident Cripps/Ah Chee happens way out in the sticks.
That person can't go to work for two weeks, yet wearing a helmet could have prevented this outcome, think of the impact it would have at junior level.

If wearing a helmet cuts concussions back by five percent it is actually an action helping the prevention.
Not people sitting back having a verbal pissing contest getting nothing done, hiding behind players getting suspended for fear of litigation..

Quite frankly "if you play the game you know the risks, if concussion is not for you take up another sport" is the words that come to mind when people start driveling on about concussion.

But it’s not different in that both are contact sports with the risk of head injury, albeit more so in NFL. However their helmet technology is also vastly different and mandatory for the very reasons you advocate. But yeah, well, Wow it is.

It’s not a simple as play the game know the risks. Head contact is outlawed. There is an expectation of a duty of care from other players that you won’t be polaxed like in years past. You are being naive if you advocate this perspective. The AFL embraces the free flowing possession style footy with safe, physical contests with the ball as the objective.

There are too many cases of CTE to suggest that at least some won’t end up in a civil case. I could attached evidence but that has all been done before. You can be sick of the discussion all you like but it isn’t going anywhere.

 

[Sector 7G]

According to Ralphy. Crisso didn’t look at the front angle when assessing the Cripps suspension. What a hack

 

[Stamos]

According to Ralphy. Crisso didn’t look at the front angle when assessing the Cripps suspension. What a hack

He, and Jeff Gleeson, should be sacked

 

[Arr0w]

I could accept why Cripps may or may not have been suspended. There is no way to say act A is right on the edge and but legal, while act B is also on the edge and illegal. There are just too many situations with varying degree of circumstances

There will always be concussions and or players injured in contests, but you can't sanction players if it is categoric that any player was not contesting the ball at the time of an incident

 

[Keyza]

According to Ralphy. Crisso didn’t look at the front angle when assessing the Cripps suspension. What a hack

Why does that not surprise.

 

[Dunna Heartknee]

Why does that not surprise.

Yep way to go marring someone's perfect football rap sheet by being inept at your job, talk about defamation of character.

 

[Keyza]

Yep way to go marring someone's perfect football rap sheet by being inept at your job, talk about defamation of character.

A Saints player got a one week suspension for a bump. All over social media people saying just get Cripps' lawyer and he will get off.
The precedence was set when Rioli got off earlier in the year.
It is unfair on Cripps, he has never been suspended ever and you would think he is some thug who gets away with murder.

 

[DangerousD]

The AFL are a mess, the Dogs player who bumped the Giant player off the ball has been sent straight to the tribunal, it seems Christian is too scared to do his job.

 

[Stamos]

The AFL are a mess, the Dogs player who bumped the Giant player off the ball has been sent straight to the tribunal, it seems Christian is too scared to do his job.

He should have been sacked long ago, but charging Young for front on contact was surely a clear demonstration of his incompetence.

From the replays of the Cordy bump it doesn't look high. It should be a very straight-forward decision for Christian.

 

[Dadda Dave]

What is it with the Filth trolls.

So salty!

Can't you just say " see ya later alligator" and card them ..I would

 

[RPCB]

He should have been sacked long ago, but charging Young for front on contact was surely a clear demonstration of his incompetence.

From the replays of the Cordy bump it doesn't look high. It should be a very straight-forward decision for Christian.

That’s a worry.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

The AFL are a mess, the Dogs player who bumped the Giant player off the ball has been sent straight to the tribunal, it seems Christian is too scared to do his job.

As fans of the game we need to rise up, what you are seeing right now is affecting the very fabric of the game and unless we do the game will be changed forever.

That is a legitimate and very fair shepherd, a skill that has been a part of football since day dot. I would say it’s a skill that doesn’t happen anywhere near as often as it should or once did much to my chagrin.

We need to stop thinking that because a player comes off second best that we need to rub them out. It’s a physical, tough, uncompromising sport that is becoming by the year more and more compromised.


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[Aphrodite]

Few fines handed out.

Surprised Steven May

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wasn't fined for staging TWICE ...

Oh wait ....... he doesn't play for Carlton.

 

[Keyza]

Few fines handed out.

Surprised Steven May wasn't fined for staging TWICE ...

Oh wait he doesn't play for Carlton.


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Was the Pickett charge when he tackled Stocker head first into the ground? Walsh was on the receiving end of a similar one too.

 

[Red_man2008]

Few fines handed out.

Surprised Steven May wasn't fined for staging TWICE ...

Oh wait he doesn't play for Carlton.


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So did the Carlton players melee against themselves???

 

[Aphrodite]

So did the Carlton players melee against themselves???

Seems that way.

 

[Aphrodite]

Was the Pickett charge when he tackled Stocker head first into the ground? Walsh was on the receiving end of a similar one too.

Not too sure but it was in the 1st qtr.

 

[james Dean]

Was the Pickett charge when he tackled Stocker head first into the ground? Walsh was on the receiving end of a similar one too.

Was paid holding the ball against Stocker.

 

[Juddafideslenko]

He should have been sacked long ago, but charging Young for front on contact was surely a clear demonstration of his incompetence.

From the replays of the Cordy bump it doesn't look high. It should be a very straight-forward decision for Christian.

We wont mention Haysey's tackle that got him two weeks

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[Stamos]

Not too sure but it was in the 1st qtr.

2nd quarter.


Pickett got the free kick and kicked a goal.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Umpiring doesn’t affect outcomes of games


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[Michael Jezz]

2nd quarter.


Pickett got the free kick and kicked a goal.

Come on-It is incorrect disposal-free to Melbourne