Preview 2023 Preliminary Final Carlton vs Brisbane Sat 23rd Sept 5.15PM @ Gabba

[Aphrodite]

TEAM IS IN …


IN: Jordan Boyd, Jack Martin

21

Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

, Harry McKay

10

Harry Mckay

Age

26

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

2.4

2star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.4

5star

D

6.6

1star

K

4.6

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

2.0

5star

OUT: David Cuningham, Brodie Kemp, Matthew Kennedy, Matthew Owies

AFL team selection: Four changes for preliminary final

Carlton has named its team for the preliminary final.

www.carltonfc.com.au

Backs:	Alex Cincotta	Jacob Weitering	Adam Saad
Half-backs:	Caleb Marchbank	Mitch McGovern	Nic Newman
Centreline:	Blake Acres	Patrick Cripps	Ollie Hollands
Half-forwards:	Tom De Koning	Harry McKay	Sam Docherty
Forwards:	Lachie Fogarty	Charlie Curnow	Jesse Motlop
Followers:	Marc Pittonet	Adam Cerra	Sam Walsh
Interchange:	Jordan Boyd	Matthew Cottrell	George Hewett
	Jack Martin
Emergencies:	David Cuningham	Brodie Kemp	Matthew Kennedy
	Matthew Owies

 

[Stamos]

Not only dropped marks but some of his handballs just dribbled out and cost opportunities

So did Newman's.
It was an error riddled game. I'm really surprised, especially after watching the replay, of the amount of heat Marchy seems to be copping.
He had 3 clangers for the game. One of them was an iffy free that was paid to them, and the exact same thing wasn't paid to us.

 

[Stamos]

Can’t see them dropping Owies - he kicks important goals.

Somebody has to go though.

Cunners seems to be struggling, not able to do what he does best.

It will be between those 2.
Owies has been pretty poor the last 2 weeks. Great goal at the start of the 4th, but aside from that did very little.

 

[Blue train 28]

Not only dropped marks but some of his handballs just dribbled out and cost opportunities

I thought marchbank wasn’t too bad but he does have a huge issue in running into traffic and calling for the ball. It creates so many turnovers.

 

[RAPPA]

So did Newman's.
It was an error riddled game. I'm really surprised, especially after watching the replay, of the amount of heat Marchy seems to be copping.
He had 3 clangers for the game. One of them was an iffy free that was paid to them, and the exact same thing wasn't paid to us.

Agreed. Yes, a few fumbles and the dropped mark, but he took a few important marks and was involved in other critical plays. I actually thought he was okay after watching the replay. Routine whipping boys.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

So did Newman's.
It was an error riddled game

I generally felt Melbourne were able to find and hit targets better in congestion and also seemed to take more contested marks. Fortunately things panned out in our favour in the end.

 

[Blue train 28]

Mckay and Martin in
Kennedy and Cunningham out.
Pittont stays in I see people’s points on his defensive running but I think pitto is still our number one ruck. The midfield seems better when we are rucking to his taps. And he was excellent against Melbourne. De Koning is a perfect chop out to him and is starting to produce up forward. Mckay is no good as a chop out to TDK and we seen when pitto was out against the giants Briggs smashed us. Pitto is physical at contest and plays voss game style.
I do think though pitto rucks first 5 mins in the last qtr then gets sub out for a runner like hollands then TDK can ruck the last part.
Only worries playing the lions is if we come out of D50 like we did against Melbourne and turn it over it will go straight back over our head for a goal.
The other worry is the matchup on Charlie Cameron

23

Charlie Cameron

Age

30

Ht

180cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

3.7

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

9.6

2star

K

7.9

3star

HB

1.7

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.7

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

9.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.2

4star

M

1.4

2star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.2

4star

. I think our defenders matchup decent with everyone else except against him. Team defence will have to beat him . I think Mcgovern should get first crack, with saad and Newman rotating through him at times. He is a worry if he takes one of our guys to the square

 

[Stamos]

I generally felt Melbourne were able to find and hit targets better in congestion and also seemed to take more contested marks. Fortunately things panned out in our favour in the end.

Yeah, they had 3 more contested marks, and 6 more uncontested.
But they were much less effective overall, 66% to 71%.

 

[Coops93]

Can’t see them dropping Owies - he kicks important goals.

Somebody has to go though.

Cunners seems to be struggling, not able to do what he does best.

Cuningham is playing as Cuningham does. The hype around here for him is huge but across his career this is exactly what he does. Get dropped/injured, the hype train around him starts again, he comes in and plays a decent game or 2 and everyone lauds his return, then fades again and is eventually dropped or gets an untimely injury. One thing he has maintained better than other seasons though is his tackling. Career high tackles this season which has been a part of our small half forward pressure

 

[katmanblue]

Thanks. Have to thank The OldDarkNavy's, Aphrodite and the Mods for inviting me back. Very generous and appreciated

You've been missed.

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[KnobHead]

Cripps will be holding the premiership cup in 11 days time.




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[thylacine60]

Thanks. Have to thank The OldDarkNavy's, Aphrodite and the Mods for inviting me back. Very generous and appreciated

Great to have such a positive poster back here.

 

[katmanblue]

Jaspa Fletcher in a SEN article about the "raucous Brisbane crowd"

“It will be loud,” he said further."
“I know they’ve played in front of 90,000 the last few weeks but being 30,000 Brisbane supporters this week, it might be a little change."

Sounds like A) They're expecting about 15K Carlton supporters given capacity of the Gabba & B) It may sound like we're playing at a retirement village after the last 2 x weeks.

I was at the Gabba for our last final there. It does get loud.

I think it's the design of the stands which reflects sound down and in rather than out like at the G.

Still, not as loud as last Friday but it was unexpectedly loud when Rich kicked that goal from outside 50 and ripped my heart out.

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[jj1978]

Well I guess you're entitled to that view.

For me Weitering's kick 2 seconds before is how that kick is supposed to look.

It doesn't take any sort of expert. It's basic. You want that ball out in front of your team mate away from the defender so that he has no chance to spoil it and doc takes the ball on his chest. You don't want it floated up above doc's head with a defender running in from behind.

Worked out in the end. Happy days but we can still acknowledge reality surely?

In essence if Doc is taking it on his chest, the Melbourne player doesn't fall over and Doc doesn't get the opportunity to 180 and run....

 

[Rustica]

Cmon weekend!

 

[jj1978]

Harry will come straight back in, he does plenty of work off and at the contest which makes our forward half better

Beyond the goal kicking, Harry did some decent things against Sydney. I'd be of the mind that if he's in close range just permit him to snap or have Marten, Charlie, Owies float past for a handpass.

Having him plunked in the square at least will allow Charlie to roam further upfield where he is just as dangerous to take any shot within 55-60m or deliver it pin point.

 

[Accidental genius]

Can’t see them dropping Owies - he kicks important goals.

Somebody has to go though.

Cunners seems to be struggling, not able to do what he does best.

Agree.

As sure as the sun coming up tomorrow owies will play.

Going back last year and prior so many were dropping owies because of this that and the other.

What he’s showed to date is playing with heart and applying pressure and being in the right spot just at the right moments are critical for a small forward.

Motlop also stays in side for mine.

Motts and owies compliment each other really well.

 

[Arr0w]

Beyond the goal kicking, Harry did some decent things against Sydney. I'd be of the mind that if he's in close range just permit him to snap or have Marten, Charlie, Owies float past for a handpass.

Having him plunked in the square at least will allow Charlie to roam further upfield where he is just as dangerous to take any shot within 55-60m or deliver it pin point.

Charlie and Harry have worked reasonably well together in the 2nd half of the year, both have been outlets on a wing, both have hit each other inside 50

As a team, we need to look for Harry to keep Andrews honest to manning a player, rather than playing the intercept role

 

[Magruder]

Beyond the goal kicking, Harry did some decent things against Sydney. I'd be of the mind that if he's in close range just permit him to snap or have Marten, Charlie, Owies float past for a handpass.

Having him plunked in the square at least will allow Charlie to roam further upfield where he is just as dangerous to take any shot within 55-60m or deliver it pin point.

both work up the ground and back at different times.

Harry just needs to nail a shot early, confidence.
If he dribbler against Sydney had gone through, he'd have kicked 4 (including the howler in the 3rd) and we'd have won by 50+.

 

[jj1978]

I am a massive Boyd fan but to bring him back into a final after missing so much would be a massive call.

One of those conundrums.. we have a few fit players who haven't featured in the last few weeks. I guess Voss and the MC is of the view that unless you're injured, completely out of form, have been a constant in the side for 6 weeks+, or covering for one of the 15 untouchables in the 22, you stay in the side.

Kennedy unfortunately was cover and has missed too many weeks before that through his injury so expect him to make way.

Cunningham, completely out of form... makes way.

JSOS, Boyd, Kennedy just unfortunate timing with their injuries and suspension. Although it might be healthy for those just on fringe to have hope and keep competition up by giving Boyd or a Dow a run this week as sub or for a very sore player or one just hanging on (Marchy? Cinc?)

 

[jj1978]

Charlie and Harry have worked reasonably well together in the 2nd half of the year, both have been outlets on a wing, both have hit each other inside 50

As a team, we need to look for Harry to keep Andrews honest to manning a player, rather than playing the intercept role

I think that's the view with Charlies comments on playing a role and sticking to basics.

 

[Blue__Balls]

In essence if Doc is taking it on his chest, the Melbourne player doesn't fall over and Doc doesn't get the opportunity to 180 and run....

You reckon Ollie was thinking to himself "I've gotta put this one on Doc's head so that Melbourne player in the corridor overcommits to the spoil and goes to ground, allowing Doc to mark and play on"?

Undoubtedly the kick worked out perfectly, but the result doesn't mean the kick went where it was supposed to go. I have no doubt that the "correct" kick would have been another metre or two towards the wing so that Doc was marking uncontested. A more experienced or disciplined defender might have just taken Doc's body when attempting to spoil, and made sure that the resultant free kick would be delayed 5-10 seconds to allow Melbourne to get numbers back. If the defender had snuck a fist in, or conceded the "professional free" and put Doc on the deck, then there'd be many more people bemoaning the fact that the kick wasn't to the open space.

Ultimately though, it's fine. It was a long kick with the game on the line and Ollie, at the very least, didn't shank it or grub it or put it to the opposition's advantage. He recognised the opportunity and the moment and he pulled the trigger. In a first year player that's to be applauded. There are definitely others in the team who wouldn't have been quick enough, or attentive enough, or skilled enough to see it and pull it off.

It worked, and we're all very ****ing lucky and grateful that it did.

 

[Coops93]

Jaspa Fletcher in a SEN article about the "raucous Brisbane crowd"

“It will be loud,” he said further."
“I know they’ve played in front of 90,000 the last few weeks but being 30,000 Brisbane supporters this week, it might be a little change."

Sounds like A) They're expecting about 15K Carlton supporters given capacity of the Gabba & B) It may sound like we're playing at a retirement village after the last 2 x weeks.

Not to defend a Brisbane player at the moment, but, as someone who frequents the Gabba (well, frequents 3 or 4 times a year) it actually does get quite loud. Despite its age, in terms of atmosphere and viewing it's a fantastic ground to watch sport, no bad seats and the acoustics get loud. Certainly feels like much more than 30k when the fans are cheering such is the design which is fantastic imo.

Though as you say, he says 30,000 Brisbane fans, obviously he's expecting some significant away support. On the coverage last week Luke Hodge said he was expecting a 60-40 ratio given the extensive support Carlton get up here. I don't know if it will be quite that extreme but 25k Brisbane to ~ 15k Carlton wouldn't shock me. So if anything I think the crowd may be more of a surprise to Brisbane than Carlton. They'd be expecting significant home support so if we are able to take the edge off that it will be interesting.

 

[Revenant1965]

Sorry if it’s already been noted, but the forecast is just for 23 degrees on Sat in Brissy, after a week of high temps. Gods are shining on us


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I just want one 'true god' to smile on us....

 

[Revenant1965]

Welcome back Soap.

I'm also going to say welcome back. I've missed you (as some others as well) on our board.

 

[BrianSetzer]

I'm also going to say welcome back. I've missed you (as some others as well) on our board.

Wheres Synbad? Poor bloke was here for all the crap times telling us how badly run we were.
Wish he was here to celebrate the great times now.