List Mgmt. 2023 Draft & Trade Hypotheticals

[Ticky009]

Key Dates:

Trade Period, October 6–18

• Restricted & Unrestricted Free Agency Period: Friday, October 6, 9am – Friday October 13, 5pm (bid matching ends Monday October 16, 5pm)
• Trade Period (1), picks & players: Monday, October 9, 9am – Wednesday October 18, 7.30pm

Quiet Period, October 19–November 20

• Trade Period (2), picks only: Monday, October 23, 9am – Friday November 10, 5pm
• List Lodgement 1*: Tuesday, October 31, 2pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (1): Wednesday, November 1, 9am – Wednesday November 8, 5pm
• Delisted Free Agency Period (2): Friday, November 10, 9am–5pm
• List Lodgement 2*: Tuesday, November 14, 2pm

Draft Period, November 20–22

• Round 1 of the National Draft: Monday, November 20, time and venue TBA
• Trade Period (3), picks only: Tuesday, November 21, 5.45pm–6.30pm
• Round 2–end of the National Draft: Tuesday, November 21, 7pm until completion
• Rookie Promotions: Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• Delisted Free Agency Period (3): Tuesday, November 21, after the National Draft
• List Lodgement 3*: Wednesday, November 22, 10am (optional; required for those participating in the PSD)
• Pre-Season Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3pm
• Rookie Draft: Wednesday, November 22, 3.20pm
• Final List Lodgement*: Thursday, November 23, 4pm

* List lodgement dates are yet to be made public, so are approximate based on past history and the requirements of the AFL Rules. When lists are lodged, the number of players on the list must not exceed maximum list sizes. At the same time, clubs must provide the AFL with estimates of total player payments in the current and following year, which must prove the club is not and will not exceed the salary cap. (AFL Rules 5.3, 6.1, 6.8, 7.2, 7.9)

 

[Wheresbuddy]

McKay for the first year of his front loaded contract will earn $1.5m.

He will be absolutely crucified by Dons supporters if he is anything short of elite.

 

[Syd]

McKay for the first year of his front loaded contract will earn $1.5m.

EssenDUMB

There'd be some seriously pissed off players there knowing he gets that kind of money walking in the door.

 

[Shaq_01]

That 15 to 40 space is very eve.

Few months ago i said 20 to 40 was a very even space and could hold a few gems

That’s before our trade period

And yes we will most likely only do two picks this session as I reckon Reid will be re signed - something I said when he was put on LTI

Honestly even though Caden may get through to us in the 30s early 40s

And he is a local boy and etc

I think there will be a few really good gems in the 20 to 40

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Bet Murphy goes to Norf with one of their late teen picks if they still have them.

We should take him if available

 

[Dubsforsam1]

EssenDUMB

There'd be some seriously pissed off players there knowing he gets that kind of money walking in the door.

Yes but he is then getting maybe $600k for the rest of the contract so it evens out

 

[ShireSwan]

EssenDUMB

There'd be some seriously pissed off players there knowing he gets that kind of money walking in the door.

What could they possibly think to themselves? "I've lead this team to 5 losing seasons in a row, I deserve that cash"?

 

[Syd]

Yes but he is then getting maybe $600k for the rest of the contract so it evens out

Understand, but 1.5 Large next year is still insane.

 

[DST]

Another confirmation indicator that we are not splitting our pick 12 and taking two players before Cleary.

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[Ticky009]

Another confirmation indicator that we are not splitting our pick 12 and taking two players before Cleary.

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Splitting pick 12 is insane considering we fought tooth and nail to keep it during this trade period and I'm still utterly bemused people think its a good idea.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Splitting pick 12 is insane considering we fought tooth and nail to keep it during this trade period and I'm still utterly bemused people think its a good idea.

Jeez thanks lol

Still think it’s a good idea as I do rate the players slightly below our selection.

 

[Ticky009]

Jeez thanks lol

Still think it’s a good idea as I do rate the players slightly below our selection.

I get some people think its a good idea, but I've heard you're logic and can't agree with it given the evidence that we could have split pick 12 multiple times in the trade period but chose not to.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I get some people think its a good idea, but I've heard you're logic and can't agree with it given the evidence that we could have split pick 12 multiple times in the trade period but chose not to.

Pick swaps are generally after the trade period to be fair. I don’t feel we do trade down just hope we don’t trade up and waste resources

 

[Ticky009]

Pick swaps are generally after the trade period to be fair. I don’t feel we do trade down just hope we don’t trade up and waste resources

If we trade up it won't be pick 12 either, I reckon. While everyone is jockeying to get into the top 10 we have far too little draft capital to get any of them to move.

 

[SGBeach]

Splitting pick 12 is insane considering we fought tooth and nail to keep it during this trade period and I'm still utterly bemused people think its a good idea.

I liked my idea of trading down to improve our future hand..
p12 for North p18 + p57 + F 2nd (North might need p12 to get p1?)
p45 + p55 + F p19 for Suns F p10 (tied to Dogs). Suns will need those points

Swans end up with..
A future upgrade from p19 into the first round + a good future 2nd round and only drop from p12 to p18 this year.

p18 for Schoenmaker or ZZ
p57 to match bid on Cleary (any excess points can come from norths future 2nd which will only drop a spot or two)
Swans get to death ride the dogs

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If we trade up it won't be pick 12 either, I reckon. While everyone is jockeying to get into the top 10 we have far too little draft capital to get any of them to move.

Agree it’s what I’ve been saying all along. Our two realistic options are take pick 12 or trade down and split (either both this year or one this year and a future)

 

[bedford]

I get some people think its a good idea, but I've heard you're logic and can't agree with it given the evidence that we could have split pick 12 multiple times in the trade period but chose not to.

Are you really surprised ?

 

[Ticky009]

Are you really surprised ?

Its a hypothetical thread - the entire purpose of this thread is propose trade & draft possibilities - so I'm actually pleased people embrace the context of the thread and participate.

People are allowed to get as outrageous as they like, and others are okay to disagree so long as its respectful.

 

[mtooler]

Splitting 12 doesn't make sense for two picks this year, we have 1 live pick, Cleary and rookie upgrade.

Splitting it for a 1st rounder for this year and next year though, different kettle of fish.

 

[bedford]

Its a hypothetical thread - the entire purpose of this thread is propose trade & draft possibilities - so I'm actually pleased people embrace the context of the thread and participate.

People are allowed to get as outrageous as they like, and others are okay to disagree so long as its respectful.

That's why i said it , i'm glad your pleased Ticks. How long to go ?

 

[Ticky009]

That's why i said it , i'm glad your pleased Ticks. How long to go ?

Just look at the sticky at the top of the page.... and the answer is too long.

 

[rustycrate]

Just look at the sticky at the top of the page.... and the answer is too long.

How long is a piece of string?

 

[Dubai Quacker]

How long is a piece of string?

Nominally 50m.

Unless it’s SCG string, in which case it’s only 45.

 

[anotherletdown]

Splitting pick 12 is insane considering we fought tooth and nail to keep it during this trade period and I'm still utterly bemused people think its a good idea.

If we had to fight tooth and nail then there was obviously clubs having a lend and we must be considered mugs to try that on

 

[Bandicoot]

I get some people think its a good idea, but I've heard you're logic and can't agree with it given the evidence that we could have split pick 12 multiple times in the trade period but chose not to.

Hypothectical!! Geelong are on the clock for their pick 8 which has become pick 10. O'Sullivan is still available.
Do we go to Geelong and offer them our pick 12 and the future end of first round we got from North?
I suppose it depends on who or what Geelong want. If they also want O'Sullivan it is all moot.

 

[Bloods86]

Hypothectical!! Geelong are on the clock for their pick 8 which has become pick 10. O'Sullivan is still available.
Do we go to Geelong and offer them our pick 12 and the future end of first round we got from North?
I suppose it depends on who or what Geelong want. If they also want O'Sullivan it is all moot.

Maybe, but they could get better offers.

In any case the Cats will run down the draft clock until we give them our future 5th (85) as well.