Discussion 2023 Fixture

[Miha]

Have people forgotten we played Port at an empty Marvel in 2021? Disgusting game

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Have people forgotten we played Port at an empty Marvel in 2021? Disgusting game

If no one was there did it really happen?

 

[dudeintheswamp]

It does look like the most favourable draw we've had for some years. So many changes at the Saints with the new season approaching, right now it seems impossible to predict how it'll unfold. I remember reading somewhere a while ago that with every new season there's at least two teams, often three, that fall out of the eight from year to year. Thinking about that with this year's finalists, you'd think the most likely teams to be replaced in the eight might be maybe the dogs and tigers, possibly Freo? Wouldn't be too surprised to see Melbourne take a little dip either, or the pies.

I'd expect Carlton to push into the eight, Port too, and think the Suns might well have their best season yet. Hopefully we're in the mix there somewhere, a couple of early wins could set us up nicely.

 

[hangdog]

50/50 - R1 STK VS FREM 4.40PM MARVEL
50/50 - R2 WB VS STK 7.25PM MARVEL
Win - R3 STK VS ESS 7.25PM MCG
Win - R4 STK VS GCS 7.25PM MARVEL
50/50 - R5 COLL VS STK 4.20PM AO
50/50 - R6 CARL VS STK 3.20PM MARVEL
Win - R7 STK VS PA 7.50PM MARVEL
Win - R8 NM VS STK 4.40PM MARVEL
Win - R9 ADEL VS STK 12.40PM AO
Win - R10 GWS VS STK 4.40PM GIANTS
Win - R11 STK VS HAW 1.45PM MARVEL
R12 BYE
Loss - R13 SYD VS STK 7.20PM SCG
Loss - R14 RICH VS STK 7.25PM MCG
Loss - R15 STK VS BL 7.50PM MARVEL
Win - R16 WCE VS STK OPTUS
50/50 - R17 STK VS MELB MARVEL
Win - R18 GCS VS STK METRICON
Win - R19 STK VS NM MARVEL
Win - R20 HAW VS STK MARVEL
50/50 - R21 STK VS CARL MARVEL
50/50 - R22 STK VS RICH MARVEL
50/50 - R23 STK VS GEEL MARVEL
Loss - R24 BL VS STK GABBA

8 x 50/50
11 x Win
4 x Loss

I'm strangely confident we beat quite a few of the the 50/50 sides, especially at Marvel against Carlton, Richmond and WB. Hell, aren't we actually the last team to beat Geelong (at Marvel)?

I can see a clear bottom 4 in WC, Ess, Nth and Haw. Crom, GWS, PA, GC in the next 4 from the bottom. Gets pretty even after that. Saints, Dogs, Blues and Rich inn the middle. Coll, Freo, Cats, Dees, Swans and Lions top 6. I expect Lions and Dees to be the best 2.

 

[stfan]

We actually got a FAIR Fixture for a change based on our ladder position, after year's of copping fixtures harder than our ladder position.

 

[aussierulesrules]

We actually got a FAIR Fixture for a change based on our ladder position, after year's of copping fixtures harder than our ladder position.

Our 2020 fixture was actually fantastic from memory (definitely very good, with lots of games scheduled for Marvel), but then that all went out the window with Covid, and everyone just played each other once.

Then they gave us the hardest fixture in the comp two years running!

 

[mad-saint-guy]

Nice change from the last couple of years. If we're half decent we should sneak into the finals.

 

[Joffaboy]

St Kilda Saints​

Thursday Nights: 1
Friday Nights: 2
Marquee Match-Ups: Ross vs Fremantle in rd 1 (Marvel Stadium), 150th.
Who You Play Twice: Gold Coast, Carlton, North Melbourne, Richmond, Hawthorn, Brisbane.
When Is Your Bye?: round 12
Defining Stretch: Ross Lyon’s Saints might need to be 13-6 after round 20 to play finals — because August games against Carlton, Richmond, Geelong and Brisbane (Gabba) is a scarier finish than The Blair Witch Project. The mood for the 150th birthday party against Essendon at the MCG in round 3 will be set by what happens in a tough opening fortnight against finalists Freo and the Dogs. Contrast the vibe at 2-0 or 0-2.
Expected Finish: 8th-12th
Difficulty RatingSam Landsberger4Avg Fan Rating5
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Carlton, Geelong, Richmond and Brisbane, yeah good teams that we beat except Brisbane and poor kicking.
Why will they improve and we won't?

 

[Joffaboy]

Still not a good draw financially, 5 of the first 15 games are Sunday afternoon games, 4 of which are 4.40 starts.

 

[austinnn]

Would this draw have put Ratts into finals?

Absolutely

 

[sunny3193]

Absolutely

Are you celebrating, commiserating or conflicted?

 

[austinnn]

Are you celebrating, commiserating or conflicted? 󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

Wrong thread, but I thought the result cruel but fair. I was going for England but not hugely invested.

 

[saintmike65]

Still not a good draw financially, 5 of the first 15 games are Sunday afternoon games, 4 of which are 4.40 starts.

Success and playing good, attractive footy gets rewarded..we’re yet to earn that!

 

[BrutThough]

Still not a good draw financially, 5 of the first 15 games are Sunday afternoon games, 4 of which are 4.40 starts.

Only 1 is a home game so shouldn't impact us financially much. 2 Friday night home games and 2 Saturday night home games gives us a chance for good crowds.

 

[Sippa]

I think we might take a while to adjust to Lyon so think we probably have to come home strong. I expect a bit of a wobbly start and improve our systems and cohesion as we play. If we can nab a couple of early games again similar opposition it will make finals a lot more likely.

I don’t know about that .. not saying we won’t take a while but it won’t be as radical a change in style as when we went from Thomas to Lyon … there’s been some good examples of teams adjusting straight away .. Geelong with Scott port with Hinkley Carlton with voss pies with McRae

Obviously examples the other way too but I think it could go either way !

 

[malevu]

No trip to the Cattery is a nice surprise.

 

[Joffaboy]

Success and playing good, attractive footy gets rewarded..we’re yet to earn that!

Essendon, no finals win since 2004, no top 4 since 2002, so they have earned their Anzac Day and Dreamtime game every single year?
Nothing to do with earnt.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Essendon, no finals win since 2004, no top 4 since 2002, so they have earned their Anzac Day and Dreamtime game every single year?
Nothing to do with earnt.

 

[DougalHoward]

 

[austinnn]

I like that the last 4 games are difficult but not impossible. Much easier playing the Cats at the start of the season than the end, and Brisbane at the Gabba never a cakewalk. Tigers and Blues should be biggies too.

In each of the four, St Kilda would be odds on to lose. But equally all very winnable with the right application. Great way to end the season, seeing how far we have to go or head into finals full of confidence.

 

[lewdogs]

Not playing in Geelong feels like Christmas has come early.

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

Hawks and north are surely going to stay winnable. And Gold Coast and Richmond are as good as any other side in the next group of sides. At least Richmond means both games are in Melbourne. Gold Coast the one that could go from easy to maybe not so easy.

 

[King_Steele]

Fantastic draw. Best one we’ve had in years.

 

[stfan]

Hawks and north are surely going to stay winnable.

Hawks have gone full blown tank as their strategy is to rebuild via lots of young players, including early picks.

So if we do not beat them twice next season we will be well and truly f*****.

 

[gringo2011]

Hawks and north are surely going to stay winnable. And Gold Coast and Richmond are as good as any other side in the next group of sides. At least Richmond means both games are in Melbourne. Gold Coast the one that could go from easy to maybe not so easy.

I expect North to improve a bit but still a work in progress. Hawks will struggle. They have lost a lot of quality and haven't got quality youth coming in behind it.