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No more talk of dropping Butler please.

Higgins may be the talk of the football world for his goals but inside Moorabbin there is not much difference in how he and Dan Butler are rated, despite the latter kicking just five goals.

“Butler’s season goal-wise is not where Higgins is, but pressure-wise it’s miles ahead,” Lade said. “We do challenge both of them. We challenge Butler to hit the scoreboard like Higgins does, but we do challenge Higgins to get as much pressure as Butler does.

“He’s number 1 for pressure inside 50 or in the forward half, number one for tackles inside 50 in the AFL. You take that out of your team, your team defence goes down and you don’t get as many shots on goal.”
 
pebblesofsand said:
No more talk of dropping Butler please.

Higgins may be the talk of the football world for his goals but inside Moorabbin there is not much difference in how he and Dan Butler are rated, despite the latter kicking just five goals.

“Butler’s season goal-wise is not where Higgins is, but pressure-wise it’s miles ahead,” Lade said. “We do challenge both of them. We challenge Butler to hit the scoreboard like Higgins does, but we do challenge Higgins to get as much pressure as Butler does.

“He’s number 1 for pressure inside 50 or in the forward half, number one for tackles inside 50 in the AFL. You take that out of your team, your team defence goes down and you don’t get as many shots on goal.”
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Watching Butler do what he does really makes me want Long back in the forward line to do the same thing. Two of them doing that could take us a long way.
 
Wilksyy said:
Pardon the intrusion and I’m guessing maybe some WA Saints may have shared this but

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Well done Saints. Out of the top 6 teams Saints have had the toughest schedule and are the number 1 team in the comp from the first six weeks.
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had not seen this. so thanks for sharing
 
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sammm said:
www.theroar.com.au

Cool the flag talk, the Saints aren't even guaranteed finalists just yet

Let’s settle down when discussing the Saints. It has been a really impressive start to the season without question and to express concerns, I…
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Thanks for posting, but I’m far from convinced on that argument.

Firstly, one gripe I have recently is when people go back to look at that Freo / Saints game APPARENTLY Freo were in the inaccurate ones who should’ve won the game. Which is utter BS, we were clearer the better team on the day, we kicked 9.11 to their 8.7, and we both had injuries to first 22 players. It’s like people want to think that Freo’s only loss was a game they should’ve won but sorry we soundly beat them.

Secondly, enough of the narrative we haven’t beaten anyone yet. IDGAF if we have away from home Sydney Brisbane Geelong etc because guess what: we beat Brisbane at the Gabba last year, we beat Sydney at marvel last year and very nearly won against them at the SCG, and both of those Geelong games last year we last but arguably that was due to a mix of injuries and our own inability to finish them off. AKA, they’re not only all winnable but we have a recent history of competitiveness against them. It doesn’t matter who we play, we can beat them, and it doesn’t matter where. Fact is, we have started 5-1 and that is worth a whole lot more in value to confidence and team cohesion. Not to mention, the Richmond game was a genuine 50/50 and no one would’ve batted an eye if we lost, and Richmond would get all the praise as a flag contender. Hawthorn have been very good so far and again A LOT of people at the time thought they’d be a good chance to win. Gold Coast just game off beating Carlton, GWS had Greene returning and were fighting for their season etc etc. It doesn’t matter if your playing North at marvel or Geelong in Geelong, every team, every venue, has its difficulties, all varying week to week. A good team, as I like to think we are, ignore the outside rubbish and respects all opponents and only focuses on what the next weeks challenge is. It’s what Ratt’s has been promoting this whole season. If we lose to Melbourne or Geelong it’s going to be sad seeing people come out and claim we are pretenders because that’s such a lazy take. And I hope we prove them wrong come September because there is no doubt this team has the tools to go deep. Everything else is predictions and “hot takes” which have been repeated on end.

At the end of the day, it’s more about what goes on inside the club, inside the players heads, inside the coaching choices, rather then how hard the fixture is or if we are playing a top 4 or bottom 4 side. If you get the inside working consistently and successfully it doesn’t matter what nexts week’s challenge is.

Rant over!
 
sammm said:
www.theroar.com.au

Cool the flag talk, the Saints aren't even guaranteed finalists just yet

Let’s settle down when discussing the Saints. It has been a really impressive start to the season without question and to express concerns, I…
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Interesting take. Spends 80% of the article talking up how good we’re playing and then drops this

‘A potential ten-goal loss against Melbourne looms without change and would be a devastating wake-up call.’

I mean any 10 goal loss would be a wake up call. In fact one to Melbourne would be the least unexpected of any team lol.

But agree we need to just keep winning.
 
Minga said:
Thanks for posting, but I’m far from convinced on that argument.

Firstly, one gripe I have recently is when people go back to look at that Freo / Saints game APPARENTLY Freo were in the inaccurate ones who should’ve won the game. Which is utter BS, we were clearer the better team on the day, we kicked 9.11 to their 8.7, and we both had injuries to first 22 players. It’s like people want to think that Freo’s only loss was a game they should’ve won but sorry we soundly beat them.

Secondly, enough of the narrative we haven’t beaten anyone yet. IDGAF if we have away from home Sydney Brisbane Geelong etc because guess what: we beat Brisbane at the Gabba last year, we beat Sydney at marvel last year and very nearly won against them at the SCG, and both of those Geelong games last year we last but arguably that was due to a mix of injuries and our own inability to finish them off. AKA, they’re not only all winnable but we have a recent history of competitiveness against them. It doesn’t matter who we play, we can beat them, and it doesn’t matter where. Fact is, we have started 5-1 and that is worth a whole lot more in value to confidence and team cohesion. Not to mention, the Richmond game was a genuine 50/50 and no one would’ve batted an eye if we lost, and Richmond would get all the praise as a flag contender. Hawthorn have been very good so far and again A LOT of people at the time thought they’d be a good chance to win. Gold Coast just game off beating Carlton, GWS had Greene returning and were fighting for their season etc etc. It doesn’t matter if your playing North at marvel or Geelong in Geelong, every team, every venue, has its difficulties, all varying week to week. A good team, as I like to think we are, ignore the outside rubbish and respects all opponents and only focuses on what the next weeks challenge is. It’s what Ratt’s has been promoting this whole season. If we lose to Melbourne or Geelong it’s going to be sad seeing people come out and claim we are pretenders because that’s such a lazy take. And I hope we prove them wrong come September because there is no doubt this team has the tools to go deep. Everything else is predictions and “hot takes” which have been repeated on end.

At the end of the day, it’s more about what goes on inside the club, inside the players heads, inside the coaching choices, rather then how hard the fixture is or if we are playing a top 4 or bottom 4 side. If you get the inside working consistently and successfully it doesn’t matter what nexts week’s challenge is.

Rant over!
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Freo had West Coast levels of umpiring too.
 
Armitage2Riewoldt said:
Interesting take. Spends 80% of the article talking up how good we’re playing and then drops this

‘A potential ten-goal loss against Melbourne looms without change and would be a devastating wake-up call.’

I mean any 10 goal loss would be a wake up call. In fact one to Melbourne would be the least unexpected of any team lol.

But agree we need to just keep winning.
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I get that we're untested against the best sides and yes King and Snags can't sustain above the normal amounts of scoring responsibility but to suggest that we are going to lose to Melbourne by 10 goals is just nonsense. I'm sure we have plans to play against different sides in different ways.

The fact that when we choose to change gears we can stifle and attack like the best show's that it's up our sleeve.

Hopefully Ratts learnt from being too obvious in 2020 and is holding us back from showing our full suite of tricks. That said a scoring spread and a few injured players back to sure up depth never goes astray anyway.

The bit where they mention the mids helping defence is straight out of Melbourne and Richmond playbooks so WTF is he on about.
 
Minga said:
Thanks for posting, but I’m far from convinced on that argument.

Firstly, one gripe I have recently is when people go back to look at that Freo / Saints game APPARENTLY Freo were in the inaccurate ones who should’ve won the game. Which is utter BS, we were clearer the better team on the day, we kicked 9.11 to their 8.7, and we both had injuries to first 22 players. It’s like people want to think that Freo’s only loss was a game they should’ve won but sorry we soundly beat them.

Secondly, enough of the narrative we haven’t beaten anyone yet. IDGAF if we have away from home Sydney Brisbane Geelong etc because guess what: we beat Brisbane at the Gabba last year, we beat Sydney at marvel last year and very nearly won against them at the SCG, and both of those Geelong games last year we last but arguably that was due to a mix of injuries and our own inability to finish them off. AKA, they’re not only all winnable but we have a recent history of competitiveness against them. It doesn’t matter who we play, we can beat them, and it doesn’t matter where. Fact is, we have started 5-1 and that is worth a whole lot more in value to confidence and team cohesion. Not to mention, the Richmond game was a genuine 50/50 and no one would’ve batted an eye if we lost, and Richmond would get all the praise as a flag contender. Hawthorn have been very good so far and again A LOT of people at the time thought they’d be a good chance to win. Gold Coast just game off beating Carlton, GWS had Greene returning and were fighting for their season etc etc. It doesn’t matter if your playing North at marvel or Geelong in Geelong, every team, every venue, has its difficulties, all varying week to week. A good team, as I like to think we are, ignore the outside rubbish and respects all opponents and only focuses on what the next weeks challenge is. It’s what Ratt’s has been promoting this whole season. If we lose to Melbourne or Geelong it’s going to be sad seeing people come out and claim we are pretenders because that’s such a lazy take. And I hope we prove them wrong come September because there is no doubt this team has the tools to go deep. Everything else is predictions and “hot takes” which have been repeated on end.

At the end of the day, it’s more about what goes on inside the club, inside the players heads, inside the coaching choices, rather then how hard the fixture is or if we are playing a top 4 or bottom 4 side. If you get the inside working consistently and successfully it doesn’t matter what nexts week’s challenge is.

Rant over!
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Let them fawn over the Dockers, quite frankly I couldn't give a shit who they rank as flag favourites and who they don't. If I had my way I'd want them to keep us under the radar and heap the pressure on the other sides around us.

Probably adds a bit of fire in the belly of our playing group too, not being taken seriously and all that.
 
A part of this article was posted above. Here's the full article. Some good insight. It makes me think the club might have more idea of what's going on than the media. Who would have thought it?

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Nothing cryptic about Jack Higgins’ rising stocks

A cryptocurrency enthusiast, Jack Higgins should be familiar with a volatile market. There have also been wild fluctuations in his on-field stocks. Right now, though, his value could not be higher.
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Nothing cryptic about Jack Higgins’ rising stocks
By Andrew Wu
April 30, 2022

For a footballer who thrives on simplicity, it should then come as a surprise that Jack Higgins is a cryptocurrency enthusiast.

When he and St Kilda’s forwards coach Brendon Lade are not talking shop, there’s a strong chance they will be ribbing each other about the latest rise and fall in Polygons or Terra Lunas bitcoins.

Jack Higgins is one of the in-form small forwards this season.
Jack Higgins is one of the in-form small forwards this season.

“He loves his crypto, he’s right into the crypto world,” Lade, also a dabbler, said. “We talk about it all the time. It’s good to have something to chat about other than footy with him.”

Such is Higgins’ interest in the digital currency, Lade said, he is considering enrolling in short courses to learn more. Given his hobby, Higgins should be familiar with a volatile market. There have also been wild fluctuations in his on-field stocks. Right now, his value could not be higher.

Few footballers have had as turbulent a start to the season as the Saints goalsneak. In round one, there were calls for him to be dropped. Five weeks later, he is the in-form small forward of the competition and one of the main reasons the Saints are riding high.

But the idea that nothing is as good or as bad as it seems rings true in Higgins’ case. Many will recall the play deep in the third quarter against Collingwood where he burned a free Jade Gresham to kick to an outnumbered teammate, which led to boyhood hero Nick Riewoldt and David King calling for his head.

Less remembered is how quickly Higgins learned the error of his ways. Early in the last term, he fired off a handball under pressure to Gresham, who walked in for a goal. A different result would perhaps have driven a different narrative.

“First round of the year, St Kilda lose, you’ve got to have a couple of stories,” Lade said, though he added the incident was highlighted at the three-quarter-time huddle and again in their review the following week.

The lesson has been well learned. Last week, he gave up a set shot from point-blank range to handball to an unopposed Brad Crouch. If the coaches were to be picky, they could direct him to ice the clock and take his full 30 seconds, though Lade acknowledges he did the right thing.

Since round one, Higgins sits third on Champion Data’s chart for scoreboard impact, behind the blue-chip pair of Tom Hawkins and Jeremy Cameron. If there was an All-Australian side named for the first quarter of the season, Higgins would be odds on to sit in a forward pocket.

Just this week, four-time premiership coach Leigh Matthews raised a “red flag” on the number of goals Higgins gets out the back, concerned that he may be prospering from an unwillingness to chase defensively. The coaching great was not far off the mark, though a week late.

In the previous round, Higgins booted a career-best five goals in the win over Gold Coast. Though he polled nine of a possible 10 votes in the AFL coaches’ award, internally he was challenged in another stat - zero tackles.

“All our small forwards know they’re rated on their pressure and the goals are a consequence of that,” Lade said.

“He’s got pretty simple focus on pressure, get to as many contests as he can in the forward line, and whatever happens from there happens. If he gets goals from pressure that’s great but to get 11 pressure points is not good enough for him.

“We brought it up for him. Next week, there were nearly 40. Great work from him to change it around so quickly.

“He knows it’s a part of the game he needs to keep working on. In saying that, he does all the work up the ground and if every now and then he pops out the back for a goal that’s fine by us as long as he’s playing by our structures.”

Higgins may be the talk of the football world for his goals but inside Moorabbin there is not much difference in how he and Dan Butler are rated, despite the latter kicking just five goals.

“Butler’s season goal-wise is not where Higgins is, but pressure-wise it’s miles ahead,” Lade said. “We do challenge both of them. We challenge Butler to hit the scoreboard like Higgins does, but we do challenge Higgins to get as much pressure as Butler does.

“He’s number 1 for pressure inside 50 or in the forward half, number one for tackles inside 50 in the AFL. You take that out of your team, your team defence goes down and you don’t get as many shots on goal.”

The genesis of St Kilda’s rise came midway last year when, after a narrow defeat to Sydney, players and coaches met to drill down on key principles.

It was also a key moment for the former Tiger, who was dubbed “Missy Higgins” in reference to the pop star, to the chagrin of Saints officials, after a wayward 1.6. The perception he had issues in front of goal was not backed up by the numbers. In fact, his 27.16 last year compares favourably in terms of accuracy to his 14.11 this season.

Higgins has tweaked his goalkicking routine, deploying a shorter run-up and getting his head over the ball compared to last year when he leaned back off a longer run. He has also sought help from the Saints’ head of mental health and wellbeing Dr Ben Robbins, who played 92 games with Brisbane and North Melbourne.

The coaches, too, are learning on how to get the best out of Higgins. Adherence to team structures is important, Lade said, but nor do they want to program him like a robot.

At Richmond, he was a court jester. The Saints love his infectious personality but also recognise his serious side. Contrary to his public persona, Higgins is a “footy head”, Lade said, who speaks up often at team meetings.

“I think a lot of people have seen the half-time speeches he did at Richmond, telling jokes, that kind of stuff, we haven’t seen that too much, and we haven’t asked him either,” Lade said.

“We try and take that pressure away from him, we try and let him be himself when he’s around the players.”
 
If anyone brags about how many more flags they have let em know this :
Which teams has players who:
Most goals of all time
Most disposals of all time
Most Marks of all time
Most contested marks of all time
Most Marks inside 50 of all time
And at the time of retirement most tackles of all time but currently also highest average tackles of all time?
All sainters
Interesting our coach averages most clearances of all time
Dougal Howard also second of all time in average 1%ers
For a team starved of success individually we have had some absolute champions
 
PetWussy said:
If anyone brags about how many more flags they have let em know this :
Which teams has players who:
Most goals of all time
Most disposals of all time
Most Marks of all time
Most contested marks of all time
Most Marks inside 50 of all time
And at the time of retirement most tackles of all time but currently also highest average tackles of all time?
All sainters
Interesting our coach averages most clearances of all time
Dougal Howard also second of all time in average 1%ers
For a team starved of success individually we have had some absolute champions
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With all respect, I don't think your argument holds up against Hawks, Tigers, Dons, Pies, Blues supporters, even
against Dogs fans. Just hold your fire and wait until we actually achieve something.
 
PetWussy said:
If anyone brags about how many more flags they have let em know this :
Which teams has players who:
Most goals of all time
Most disposals of all time
Most Marks of all time
Most contested marks of all time
Most Marks inside 50 of all time
And at the time of retirement most tackles of all time but currently also highest average tackles of all time?
All sainters
Interesting our coach averages most clearances of all time
Dougal Howard also second of all time in average 1%ers
For a team starved of success individually we have had some absolute champions
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