Player Watch 2023 AFL Draft Pool Discussion Thread

[Strapping Young Lad]

Same rule applies to this thread as other years, keep it on topic about the kids.
Don’t get bogged down on what other teams might do or where they will finish.

Trade speculation belongs here.
That's also where you can discuss your mock drafts or pick trades.

Any McCabe, Dear or Maginness talk belongs here.

 

[CHUBBSS]

Melbourne had some gall putting forward their woeful deal for Pick 1.

Interesting article either way, seems claims that we were into Watson and no other were unfounded considering we tried at multiple opportunities to leverage our future first. Crazy how much lower a future first is rated than a current pick, but it does go to show that hitting one bird with a stone is worth hitting two with one stone in the bush... or however that goes.

euphemisms run this country

 

[cryptor]

Ok, something to chew on from the draft.

Going to be a few clubs next year wondering if they would have been better off accepting West Coast's F1 - likely pick 1 2024.

Also seems going into draft night without the ability to trade our own F1 without receiving a F3 back may have hindered our ability to put forward an enticing enough offer to clubs.

I wonder if we'd have been able to do a deal with Adelaide for the pick that got Curtin if it had been put to them well before the point it was clear Curtin would be available at that selection. With West Coast offering their own F1 we were never going to outbid them, so it probably required us to roll the dice on where he might slide to. Worst case we'd still have got O'Sullivan.

 

[Sixpence]

Melbourne had some gall putting forward their woeful deal for Pick 1.

North bundling their freebies for Pick 1 was pretty bloody disgraceful too.

 

[smish]

Going to be a few clubs next year wondering if they would have been better off accepting West Coast's F1 - likely pick 1 2024.

Also seems going into draft night without the ability to trade our own F1 without receiving a F3 back may have hindered our ability to put forward an enticing enough offer to clubs.

I wonder if we'd have been able to do a deal with Adelaide for the pick that got Curtin if it had been put to them well before the point it was clear Curtin would be available at that selection. With West Coast offering their own F1 we were never going to outbid them, so it probably required us to roll the dice on where he might slide to. Worst case we'd still have got O'Sullivan.

Good point. Excluding other bits and pieces, GWS essentially chose Pheonix Gothard & James Leake over WCE F1. Unless these players help them win a flag in the next couple of years, that's a bad move.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I don’t think West Coast finish last next year and other clubs likely felt similar. Have a look at their spine.
They had a horrible run with injury and are a proud club. Won’t be at all surprised if they finish outside the bottom 4 if they get their conditioning team sorted.

North on the other hand have a defence that has single gamer Biggie Nyoun as their CHB and Aiden Corr at FB. They are going to get slaughtered almost weekly is my bet.

 

[Cuzz09]

We will hopefully be better but I can't see us being better than many so it'll be a top 4 pick min u would think.

Anything higher and we've had a pretty good year

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[smish]

Davo-27 or any other draft watchers more dedicated than me, how would you rate Ward, Macdonald, Mackenzie, Weddle in this years draft? (pre-draft rankings that is, not exposed form)

 

[TDS7]

Davo-27 or any other draft watchers more dedicated than me, how would you rate Ward, Macdonald, Mackenzie, Weddle in this years draft? (pre-draft rankings that is, not exposed form)

I'd have had Weddle and MacDonald 15-25, Mackenzie and Ward 6-10. Ward and Frenchy both were a step behind this year's big 6, but on par with some of the stragglers like Caddy and O'Sullivan. Weddle and CMac both probably push into the first round this year, both a bit more proven or with more upside than a lot of the talent take around picks in the mid 20s, similar to where Leake and Wilson ended up.

 

[peetoo]

With the talls, kosi Jeka and Ryan out, Chol McCabe dear in may have influenced the recruiting team team that young talls was less of a priority, but getting match winners such as Watson, Ginnivan was

 

[TheFourPillars]

Dear is pretty raw will need time to develop

 

[I got the outside word]

Dear is pretty raw will need time to develop

80 AFL goals in 24 or bust.

 

[Davo-27]

Davo-27 or any other draft watchers more dedicated than me, how would you rate Ward, Macdonald, Mackenzie, Weddle in this years draft? (pre-draft rankings that is, not exposed form)

Weddle was basically Connor O'Sullivan with a bigger tank and a few cms shorter
Ward was rated highly after he out performed Daicos for VM who was clearly the best player ahead of JHF by that time, so he would be on par with a Sanders I guess?
MacDonald was ranked in the 2nd group of mids, so around where Harry Demattia - Billy Wilson range
Mackenzie was rated highly in that next group after the elite 4 in his year and there was an elite 3 this year, so again near the Sanders pick imo

 

[hardway]

Weddle was basically Connor O'Sullivan with a bigger tank and a few cms shorter
Ward was rated highly after he out performed Daicos for VM who was clearly the best player ahead of JHF by that time, so he would be on par with a Sanders I guess?
MacDonald was ranked in the 2nd group of mids, so around where Harry Demattia - Billy Wilson range
Mackenzie was rated highly in that next group after the elite 4 in his year and there was an elite 3 this year, so again near the Sanders pick imo

If Sanders, Ward or McKenzie were in the same draft who would you pick first?

 

[theiaofseed]

I don’t think West Coast finish last next year and other clubs likely felt similar. Have a look at their spine.
They had a horrible run with injury and are a proud club. Won’t be at all surprised if they finish outside the bottom 4 if they get their conditioning team sorted.

North on the other hand have a defence that has single gamer Biggie Nyoun as their CHB and Aiden Corr at FB. They are going to get slaughtered almost weekly is my bet.

Which teams will they leap frog? North sure but Gold Coast should make finals with a decent coach, Hawthorn should improve, Fremantle should bounce back, Richmond's arse end could fall out and same for Geelong. I can't see West coast finishing outside of the bottom 2.

 

[TazHawk15]

Which teams will they leap frog? North sure but Gold Coast should make finals with a decent coach, Hawthorn should improve, Fremantle should bounce back, Richmond's arse end could fall out and same for Geelong. I can't see West coast finishing outside of the bottom 2.

I think they are a very very very good chance to go back2Back, only the Shinbeggers can save them.

 

[hardway]

I think they are a very very very good chance to go back2Back, only the Shinbeggers can save them.

Shinbeggers to concede a score just about 100% of the time from opposition’s forward entries. The tin rattling will be on from round 5.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I think they are a very very very good chance to go back2Back, only the Shinbeggers can save them.

They are almost no chance. seriously go and have a look at their spine in their best 22 and then tell me that is the 18th best team in the competition.

 

[smish]

They are almost no chance. seriously go and have a look at their spine in their best 22 and then tell me that is the 18th best team in the competition.

That's actually a good point SYL, I had WCE pencilled in for the spoon until I had a bit more of a look. The back 6 will be the difference.

Corr, McDonald, Pink, Nyuon, Comben? Goater?

vs

Barrass, McGovern, Yeo, Duggan, Hough

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

That's actually a good point SYL, I had WCE pencilled in for the spoon until I had a bit more of a look. The back 6 will be the difference.

Corr, McDonald, Pink, Nyuon, Comben? Goater?

vs

Barrass, McGovern, Yeo, Duggan, Hough

A spine of McGovern, Barrass, Kelly, Darling and Allen. It’s very good.

 

[hawkmang]

A spine of McGovern, Barrass, Kelly, Darling and Allen. It’s very good.

Realistically McGovern misses about 40-60% of a season these days through injury/soreness and Darling is a shadow of his former self. Still miles better than North though

 

[tl92]

A spine of McGovern, Barrass, Kelly, Darling and Allen. It’s very good.

Allen, Kelly and Darling played almost every game this year. Barass and McGovern played 14 and 9. Its the rest of the team that’s the issue.



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[peetoo]

Dear is pretty raw will need time to develop

The comparison is other talls in this draft. Are any premiership ready?

 

[TheFourPillars]

The comparison is other talls in this draft. Are any premiership ready?

Lol mate a bit more to it than that. He is not AFL ready let alone premiership ready

 

[FB19]

Yep if they are on the park
Yeo barrass duggan
Reid McGovern jones
Gaff sheed Chesser
Flynn kelly ginbey
Ryan Allen Cripps
Brockman darling maric
Bench from
Hunt hewett Long petrucelle waterman Williams Hough Cole hall culley
That should be competitive side. That beats north.

 

[peetoo]

Lol mate a bit more to it than that. He is not AFL ready let alone premiership ready

Yet that seems to be how the club sees it. That was my point of view, not what I think should have happened