List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[dosser]

Let's keep count so far we've swung and missed on

Naughton
Crouch
Mckay
Barrass
Dow (possibly)

Anyone else?

At least we can't accuse the club of not trying, they've come out swinging this year

Himmelberg

 

[KingV23]

Let's keep count so far we've swung and missed on

Naughton
Crouch
Mckay
Barrass
Dow (possibly)

Anyone else?

At least we can't accuse the club of not trying, they've come out swinging this year

Doedee

 

[Punts]

Let's keep count so far we've swung and missed on

Naughton
Crouch
Mckay
Barrass
Dow (possibly)

Anyone else?

At least we can't accuse the club of not trying, they've come out swinging this year

There definitely trying

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Cashed up but no one wants to come

If that offer is real we will get someone big within 1-2yrs.

 

[GoTheSwannies]

a) because we aparently "can't have everyone", and
b) we're not Geelong

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

a) because we aparently "can't have everyone", and
b) we're not Geelong

I did lol a little seeing Geelong interested in Naughton.

 

[dosser]

There definitely trying

You are right. Anyone who says we aren't trying hard enough or are inept, etc needs to understand how difficult it is to pry someone out from another club - it sounds like we are offering monster deals as well, however the original clubs are matching.

 

[Ticky009]

I don't mind forcing clubs to pay market value - god knows we have to pay overs so fair call is what I say.

 

[SSwans2011]

I've heard that the McKay rumours were overblown. Apparently our interest cooled pretty much as soon as we found out how much it was going to cost.

We can't even be sure there was any substance to the other rumours. There's been a few players we've been linked to that we immediately quashed. A lot of it is just journalists seeing list holes and thinking "well that makes sense".

Generally doesn't seem like there's many big name players on the move and that's probablu why someone like McKay has the offers in front of him that he does - though I still think he could have been a handy asset for us.

Rather we just keep the money and restructure contracts so we can have another crack next year rather than overpaying for someone out of desperation.

 

[ashep]

We're going to land a million dollar player who has the potential to transform our entire midfield and people will find a way to be disappointed in our offseason.

 

[sataris]

ITT: Heeney, is taking $800,000,000 of the salary cap.

Also ITT: We're cashed up to our eyeballs and nobody wants to come.

 

[Ticky009]

I've heard that the McKay rumours were overblown. Apparently our interest cooled pretty much as soon as we found out how much it was going to cost.

We can't even be sure there was any substance to the other rumours. There's been a few players we've been linked to that we immediately quashed. A lot of it is just journalists seeing list holes and thinking "well that makes sense".

Generally doesn't seem like there's many big name players on the move and that's probablu why someone like McKay has the offers in front of him that he does - though I still think he could have been a handy asset for us.

Rather we just keep the money and restructure contracts so we can have another crack next year rather than overpaying for someone out of desperation.

The Naughton one I've got 2 diff sources and those amounts were about right, this was about 3 months ago.

 

[SSwans2011]

ITT: Heeney, is taking $800,000,000 of the salary cap.

Also ITT: We're cashed up to our eyeballs and nobody wants to come.

Yeah, but imagine if we let him go. We'd be able to sign every single A-grader in the comp.

 

[SSwans2011]

The Naughton one I've got 2 diff sources and those amounts were about right, this was about 3 months ago.

Even with Naughton, we at least forced the Bulldogs to pay up.

I don't think we can really treat missing out on him as a failure given what the Bulldogs had to pay, and given he never really expressed an interest in leaving.

 

[Wolfgang West]

We're going to land a million dollar player who has the potential to transform our entire midfield and people will find a way to be disappointed in our offseason.

Exactly.

Grundy is coming, Midfield will get better without still being A+ and defence will be again solid. We will improve. That improvement should be enough with luck and consistency from our top liners to be top 4. From there we are a chance. You don't have to be laiden with Superstars on every line to win the thing. Pies certainly were not. They have players on every line that turn up week in week out and turn up and buy in to a plan. We are out there shopping and thats good but we ain't buying no flag by wasting money on a Bum like Naughton. Let him stay at the tin rattlers. Well suited.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Exactly.

Grundy is coming, Midfield will get better without still being A+ and defence will be again solid. We will improve. That improvement should be enough with luck and consistency from our top liners to be top 4. From there we are a chance. You don't have to be laiden with Superstars on every line to win the thing. Pies certainly were not. They have players on every line that turn up week in week out and turn up and buy in to a plan. We are out there shopping and thats good but we ain't buying no flag by wasting money on a Bum like Naughton. Let him stay at the tin rattlers. Well suited.

Still I would like more reinforcement in that area.

Melican, Tommy and Rampe all missed significant amount of games this season.

 

[rustycrate]

Even with Naughton, we at least forced the Bulldogs to pay up.

I don't think we can really treat missing out on him as a failure given what the Bulldogs had to pay, and given he never really expressed an interest in leaving.

And what they can spend on other players going forward has been reduced because we threatened to sign them. Win.
Next few seasons they have less cap to spend.
We like our job keeping the bastards honest.

 

[Bloods86]

We're going to land a million dollar player who has the potential to transform our entire midfield and people will find a way to be disappointed in our offseason.

Former AA ruck, under 30, big upgrade on current stocks

Mid who played 25, 22 and 18 games in a flag side, and 2 subsequent Top 4 sides

And possibly KPD depth, former flag winner and despite past injuries, played a full year, one of the WAFLs best KPDs, just had a good defence to break into at senior level.

No-one wants to come, it's a disaster apparently. Keeping in mind that zero FA or trade periods are open yet.

 

[Millky95]

Former AA ruck, under 30, big upgrade on current stocks

Mid who played 25, 22 and 18 games in a flag side, and 2 subsequent Top 4 sides

And possibly KPD depth, former flag winner and despite past injuries, played a full year, one of the WAFLs best KPDs, just had a good defence to break into at senior level.

No-one wants to come, it's a disaster apparently. Keeping in mind that zero FA or trade periods are open yet.

WhY hASn't GrUndy NOmInATEd US yEt?

 

[Bloods86]

WhY hASn't GrUndy NOmInATEd US yEt?

Beatson probably asked what his skin folds were in their last chat

 

[bedford]

Sydney offered Naughton 10 years at $11 mill being claimed lol

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

Sydney offered Naughton 10 years at $11 mill being claimed lol

Fake?

 

[Donza]

Fake?

Tom Morris "facts".

 

[bedford]

Exactly.

Grundy is coming, Midfield will get better without still being A+ and defence will be again solid. We will improve. That improvement should be enough with luck and consistency from our top liners to be top 4. From there we are a chance. You don't have to be laiden with Superstars on every line to win the thing. Pies certainly were not. They have players on every line that turn up week in week out and turn up and buy in to a plan. We are out there shopping and thats good but we ain't buying no flag by wasting money on a Bum like Naughton. Let him stay at the tin rattlers. Well suited.

I'd give Reg 2 number 9

 

[bedford]

Tom Morris "facts".

Might ask him in a couple of hours