List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[the hypnotoad]

Haha .. reckon they are opposites as people.

McLean works hard. I've never seen any press suggesting Joel has an interest in training.

that's a bit harsh ...

 

[Jimbo OZ]

I may not have been clear enough. I rate Buller highly, but I don't rate a forward line of Buller, Reid and Ladhams. Effectively it's just Buller, with Reid most likely on the sidelines and Ladhams no longer seeming like a viable forward option at any level.

And since Buller is an Amartey injury away from seniors, we need to draft a KPF. Sounds like we're delisting any other forward targets in Gould, HHK, Owen, and even if Reid stays on, we should have zero faith in his body and he's over 30, so need to add another to the pipeline.

Perhaps but I don’t think it’s as dire as you make it. Francis is also likely to play more VFL than AFL and he can provide tall structure up forward too in the VFL. Losing Gould and HHK is not the end of the world. We have enough structure now to allow our young mids to develop.

 

[Mister B]

I have no idea where we are at with cap space especially with the increase in TPP but presuming we were to pick up both Grundy and Adams, my greatest concern is having the cash to then hold on to both McDonald and Gulden at the price they deserve presuming EG maintains his performance and Logan improves. End of next year we may free up whatever Reid is paid if we keep him on this coming season and maybe Parker if he was to go off the cliff.

 

[Swannie0307]

I like how the 565108 post has been deemed gospel.

Poor man’s Sparklelord?

I asked him who is source was and he said Charlie Gardiner??

 

[Wheresbuddy]

Rankin, clarke,Hall-Khan, Owen, Gould and Sheather all have been delisted


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If true, suggests Reid gets another year. None of these would surprise me although I thought I saw something in Gould as a forward to suggest another year. But by the same token, understand if he's been de-listed - he's had a while to prove himself.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

If true, suggests Reid gets another year. None of these would surprise me although I thought I saw something in Gould as a forward to suggest another year. But by the same token, understand if he's been de-listed - he's had a while to prove himself.

He's may not necessarily be delisted, rather he may just retire. And if he's interested, maybe move into a development or coaching role?

 

[TheMase]

I like how the 565108 post has been deemed gospel.

Poor man’s Sparklelord?

If you look at their posts you’ll see 100% posts in Swans threads despite labelled a Giants fan. A few correct predictions.

Gould involved in posts a number of times might suggest he could be their connection…

Interesting

 

[TheMase]

If true, suggests Reid gets another year. None of these would surprise me although I thought I saw something in Gould as a forward to suggest another year. But by the same token, understand if he's been de-listed - he's had a while to prove himself.

Sometimes we have multiple lost announcements, some before and some after draft.

His position may depend on other movements if they come to fruition.

 

[Tomorrow]

Mills will spend most of the 1st half of next season on the long term injury list imo...

 

[565108]

If you look at their posts you’ll see 100% posts in Swans threads despite labelled a Giants fan. A few correct predictions.

Gould involved in posts a number of times might suggest he could be their connection…

Interesting

Haha way off


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[Dubai Quacker]

Haha way off


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5+6+5+10+8=34.

The poster is evidently Giants no.34, Josh Fahey, who is Charlie Gardiner’s nephew twice removed.

Mystery solved.

 

[the hypnotoad]

I asked him who is source was and he said Charlie Gardiner??

there's a sauce gardner in the nfl, now we have a source gardiner

 

[Parky79]

Not one of our unsigned players will make a difference to winning a flag or not. Top up time!!

 

[Bloods86]

Perhaps but I don’t think it’s as dire as you make it. Francis is also likely to play more VFL than AFL and he can provide tall structure up forward too in the VFL. Losing Gould and HHK is not the end of the world. We have enough structure now to allow our young mids to develop.

We came into 2023 with the same numbers of talls, one more actually, and how did that go? That includes the MSD picks, Grundy, Hamling. We have significant reliability issues over some players, so drafting to develop in the VFL is important, so that we don't have the same issues at that level now, and senior level soon. Not drafting given the question marks over all our KPDs, Amartey, Ladhams, with Reid and Rampe near the end, would be yet another year we fail to learn the lesson.

 

[Shaq_01]

The only surprising part is Reid isn't on that list

Reid was never gonna be on it

When fit - he is a outstanding player still

He can play back forward ruck

Only genuine swing man we have

 

[Jewelsbon]

Rubbish might be a bit strong - but I’ve seen nothing yet to suggest Indhi Kirk is worthy of a list spot.

History shows that the club pretty much thought the same about his father at Indhi's age......

He turned out okay.

 

[RUNVS]

Reid was never gonna be on it

When fit - he is a outstanding player still

He can play back forward ruck

Only genuine swing man we have

When he is fit sure, but he has not been fit in a while and he lied about how fit he was for the 2022 Grand Final.

 

[Adnico26Parker]

CARLTON midfielder Paddy Dowappears set to request a trade to St Kilda, after Sydney's interest in the uncontracted Blue did not progress.

Dogs look at flag Dee, Saints close on Blue, latest on Giant

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[The King!]

When he is fit sure, but he has not been fit in a while and he lied about how fit he was for the 2022 Grand Final.

Reid lied?

 

[Shaq_01]

4 years for JJ

Contract worth too 50% of players at the club

 

[ashep]

Even accounting for his injury history, I'm shocked by people's indifference to Reid.

Take the player he was in the second half of '22, and he'd be the best 'recruit' we've been linked to for next year. Ahead of McKay, Barass, Dow, TDK, Adams, Hamling, Jordon, and yeah, maybe even Grundy.

I get that people think he's unreliable but a 1 year deal is an absolute no brainer.

 

[Cadsky]

CARLTON midfielder Paddy Dowappears set to request a trade to St Kilda, after Sydney's interest in the uncontracted Blue did not progress.

Dogs look at flag Dee, Saints close on Blue, latest on Giant

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

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Bugger. Seems we're all in on Adams.

 

[BloodySwan]

Disappointed if we miss out on Dow. The idea of getting 2 contested players in Dow and Adams had me real excited for our future.

 

[Bloods86]

Even accounting for his injury history, I'm shocked by people's indifference to Reid.

Take the player he was in the second half of '22, and he'd be the best 'recruit' we've been linked to for next year. Ahead of McKay, Barass, Dow, TDK, Adams, Hamling, Jordon, and yeah, maybe even Grundy.

I get that people think he's unreliable but a 1 year deal is an absolute no brainer.

I'm not dismissing his ability, but even if we keep him for another year, when it comes to drafting and trading we should pretend he doesn't exist.

And when to comes to drafting, that includes Rampe.

 

[SSwans2011]

Even accounting for his injury history, I'm shocked by people's indifference to Reid.

Take the player he was in the second half of '22, and he'd be the best 'recruit' we've been linked to for next year. Ahead of McKay, Barass, Dow, TDK, Adams, Hamling, Jordon, and yeah, maybe even Grundy.

I get that people think he's unreliable but a 1 year deal is an absolute no brainer.

Reid and McLean in the same forward line would cause some serious headaches for the opposition if they can recapture their form from 2022 and 2023 respectively

That'd comfortably be the best contested marking forward duo in the comp I reckon.

Would give McDonald a very nice run at it too, likely getting the weakest key defender each week.