Not a bug. Warnie said in his weekly video that the team is working to get the feature properly implemented as it is in Supercoach. And while its often a joke that Warnie runs Fantasy, he just speaks to the Genius Sports team that runs the game.
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Not a bug. Warnie said in his weekly video that the team is working to get the feature properly implemented as it is in Supercoach. And while its often a joke that Warnie runs Fantasy, he just speaks to the Genius Sports team that runs the game.
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AFL Fantasy developers: Edit trade is at full functionality. Time to take 6 months off lol
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Few trades to choose from for my 2nd one, anyone have any input? Can either use uwland to loop wilmot if I don't trade him out and then use constable to loop a bench rookie in mid, or use constable to loop wilmot if I trade uwland
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What does everyone realistically see Setterfield going at for the rest of the year ?
I see him as a mid 90s average, which makes him a pass if I am going down from a keeper. I get the argument of playing the breakeven game, but with the amount of weekly injuries/outs it becomes a real risk of having to hold onto him for way to long and him becoming a liability, especially if you went down from a Steele/Macrae.
Put it this way, if you were selecting a 720k midfielder at the start of the season, you would be doing so in the hope they elevated their average to keeper status and over triple figures. I can't see Setterfield doing this over someone like LDU.
But the extra $140k between LDU and Setterfield could make everything I said above null and void, particularly if it sets you up for future moves.
I see him as a mid 90s average, which makes him a pass if I am going down from a keeper. I get the argument of playing the breakeven game, but with the amount of weekly injuries/outs it becomes a real risk of having to hold onto him for way to long and him becoming a liability, especially if you went down from a Steele/Macrae.
Put it this way, if you were selecting a 720k midfielder at the start of the season, you would be doing so in the hope they elevated their average to keeper status and over triple figures. I can't see Setterfield doing this over someone like LDU.
But the extra $140k between LDU and Setterfield could make everything I said above null and void, particularly if it sets you up for future moves.
I talked myself into Lachie Whitfield in round one so I really need to think about the possibility that I'm about to destroy my season, but I'm giving serious thought to fading Setterfield this week and trading in Darcy Cameron (who'd be my F5) instead.
Setters is an excellent player and I have little doubt he'll maintain a 90+ average. And if he goes 110+ again this week and DC goes back to a 90 (or 75) or something, I'll have made a terrible mistake. But Essendon aren't going to keep winning every game, and DC just got a lot more attractive with Cox out, right?
I haven't read through this thread yet but hopefully I'm not the only crazy person thinking about this.
Setters is an excellent player and I have little doubt he'll maintain a 90+ average. And if he goes 110+ again this week and DC goes back to a 90 (or 75) or something, I'll have made a terrible mistake. But Essendon aren't going to keep winning every game, and DC just got a lot more attractive with Cox out, right?
I haven't read through this thread yet but hopefully I'm not the only crazy person thinking about this.
Because if they fix it, we won't be able to edit trade forwards in for mids again etc - which is a disadvantage. I was pretty keen to keep it hushed and share only with people in here for that reason haha.
Are you sure? I don't think so - when you go to trade a def for a mid the overlay comes up and says 'The updated trade uses players from different positions to the original trade, and this is currently not allowed.' That wording seems considered and intentional to me. So can imagine if people have found an exploit, they might seek to remove it?
I guess it could be exploited via loopholing, like if I had Wilmot EMG last night, he scored 150, and I had no way to get his score, I could conceivably go the mid incoming trade to a DPP, swap them with McGrath, then bring in a defensive zero. Maybe they're looking to stop that?
Ah, good to hear. Good news.
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LDU & Stocker v Setters & Day?
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LDU has more upside than Setters across the season
Day has more than Stocker
I really like Stockers role right now, but with half the saints missing its not a guarentee. Hawks virtually full strength and dont see much changing at all.
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I'm pretty sure when they fix it they'll make it easier to trade forwards in for mids, not harder. It's not intentional, it's a bug in the new set up.
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I would've said 95-100 avg but there's a slight risk he's actually an m8 keeper and we're overlooking a 700k keeper.
It's slight...but the chance is there. 105ish is not out of reach if he keeps getting 90% CBA's while racking up marks and tackles
struggling with my last trade choice. Two options:
1. Tom Powell (or Callaghan depending on if late out) -> Rachele
or
2. Judd McVee / Cowan - > Caminiti
Powell's made no cash and if i dont get Rachele now i'll miss out (just enough cash ITB this week)...but powell v hawks arrgh
whereas
McVee just not scoring for fantasy. he needs to go (rumurs of cowan late out though). -> Who to bring in??? Caminiti seems the popular choice
1. Tom Powell (or Callaghan depending on if late out) -> Rachele
or
2. Judd McVee / Cowan - > Caminiti
Powell's made no cash and if i dont get Rachele now i'll miss out (just enough cash ITB this week)...but powell v hawks arrgh
whereas
McVee just not scoring for fantasy. he needs to go (rumurs of cowan late out though). -> Who to bring in??? Caminiti seems the popular choice
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I think in this situation I'd play the BE game.
You can get Cameron next week. His BE is 75 or so. Can't get Setters next week
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Yeah the CBAs are the key here. If those numbers stay up he is a late season trade at worst and I think trading an underperforming premo to move Constable to Ziebell or Stocker works out better long term.
Problem I have is my only two options for the trade have already played. If the Constable news was confirmed earlier I would have been more comfortable pulling the trigger. Now I’m in a bit of a hole
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Are they though ?
Setterfields R1 score was the result of 10 marks against the Hawks, which is not CBA related.
His R2 score was helped by 9 tackles which is probably more linked to CBAs.
I often question correlation vs causation when it comes to CBAs and fantasy scoring.
Do higher CBAs cause more points, or is it just that the higher scoring fantasy players get higher CBAs.
That's pretty sneaky and not something i'd ever have thought of, glad they showed it.
I don't think it's slight at all. Not guaranteed, but it's definitely very possible.
- Big bodied inside mids often take a LOT longer to develop
- He got 'the role' for the last two rounds of '23 at Carlton, and had a 99 and 89 (79 and 56 CBA, 80 and 72 TOG)
- He's since had the whole pre season to train into this role, not the flanker/dead winger he was at Carlton
- He's now got some confidence, after 7 years of being shunted into dead roles/the VFL
- look at how he's getting his points. Wins the ball inside, tackles hard, spreads and links up ok outside. He's getting you in all three domains. it's a pretty sustainable brand of scoring that doesn't require you to be genuinely elite at anything.
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Cerra to Oliver
Probably should get stocker instead of Oliver but heck it
Cerra to Oliver
Probably should get stocker instead of Oliver but heck it
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I just link the CBA stats to having a strong responsibility on ball no matter if it’s a centre bounce or a contest around the ground, they’re trusted with that role, which leads to more opportunities for all types of scoring. Not really much more analysis from my end than that
I think it's neither. CBAs don't cause more points, but the roles players who get the CBAs play allows them to score more points for less effort. If you're in the CBAs, you're 1) guaranteed opportunity to touch the ball even if the oppo get on a run through the actual CBAs, 2) generally following the ball around the field, so get opportunity at stoppages while most other players have to hold their position and not get sucked in, 3) generally play more central, so often in a position for cheap link up play, 4) can just chase the ball, instead of trying to follow a man or find positions to cause damage in
It's no wonder that the moment players in other roles get shunted in there, they find a way to score. Setterfield is a great example. The CBAs aren't the point sources, the freedom and role that make you a CBA player is. Wingmen for example have to hold their width. Don't get sucked in to the contest where all the +4 opportunities are.
In other terms, Setterfield's marks were excessive in R1, but the CBA role afforded him the chance to always be in space to take them.
If you guys had to trade out De Goey or Danger, who would you trade out?
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I'll call you clout chaser.
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Just don’t think I can do the whole Stocker thing. Plus LDU is a moral to get the Maginnes tag tomorrow (he was going to get it even before Simpkin was out; it’s a living certainty now). So even as an LDU owner and fan I’d lean heavily toward option B.
So you know what to do now…
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