List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[Tedeski]

I do not attack or demean other posters.

I enjoy debating with and learning from other fans.

Yes.
I've noticed plenty of attacking of posters from a few on here of late.

I've been on here for a few years now so I have changed my feelings accordingly about the club etc as time has passed over these 17 years I have posted.
I used to get attacked by some for being too positive. Now I get attacked for being too negative.
I get attacked for my thoughts on Buddy.

Fair go people. It's just an opinion & I have every right to express that opinion without being called a piss weak supporter etc.

Sorry but you need to pull your heads in with this crap if you do it.
If anyone continues with the personal crap to me, then I get personal too, which I have done in the past which is also not on.
Attack the opinion but not the poster.

Having said that, apart from the heat of a game day thread when everyone is emotional about how a game is going, myself included, I see no reason why people get so personal when nothing is happening or because someone thinks a player should retire or be traded etc, etc.

Enjoy Grand Final Day.
Go Bloods.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Agreed. Hope the midfield depth improves the reserves in 2024 so last years draftees can show their abilities as this year injuries and structural deficits were a hindrance.

I was and remain a big Lewy Taylor fan, more as a person who tackled adversity growing up. He may not have had the best body for footy but was brave, smart, got the best out of himself and seemed an uncomplaining team player. Lewy is the sort of fella we should prioritise on our VFL list. Watching him in the Ressies, he helped develop those around him as did Sinkers.

List spots are already tight and we are looking to bring in up to 4 players. This means none of our uncontracted list players will remain. Of those I hope we keep Clarkey as a listed VFL player.

Yes.
I've noticed plenty of attacking of posters from a few on here of late.

I've been on here for a few years now so I have changed my feelings accordingly about the club etc as time has passed over these 17 years I have posted.
I used to get attacked by some for being too positive. Now I get attacked for being too negative.
I get attacked for my thoughts on Buddy.

Fair go people. It's just an opinion & I have every right to express that opinion without being called a piss weak supporter etc.

Sorry but you need to pull your heads in with this crap if you do it.
If anyone continues with the personal crap to me, then I get personal too, which I have done in the past which is also not on.
Attack the opinion but not the poster.

Having said that, apart from the heat of a game day thread when everyone is emotional about how a game is going, myself included, I see no reason why people get so personal when nothing is happening or because someone thinks a player should retire or be traded etc, etc.

Enjoy Grand Final Day.
Go Bloods.

hahaha. Love ya Ted and still enjoy you have kept Sunnybrook Farm. You always present interesting well argued views and it is fun when we agree.

And of course I agree we should debate the opinion and not attack the person.

 

[bedford]

Yes.
I've noticed plenty of attacking of posters from a few on here of late.

I've been on here for a few years now so I have changed my feelings accordingly about the club etc as time has passed over these 17 years I have posted.
I used to get attacked by some for being too positive. Now I get attacked for being too negative.
I get attacked for my thoughts on Buddy.

Fair go people. It's just an opinion & I have every right to express that opinion without being called a piss weak supporter etc.

Sorry but you need to pull your heads in with this crap if you do it.
If anyone continues with the personal crap to me, then I get personal too, which I have done in the past which is also not on.
Attack the opinion but not the poster.

Having said that, apart from the heat of a game day thread when everyone is emotional about how a game is going, myself included, I see no reason why people get so personal when nothing is happening or because someone thinks a player should retire or be traded etc, etc.

Enjoy Grand Final Day.
Go Bloods.

He's not one to agree with

 

[Tedeski]

He's not one to agree with

But that's my choice Bedders.
Hence why I have my own account & not one linked to yours or anyone else.
We all should agree & disagree with each other without any concerns.
Sure we can have a crack in jest, but it's nasty at times & I come here for some downtime away from pressures of everything else in life. Just my thoughts & not meaning to lecture.
I too need to settle down on here as there can be a bit of carry on with certain topics.

 

[BloodySwan]

Jordon and Dow would be an improvement on Stephens and Clarke

 

[strauchanie59]

Increasing depth can only be a good thing for everyone involved. The stronger our reserves team is, the more confidence these younger/fringe players are going to have and, hopefully, that pushes their development on and increases the pressure on those selected in the best 23.

 

[bedford]

But that's my choice Bedders.
Hence why I have my own account & not one linked to yours or anyone else.
We all should agree & disagree with each other without any concerns.
Sure we can have a crack in jest, but it's nasty at times & I come here for some downtime away from pressures of everything else in life. Just my thoughts & not meaning to lecture.
I too need to settle down on here as there can be a bit of carry on with certain topics.

My issue is how quick things get off topic.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Jordon and Dow would be an improvement on Stephens and Clarke

Agree.

Am sad about Stephens who I still think will have a pretty decent career ( though he’d be better off at West Coast than the hopeless tin rattlers).

No doubt Jordon and Dow are upgrades on Clarke. Hope they get 100% from themselves as Clarkey did with his very modest level of talent.

 

[brad cooper]

Big off season this one, the nucleus of a great team is there, just need to find the missing pieces. Grundy obviously would address one of those, would still love us to find a mature key defender.

 

[Ticky009]

Honestly the criticism of our midfield is starting to really fan fiction proportions.

It’s nowhere near as bad as some would have you think. Especially given we haven’t had a consistently quality/fit ruckman for a long time now.


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Bonus points for the fan fiction shout out.

 

[something]

Who remembers JPK and Ben McGylnn? A couple of plodders from the Hawks who couldn't get a look in...many would have said when they were traded.

If Jordon and Dow do come here, they are not coming as ressie depth, and the rest is up to them! Great things could happen. Both are coming from strong systems, strong team mates and good coaching. They're moneyball signings.

 

[Shaq_01]

Not many think so but there is some real potential and/or solid role players in that 25-40 bracket. ZZ, Reid, Friejah, Stevens, Moir, Evans, C Edwards, Morris etc. Reckon in hindsight this draft will surprise.

We've had some retirements but list spots look tight this year with trades and free agents.

I have said that for several months now.

Many are underestimating this draft especially the 20 to 40 range

Our Clearly might even fall out of top 40

Nothing special

 

[bedford]

moneyball lol

 

[Shaq_01]

If we still have our first pick, I just want a slider who was touted as top 10.

Moir Archer Reid and Tholstup were all considered top 10 in Jan / Feb 2023

 

[Kiama Chris]

Jordon and Dow would be an improvement on Stephens and Clarke

Different animals though. They will certainly change the skills mix of the 18-28 player group and might improve the VFL side.
With any luck they might even push themselves higher in the pecking order.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

I have said that for several months now.

Many are underestimating this draft especially the 20 to 40 range

Our Clearly might even fall out of top 40

Nothing special

I think our strike rate between 25-40 has been pretty decent over the years

Gulden, Chad, McInerney, Rowbottom, McCartin, Corey W, Roberts

 

[Kiama Chris]

Moir Archer Reid and Tholstup were all considered top 10 in Jan / Feb 2023

Archer Reid please. A slow burner but you can't teach height. 203cm and 93kg.

 

[Jewelsbon]

Bailey Smith? i thought he was heading to Geelong.

He's a bit young for them isn't he?

 

[Dubai Quacker]

Moir Archer Reid and Tholstup were all considered top 10 in Jan / Feb 2023

People I know who are involved in the WAFL reckon Tholstrup will surprise quite a few.

Been playing league WAFL (not colts) all year & is VERY highly rated in the West.

 

[DST]

Honestly the criticism of our midfield is starting to really fan fiction proportions.

It’s nowhere near as bad as some would have you think. Especially given we haven’t had a consistently quality/fit ruckman for a long time now.


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Agree the difference between our 2022 midfield and our 2023 midfield is literally a bee’s d@ck.


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[Membling]

People I know who are involved in the WAFL reckon Tholstrup will surprise quite a few.

Been playing league WAFL (not colts) all year & is VERY highly rated in the West.

Tholstrup has been very good across all levels and is very versatile which has been our MO too

 

[The King!]

at least the team are making noises about improving the team

could go no where but it's a different vibe

 

[Bandicoot]

What do people think Port's future first is worth?

If we all agree the first drop off in quality is before (edit) our first, should we be thinking of hunting a future? I wouldn't give up our first but maybe if we can get 19 for Stephens, thst with our 22 should do it

As was said in the movie the castle "tell em their dreaming".

 

[Bandicoot]

Both our current seconds should get it done.

Asides, if we get anywhere near 19 for Stephens, we should take it and run

Why would Port offer their future first, possibly as high as 16 for our second round pick which will be around 26?

 

[wills2g]

the goal should be to have enough midfield depth that we dont need paps in there