2024/25 German Leagues - On beIN Sports (DFB-Pokal on Optus)

[kaiserchief13]

Good start to the season for Karlsruher SC, they are undefeated after their first five games, winning four.

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Karlsruher defeated Sshalke 2-0 last night at the Wildpark to currently sit on top, meanwhile Germany's second largest club (based on memberships) is struggling near the bottom of the table after gaining just a single point from their last four games.

Gee what has happened to Schalke. What a fall from almost every season qualifying for CL

 

[ioppolo]

Some big dogs in the 2 Bundesliga. Can only be good for German football as a whole I'd imagine?

 

[CURVE]

Some big dogs in the 2 Bundesliga. Can only be good for German football as a whole I'd imagine?

Some well known clubs in the third tier as well, 1860 Munich and Hansa Rostock have both started poorly and find themselves in the relegation spots.

 

[wadistance]

Some big dogs in the 2 Bundesliga. Can only be good for German football as a whole I'd imagine?

I’d say far better having them in the first league, rather than Leverkusen/Red Bull/Wolfsburg/Hoffenheim/Mainz

 

[gaskin]

What is wrong with Leverkusen?

 

[wadistance]

What is wrong with Leverkusen?

The same thing that is wrong with the other mentioned clubs (outside of Mainz).

They were the only team to not make a loss during COVID - because they were propped up by Bayer.

Now Bayer want the club to sell players that have increased their value to repay the investments.

It’s not a real club. It’s a plaything for a company