2023 ICC Men's Cricket World Cup Game 5 India v Australia 8/10 1900hrs @ MA Chidambaran Stadium

[PhatBoy]

Smiths strike rate is 91 in the last 3 years.

From the start of 2021, according to cricinfo, it isn’t.

I just went January 1 as an arbitrary date. For all I know just before then he had some big knocks, I’m not sure.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

The expert on any subject and world famous professor on middle east affairs had to delete an idiotic past wow.

This is a cricket thread legend. Take your extreme views elsewhere champ.

 

[western royboy]

Cameron Green has regressed markedly - his batting is timid and his bowling is club like. I'm convinced he must be carrying an injury or hot spot.

I'd love to see Green shelve the bowling and open the batting in all formats once Warner retires.

We lack intent and purpose with the bat and in the field.

Can you talk me thru why you think he’d be a good opener? He doesn’t move his feet and has a few technical issues - he’s be cannon fodder against a moving ball IMHO

 

[BGman]

Can you talk me thru why you think he’d be a good opener?

His footwork looks slubbornly because he is a big man and does not move that huge frame as quickly as a smaller man. But look at where he is when the ball is delivered, ready and covering his stumps. In red ball cricket that is. With white ball dont you simply see ball hit ball as it rarely moves on the dirt tracks they usually play on.

 

[greyhound punter]

Can you talk me thru why you think he’d be a good opener? He doesn’t move his feet and has a few technical issues - he’s be cannon fodder against a moving ball IMHO

I think Green has undoubted talent with the bat - some have said he is our best young batsmen since Ponting.

That potential talent is wasted down the order, hiding at 6 or 7. You know, roll the arm over for a few overs and then slog a few at 6 or 7.

Green should drop the bowling and concentrate on his batting and look to take more responsibility in the team.

Marsh can bat at 6 or 7 and be the 5th bowler.

Green's regression with the bat and ball is a major cause of our form slump. I'd love to see him opening at the top of the order this summer and looking to drive the new ball down the ground and then crunching 6s off the back foot when the bowlers drop short.

 

[corbies]

From the start of 2021, according to cricinfo, it isn’t.

I just went January 1 as an arbitrary date. For all I know just before then he had some big knocks, I’m not sure.

He made 2 60-ball hundreds just before the start of 2021 which get excluded with your perimeters but it keeps in the 6 matches (out of 20) that he played in Townsville and Cairns where the strike rate for everyone across the 6 matches was 75 and Smith got his team home 3 times out of those 6 matches playing to the conditions where he essentially had to play Test match innings because of either the morning swing that was just ripping through sides or pitches that didn't really allow you to hit through the line.

 

[PhatBoy]

He made 2 60-ball hundreds just before the start of 2021 which get excluded with your perimeters but it keeps in the 6 matches (out of 20) that he played in Townsville and Cairns where the strike rate for everyone across the 6 matches was 75 and Smith got his team home 3 times out of those 6 matches playing to the conditions where he essentially had to play Test match innings because of either the morning swing that was just ripping through sides or pitches that didn't really allow you to hit through the line.

Fair enough. I don’t even remember those matches happening

 

[Westend]

News just in Australian team announced for the next game against the saffers

Phillipe Wk
Short
Bancroft
Whiteman
Hardie
Turner Captain
Hobson
Richardson
Tye
Behrendoff
Morris

Rocco might come in for Hobson..might be a spinning a wicket

 

[Cleavy]

We decided to not pick enough spinners for starters non fussed if we do much anyway. The key will be the SA game and our best defensive quick in Ellis isn’t even there

injured anyway

 

[western royboy]

I think Green has undoubted talent with the bat - some have said he is our best young batsmen since Ponting.

That potential talent is wasted down the order, hiding at 6 or 7. You know, roll the arm over for a few overs and then slog a few at 6 or 7.

Green should drop the bowling and concentrate on his batting and look to take more responsibility in the team.

Marsh can bat at 6 or 7 and be the 5th bowler.

Green's regression with the bat and ball is a major cause of our form slump. I'd love to see him opening at the top of the order this summer and looking to drive the new ball down the ground and then crunching 6s off the back foot when the bowlers drop short.

I have a very different view of his potential as a bat

 

[Cat Pummins]

There was a female commentator from NZ during last night's match who talked about something interesting. She was discussing the current Black Caps team, and how they each seem to have a role, know their role, and mostly perform their role. This made sense because Australia seem quite confused about not only what they are wanting, but who they need and where they need them to do it!

This rubbish about loading up with all-rounders looks good on paper, but it's rarely ever translated to performances. Why don't we just bring in Hardie, Sutherland and Edwards while we're at it? We lose our second specialist spinner to injury for a tournament in India and we replace him with a top-order batsman. The talk about Stoinis missing a match or two...good! That bloke's been living off his 2017 Eden Park innings for far too long.

One last thing, and at risk of labouring the point, Alex Carey is a big concern. Since that Bairstow debacle he has struggled, maybe there's something else going on? Green has struggled for a long time, Cummins looks out of ideas far too quickly.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

injured anyway

So is Head. He wasn’t even picked all year when he should have. It took us getting thrashed in the t20 WC to change things so if it takes that, well okay.

Let’s not forget we have a dud keeper who can’t bat in our top 6 too.

 

[grumbleguts]

Then of course the dew sets in. Why the hell did Australia bat first?

 

[Jimthegreat]

All the pitches have been higher scoring until India plays a SENA country. Then it spins!

 

[Jimthegreat]

I thought Australia had a great chance to beat India yesterday before the match.

What a disappointment. Australian cricket has fallen off a cliff the last 6 to 8 months.

The decline in our cricket in such a short space of time is very concerning.

Cameron Green has regressed markedly - his batting is timid and his bowling is club like. I'm convinced he must be carrying an injury or hot spot.

I'd love to see Green shelve the bowling and open the batting in all formats once Warner retires.

We lack intent and purpose with the bat and in the field.

If we make the semis we're are doing very well indeed on the available evidence.

It hasn't.

You must've guessed from the Test Series that the pitch was going to be a turner. It will be that 4 times during the qualifying rounds, the 4 times India plays SENA countries. Rest will be higher scorers.

 

[gtrxuone]

Like the end of the Ashes series.Australia need to look at selection and tactical

Then of course the dew sets in. Why the hell did Australia bat first?

Huge tactical blunder by the Coach.

 

[gtrxuone]

Like the end of the Ashes series.Australia need to look at selection and tactical decisions.
Would be great to see Tim David selected.

 

[chriso11]

The biggest problem is there is no heir apparent for our team.

With Steve Waugh, there was Punter
With Punter, there was Clarke
With Clarke, there was Smith
With Smith, there is …?

We lack a generational talent pushing through to stake the claim as undisputed leader of the next generation.

Only batsman with talent close enough would be Head, but he would need to find another gear and consistency playing away from home that he hasn’t shown yet. I’m yet to see anyone else capable and a lot of the young talent tried over the last few years seems to have come up short

 

[Moonwatcher]

Like the end of the Ashes series.Australia need to look at selection and tactical

Huge tactical blunder by the Coach.

If we had capable spinners on the sidelines we'd play them. Maxwell as an example.

 

[Moonwatcher]

Like the end of the Ashes series.Australia need to look at selection and tactical decisions.
Would be great to see Tim David selected.

Can't blame selectors for not being overly impressed by David's form.

 

[Tugga27]

Can't blame selectors for not being overly impressed by David's form.
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David isn't a good bat for the 50 over stuff.

His go is to come in in T20's and have a slog in the last 4 or 5 overs.

 

[Tugga27]

News just in Australian team announced for the next game against the saffers

Phillipe Wk
Short
Bancroft
Whiteman
Hardie
Turner Captain
Hobson
Richardson
Tye
Behrendoff
Morris

Rocco might come in for Hobson..might be a spinning a wicket

If you could fit in, Marsh, Inglis, Green and Stoinis, that would be a handy line up Westy.

 

[Moonwatcher]

David isn't a good bat for the 50 over stuff.

His go is to come in in T20's and have a slog in the last 4 or 5 overs.

He's 27 so doesn't have long to develop a 50 over game but I believe he can do it.

 

[Around the Wicket]

The biggest problem is there is no heir apparent for our team.

With Steve Waugh, there was Punter
With Punter, there was Clarke
With Clarke, there was Smith
With Smith, there is …?

We lack a generational talent pushing through to stake the claim as undisputed leader of the next generation.

Only batsman with talent close enough would be Head, but he would need to find another gear and consistency playing away from home that he hasn’t shown yet. I’m yet to see anyone else capable and a lot of the young talent tried over the last few years seems to have come up short

Green is the answer but he should give up the bowling imo and just be a batsmen.

 

[BStaff17]

There was a female commentator from NZ during last night's match who talked about something interesting. She was discussing the current Black Caps team, and how they each seem to have a role, know their role, and mostly perform their role. This made sense because Australia seem quite confused about not only what they are wanting, but who they need and where they need them to do it!

This rubbish about loading up with all-rounders looks good on paper, but it's rarely ever translated to performances. Why don't we just bring in Hardie, Sutherland and Edwards while we're at it? We lose our second specialist spinner to injury for a tournament in India and we replace him with a top-order batsman. The talk about Stoinis missing a match or two...good! That bloke's been living off his 2017 Eden Park innings for far too long.

One last thing, and at risk of labouring the point, Alex Carey is a big concern. Since that Bairstow debacle he has struggled, maybe there's something else going on? Green has struggled for a long time, Cummins looks out of ideas far too quickly.

Mate you are spot on.

Stoinis has done SFA since Eden Park innings and lets be honest he screwed us in the last ODI WC with his poor attitude and injury niggles.

After 64 ODIs he averages 27 with the Bat & 43 with the Ball. How is that close to a pass mark for either of them.