Game Day 2023 Round 17 Richmond v Swans Thursday @ 7:20pm @ MCG

[MF]

Yeah I can't blame the club for having a sub who can cover KP, given the year we've had.

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Looking forward to this game.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Doesn't make any sense. If we're fearful of Bud or TMac going down or not fit enough, don't play them.

Can anyone explain why Francis, in questionable conditions, against this opposition, is a good choice for sub? We already have 4 possible KPDs in the team against Riewoldt, a resting ruck and a 192cm debutant. Heeney or Hayward can take a KPD if needed, Francis isn't going to do any better.

Hey you know my thoughts on the first one about playing those two, but you seem to want to play them. Look personally I'd go a runner but if it's a tall Francis makes some sense as a utility

 

[Bloods86]

Hey you know my thoughts on the first one about playing those two, but you seem to want to play them. Look personally I'd go a runner but if it's a tall Francis makes some sense as a utility

If we don't think they can last a game, don't play them. This talk of "oh we'll just sub TMac or Buddy off for Francis late on" is fanciful. A mid goes down and now you've got Francis loping around, less mid rotations and a cooked Buddy or TMac. In iffy conditions, against an opponent who we should be able to handle even if a KPD goes down.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

If we don't think they can last a game, don't play them. This talk of "oh we'll just sub TMac or Buddy off for Francis late on" is fanciful. A mid goes down and now you've got Francis loping around, less mid rotations and a cooked Buddy or TMac. In iffy conditions, against an opponent who we should be able to handle even if a KPD goes down.

Look personally I wouldn't be playing Bud but many on here don't like that. I would have a runner as the sub and you know actually use the sub this week!

 

[SSwans2011]

Is this instalment still called the Derickx Cup, or is it the ECO Cup this time around?

 

[MF]

If we don't think they can last a game, don't play them. This talk of "oh we'll just sub TMac or Buddy off for Francis late on" is fanciful. A mid goes down and now you've got Francis loping around, less mid rotations and a cooked Buddy or TMac. In iffy conditions, against an opponent who we should be able to handle even if a KPD goes down.

the club have taken a pretty conservative approach to both TMac and Buddy so I doubt the sub choice is based on those 2 alone. Given our run with in-game KP injuries this year though I can see why we might want backup.

Anyway, I can't think of many examples this year where the 23rd best player in a side has come on and changed the game in his team's favour either way.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

the club have taken a pretty conservative approach to both TMac and Buddy so I doubt the sub choice is based on those 2 alone. Given our run with in-game KP injuries this year though I can see why we might want backup.

Anyway, I can't think of many examples this year where the 23rd best player in a side has come on and changed the game in his team's favour either way.

Good sides know how to use the sub well, unfortunately we are terrible at it

 

[Bloods86]

the club have taken a pretty conservative approach to both TMac and Buddy so I doubt the sub choice is based on those 2 alone. Given our run with in-game KP injuries this year though I can see why we might want backup.

Anyway, I can't think of many examples this year where the 23rd best player in a side has come on and changed the game in his team's favour either way.

But we have backup in the 22 already, the Tigers don't have the talls to necessitate it, and the conditions don't suit.

 

[bedford]

Still dry and windy , becoming overcast

 

[Jeffers]

Need to overcome our MCG demons tonight.

 

[bedford]

Need to overcome our MCG demons tonight.

? we have beaten Richmond 4 of the last 5 there lol

 

[Jeffers]

? we have beaten Richmond 4 of the last 5 there lol

I’m talking about erasing anymore gf 2022 memories with the MCG.

 

[Bloods86]

I’m talking about erasing anymore gf 2022 memories with the MCG.

I think it'd be Cats related, not the ground. We just weren't good enough vs the Dees and Pies earlier this year. In 2015 we won both our games there, including against the Hawks. Flogged the Tigers there in 2021, beat the Dees there twice last year.

 

[The King!]

Still dry and windy , becoming overcast

you love the weather

 

[RUNVS]

Need to overcome our MCG demons tonight.

The Demons are playing on Saturday.

 

[TheMase]

the club have taken a pretty conservative approach to both TMac and Buddy so I doubt the sub choice is based on those 2 alone. Given our run with in-game KP injuries this year though I can see why we might want backup.

Anyway, I can't think of many examples this year where the 23rd best player in a side has come on and changed the game in his team's favour either way.

Yeah I personally reckon the subs impact has largely been fairly minimal, particularly if they’ve come on later.

A few years ago with 3 on the bench and the 4th was sub they seemed to have more impact as there was more fatigue.

Now with 4+1 not as many players are fatigued to the same level.

 

[Nuggetz]

hows the weather?

 

[Punts]

Spot on weather

Little windy but should be no drama

 

[Adnico26Parker]

Francis the sub

 

[RUNVS]

Francis the sub

Longmire doesn't really get this sub thing. You would think it was not a complicated concept.

 

[MR0808]

They've all barely missed a goal!

 

[Dubai Quacker]

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They've all barely missed a goal!

I’ve always wondered why they don’t have someone stand the mark when they practice goal kicking.

Seems like it’d be sensible to try and replicate a genuine set-shot.

 

[Punts]

Look much better on paper

No excuses

 

[RilesMacca]

mooney said he saw heeney knock home every set shot in the warm ups.












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