2024/2025 Gold Coast Draft & Trade Periods

Young_Guns · 2024-10-14T21:37:27+1100

RowellAnderson12 said:

Anyone who believes Cameron is actually threatening to trade #13 to a team that isn’t Collingwood deserves to have him as a list manager for life given his actions over the last week.

The universe is deadset against #13 going there at this point, but he just won’t take no for an answer.

KaySwizzle · 2024-10-14T21:46:33+1100

So let’s say we trade a pick to North. North go and recruit Caleb Daniel, Luke Parker and who knows who else (maybe Houston?) with our help.

This has North skyrocketing up the ladder written all over it by bolstering their young core with mature talent. Us trading a future first all but guarantees their surge…

Let’s face it, we couldn’t pick a team to slide if our life depended on it. We never have.

Morrell96 · 2024-10-14T21:54:09+1100

KaySwizzle said:
So let’s say we trade a pick to North. North go and recruit Caleb Daniel, Luke Parker and who knows who else (maybe Houston?) with our help.

This has North skyrocketing up the ladder written all over it by bolstering their young core with mature talent. Us trading a future first all but guarantees their surge…

Let’s face it, we couldn’t pick a team to slide if our life depended on it. We never have.

Difference between trading with North compared to Collingwood. Collingwood will finish higher up the ladder then nth so our future pick will be worse since they'll most likely finish higher. I see Collingwood finishing 6th or higher with Houston. North I see finishing no higher then 12th with Houston and other players added to their team.

CanYouFeelTheSunburn · 2024-10-14T21:55:48+1100

GCS in 11 said:
Let this terrible deal fall over, Collingwood simply don’t have the assets to land Houston and want us to pay Port Adelaide instead. Go get Norths F1

13 for Norths F1 (+ maybe more)
29 for Noble
6 for Rioli
Luko for Ports F1
23 + NM picks for another F1

Get it done Cameron

This is a great suggestion and would for once put our club first instead of putting other clubs before us and allowing them to continue exploiting and taking advantage of us. Why should we let other clubs continue to get richer in situations that solely benefit them?

KaySwizzle · 2024-10-14T22:02:37+1100

Morrell96 said:
Difference between trading with North compared to Collingwood. Collingwood will finish higher up the ladder then nth so our future pick will be worse since they'll most likely finish higher. I see Collingwood finishing 6th or higher with Houston. North I see finishing no higher then 12th with Houston and other players added to their team.

Well, we can’t know for sure. But you are probably right as that does seem more likely.

Except, as a club, we get it wrong every time. And North are trying to make big moves.

We’ll have to wait and see how it all pans out. Club will look at everything, but the landscape is changing by the hour. The whole thing seems like a mess and pure conjecture by the media.

Brenton87 · 2024-10-14T22:06:24+1100

Suns just need to do separate deals, they've wasted enough time trying to please Collingwood. Sell 13 to highest bidder. We shouldn't we losing out to help do the Houston move.

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Jirik13 · 2024-10-14T22:08:43+1100

KaySwizzle said:
Well, we can’t know for sure. But you are probably right as that does seem more likely.

Except, as a club, we get it wrong every time. And North are trying to make big moves.

We’ll have to wait and see how it all pans out. Club will look at everything, but the landscape is changing by the hour. The whole thing seems like a mess and pure conjecture by the media.

I would say if Port, Magpies and Suns can't find common ground by tomorrow midday this mega trade will get split into individual ones.

Who cares about other clubs. Suns interest should be our priority. IMO, the suggested deal looked pretty good for us.

GCS in 11 · 2024-10-14T22:12:08+1100

Cameron has ****ed this by not taking offers when they came up and instead just delaying constantly to try and get more value, and then turning around and not even using that leverage.

We had Melb/Stkilda F1 + F2 for 13 packages plus NM F1 for 13. 1 of those is gone and the other two might not be on the table now.

We had Luko for F1 separately agreed. Now with this blowback for Port I don’t think they’ll agree to that anymore.

Instead of striking while the iron was hot in the middle of the Pick 13 bidding war, we are now scrambling and probably paying even more.

Jen2310 · 2024-10-14T22:13:47+1100

Seems port is happy with Atkins. Here is the HS

Port Adelaide has sensationally pulled back from the brink of a mega three-club trade deal that would have secured Collingwood the services of All-Australian defender Dan Houston

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In a stunning turnaround late on Monday night, the Power shocked the Magpies and Gold Coast – as well as the Houston camp – by choosing not to proceed with the complex arrangement.

That deal involved three clubs, five players, two future first-round selections and a host of draft picks changing hands.

Collingwood and Gold Coast believed they had nailed a deal that could have unlocked the trade impasse on Houston, but Port Adelaide late Monday baulked at the meagre return it would have received on the deal.

The core elements of the deal would have seen the Pies secure Houston and pick 58 for their future first-rounder and John Noble

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The Suns would have landed Noble, Port Adelaide and Collingwood’s future first-rounders and pick 39, and the Power would have got Jack Lukosius

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, Rory Atkins

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, Joe Richards and picks 13, 29 and 36.

But on Monday night, the Power was adamant the deal was insufficient and was threatening to trade Houston to North Melbourne. The Roos have offered a future first-rounder as part of a deal.

The Power’s view is that having agreed to trade Houston back to Victoria, they are not willing to accept a lesser Collingwood offer when the Roos’ deal is clearly of a higher quality.

The only wrinkle in accepting a Roos 2025 first-rounder for Houston is that the Power would prefer 2024 selections instead of future picks.

It remains to be seen if the Magpies and Suns can restructure aspects of the trade deal to resuscitate it, but the Power believed they were being strong-armed by Houston’s camp to accept a lesser deal.

KEY ELEMENTS OF FAILED MONSTER DEAL
The key elements of the three-way deal that Port Adelaide have rejected.

Collingwood will hand over its future first-rounder, Noble and Richards but secure Houston from the Power and also get back a pick in the 50s likely to be taken in the 40s on the night of the national draft.

Port Adelaide will hand over its future first-rounder and Houston but secure picks 13, 29, a future third rounder and Richards, with Suns rebounder Rory Atkins

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a strong chance to also get to the Power.

The Power will be able to consider splitting pick 13 with one of the many clubs interested (Sydney is offering picks 19 and 22) so could end up with 19, 22 and 29 for Houston in an elite draft.

Gold Coast will hand over picks 13, 29 and Jack Lukosius

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to the Power but will secure both Port Adelaide and Collingwood’s future first-rounders and Pies defender Noble.

Gold Coast was on Monday night threatening to trade the No.13 draft pick to a rival party if the trade fell over, given huge demand for that selection.

And the Houston camp was furious that a trade that had seemed over the line on Monday night had now seemed to have flatlined.

As of Monday afternoon, the prospective trade would have had the Suns still keeping picks six and 23 to hand to the Tigers for Rioli.

Rioli finished second in the 2022 best-and-fairest by a single vote to Tom Lynch and won this year’s Jack Dyer Medal.

The Suns will require the Tigers to trade into a pick in the 30s this year to help them secure the points for academy player Leo Lombard.

It will require the Tigers to find a third party who wants a higher top-20 pick but has a pick in the 30s to help the Tigers.

The Suns will still hope they can uphold that Richmond deal given their determination to secure Rioli.

Gold Coast’s Rory Atkins

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has only one more year on a deal that is worth about $400,000 next year and is keen to get to a third club where he has chances to play.

He played 17 senior games last year, but only three this season, and with the Power missing on Isaac Cumming

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and Harry Perryman

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Harry Perryman

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, then losing Houston, they will need some defensive cover.

The Power have ample cap space and are open to securing Atkins, given it would help the Suns clear cap space.

But they would only do so if they are advantaged by the three-club deal rather than left counting the cost of that deal.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/trade-hq/afl-trade-news-live-updates-and-news-from-day-8-of-the-afl-trade-period/live-coverage/74ad597ec58209dea9e91cbae99ba374

HeavenlySources · 2024-10-14T22:26:32+1100

Dear Suns, If the 3-way Collingwood & Port deal is off, what do you think about Stk F1 + F2 for 13 and F3 back?

Coobk001 · 2024-10-14T22:50:54+1100

DTLSchulzy16 said:
For them they’d be looking at the fact it was 13+29+Atkins+Richards for Houston

It's more like we'd be looking at it as

13 + 29 + Richards - (MINUS) Atkins.

Atkins is a huge negative. Waste a list spot, absorb a pointless salary cap hit, you aint doing that for free, we ALL know it is a salary dump. Deal definitely needs more from Port side and Collingwood don't appear to have the currency to get it done.

Iva Bigun · 2024-10-14T23:06:44+1100

Coobk001 said:
It's more like we'd be looking at it as

13 + 29 + Richards - (MINUS) Atkins.

Atkins is a huge negative. Waste a list spot, absorb a pointless salary cap hit, you aint doing that for free, we ALL know it is a salary dump. Deal definitely needs more from Port side and Collingwood don't appear to have the currency to get it done.

It’s a salary dump as we are already taking unders. Remove it and we hopefully just trade pick 13 to the highest bidder, something Cameron should of done 2 days ago

Brenton87 · 2024-10-14T23:08:00+1100

Coobk001 said:
It's more like we'd be looking at it as

13 + 29 + Richards - (MINUS) Atkins.

Atkins is a huge negative. Waste a list spot, absorb a pointless salary cap hit, you aint doing that for free, we ALL know it is a salary dump. Deal definitely needs more from Port side and Collingwood don't appear to have the currency to get it done.

Seems like a Collingwood issue. Houston can go to the Roos if pies don't have the capital. We shouldn't be giving up anymore.

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RowellAnderson12 · 2024-10-14T23:08:57+1100

Owies likely to the Eagles. Eagles splitting 3. So if we move on Rat... Dusty

Iva Bigun · 2024-10-14T23:09:57+1100

RowellAnderson12 said:
Owies likely to the Eagles. Eagles splitting 3. So if we move on Rat... Dusty

I’d love that just for the lols

Jirik13 · 2024-10-14T23:12:47+1100

A lot of hatred for us on Magpies thread.

Brenton87 · 2024-10-14T23:15:39+1100

Jirik13 said:
A lot of hatred for us on Magpies thread.

Port are the ones who backed out though? Lol

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Supersuns · 2024-10-14T23:22:18+1100

Jirik13 said:
A lot of hatred for us on Magpies thread.

A lot of hatred for tooth paste and working an honest days work as well in there.

DTLSchulzy16 · 2024-10-15T01:09:00+1100

Coobk001 said:
It's more like we'd be looking at it as

13 + 29 + Richards - (MINUS) Atkins.

Atkins is a huge negative. Waste a list spot, absorb a pointless salary cap hit, you aint doing that for free, we ALL know it is a salary dump. Deal definitely needs more from Port side and Collingwood don't appear to have the currency to get it done.

A bloke being on less than afl average is hardly a salary dump

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