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precarious
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The AFL may not mind the capacity constraint for now. Repeated SCG sellouts would nudge new fans towards attending Giants games instead.
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Tom Morris/9 News reported last night that 70,000 tickets had already sold and that a crowd of 90,000+ is expected. Will be the largest crowd the Lions have played in front of excluding Grand Finals.
It’s slightly difficult to tell, but it looks like the general public is down to single seats or sold out except for:
At about 30 seats per bay, that totals anywhere between 1300-2000 tickets left, plus the single seats elsewhere. This is assuming that they have released all rows, and aren’t doing things like leaving every nth row empty. There will also no doubt be some unsold corporate level 2 or level 1 released late in the piece, however probably not many given the scarcity of mcg matches this year.
They haven’t released standing room or restricted view. They probably wont do so until the seats all sell, although I think they should open standing room to give people a chance at a $35 entry.
Interestingly, despite price increases it’s still the most expensive seats that sell out the fastest. I think it’s ideal for the cheapest seats to be still available now for people who may be on the fence (as those who are keen and maybe more likely to spend more money probably already bought tickets), so it’s in a good position.
I think the southern and q56 will be sold out soon, leaving just the two options. 85,000 looks like a lock, and I think even 90,000 looks likely. 95,00 an outside chance but they will need to open standing room.
- The back five rows of Q31-Q34 in the ponsford ($65 a ticket)
- Some rows in q35 in the ponsford ($124 a ticket)
- the back three rows of q10 in the southern stand ($101 a ticket)
- It’s hard to tell if they’ve released the back 15 rows of Q36 and Q35.
- A couple of seats in q8 midway back ($124 a ticket)
- the back ten rows of q55, q54 in the Olympic ($101 a ticket)
- a handful in Q56 ($124 a ticket). Not sure how many rows there are in front of the scoreboard, but they’re currently selling 2 seats in row s.
At about 30 seats per bay, that totals anywhere between 1300-2000 tickets left, plus the single seats elsewhere. This is assuming that they have released all rows, and aren’t doing things like leaving every nth row empty. There will also no doubt be some unsold corporate level 2 or level 1 released late in the piece, however probably not many given the scarcity of mcg matches this year.
They haven’t released standing room or restricted view. They probably wont do so until the seats all sell, although I think they should open standing room to give people a chance at a $35 entry.
Interestingly, despite price increases it’s still the most expensive seats that sell out the fastest. I think it’s ideal for the cheapest seats to be still available now for people who may be on the fence (as those who are keen and maybe more likely to spend more money probably already bought tickets), so it’s in a good position.
I think the southern and q56 will be sold out soon, leaving just the two options. 85,000 looks like a lock, and I think even 90,000 looks likely. 95,00 an outside chance but they will need to open standing room.
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I was a bit bored today and wanted to gauge how Ticketek sold tickets, so took note of all tickets available at various times of the day. I searched for four tickets on each search, and also started tracking what ticketek gave considered 'best available.'
Some notes:
Some notes:
- Best Available' seems to be how the majority of people chose tickets. The bay that was best available in one particular check sold very quickly until i checked next. Conversely, bays that didn't come up as best available sold very slowly. The back rows of Q10 for example have been on sale all day and have moved back just one row, despite I think them being better than alternative seats.
- Cost didn't seem to play a huge role in the tickets that sold. $65 tickets didn't seem to sell any quicker than $101 or $125 tickets.
- The back section of Q55 and Q56 were opened this afternoon, so all sections are now open. These two bays are where the majority of tickets remain, but there are still seats in the three different stands available. I wonder if this is deliberate from Ticketek so that there is variety? There were a few categories/sections that went from not available to available (eg Q35 mid).
- Typically bays did fill from front to back, but there were instances where rows further toward the front were avaialble at later times (for example Q54 and Q32). This may have been due to filling every second row, or may just be luck in people removing tickets from their basket.
- I probably won't do this tomorrow...
| Bay | Adult Cost | Back Row | 1100 | 1300 | 1600 | 1700 | 2000 | 2100 | Rows Remaining (2100) | Seats per row (EST) | Seats Remaining |
| Q10 | $101.00 | DD | BB | BB | BB | CC | CC | CC | 2 | 25 | 50 |
| Q31 | $65.00 | MM | LL | LL | na | na | na | na | 0 | 25 | 0 |
| Q32 | $65.00 | MM | GG | GG | JJ | LL | JJ | JJ | 5 | 25 | 125 |
| Q33 Back | $65.00 | MM | GG | GG | GG | HH | JJ | JJ | 5 | 25 | 125 |
| Q33 Mid | $124.00 | R | V | T | na | 0 | 25 | 0 | |||
| Q34 Back | $65.00 | MM | HH | LL | na | na | na | 0 | 25 | 0 | |
| Q35 Mid | $124.00 | S, U, V | T | na | na | Y | Y | 2 | 25 | 50 | |
| Q35 Back | $65.00 | MM | na | na | na | na | BB | BB | 17 | 25 | 425 |
| Q36 Back | $124.00 | MM | na | na | na | na | na | BB | 17 | 25 | 425 |
| Q54 | $101.00 | MM | DD | FF | GG | MM | na | LL | 2 | 25 | 50 |
| Q55 | $101.00 | MM | CC | CC | DD | CC | DD | FF | 8 | 25 | 200 |
| 1450 | |||||||||||
| BEST AVAILABLE' | Q35 T | Q33 T | Q54 MM | Q55 DD | Q54 LL | ||||||
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Maybe. If the GWS played @ SCG, then yes. As we saw with WC and Freo.
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Having not been to a prelim since 2001, I'm actually surprised how cheap the tickets are. I'm pretty sure the grand final right up the top of the old ponsford stand was nearly $100 in 2000. So a quarter of a century on and the prelims are that price now. They really could be making a lot more money off these games if they wanted to.
precarious
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I want them to stay in Homebush and think they will.
-- You get a better view of the game at Engie Stadium. Even the lesser seats give a decent view, whereas at the SCG it seems you're almost below ground level in some parts (you get a good view from the stands at both stadiums).
-- Homebush is more central to the intended support base and Olympic Park is expected to become more accessible over time with additional public transport options.
-- Personally, I find SCG games substandard viewing on TV because of the main camera angle. Seasoned viewers can adjust, but I'm not sure how well it translates to a new viewer trying to get a handle on the game.
There are signs of growth despite the stagnant attendances. I think most who have attended regularly over the last decade or more would agree that the proportion in orange has grown over time. The proportion of young supporters also bodes well for generational change.
I was hoping for 20k on the weekend. Maybe with less shenanigans from Ticketmaster it might have got closer to that than the 18.3k it got. For where we are though, I still thought it was a pass, more or less.
I tend to compare it to the semi final against West Coast in 2017, which got 14.8k. Earlier that same season we had gotten 15.7k against West Coast, which was a surprising figure (considerably bigger than any of our other home and away crowds against either West Coast or Brisbane and also bigger than our best crowds against most Melbourne clubs). It seemed to indicate there are more West Coast supporters in Sydney than might be expected.
So while there likely was more Brisbane support this semi final than West Coast support in the 2017 semi final, I'm not sure the difference was that great, meaning there likely was significantly more GWS support this time than in 2017.
The majority of levels 1, 2 and 2a were $209, level 1 behind the goals were $183, and the front 15 rows of level 4 were $143; these were all sold on Monday. There was also a bay or so around the cheer squad that was $35.
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I've updated my a table of 'seats remaining' today.
Frustratingly, the most seats you can currently buy together is 2, so the data is a bit redundant.
I've added a tally of how many public tickets I estimate to be remaining, including unsold standing and restricted view, at 4190 tickets. This is an absolute guess with a few variables. I hope standing room, Q35 and Q36 get updated soon.
Frustratingly, the most seats you can currently buy together is 2, so the data is a bit redundant.
- As far as I can tell, rows BB-->MM in bays Q35 and Q36 of the Ponsford stand are yet to go onsale. The rest of the Ponsford seems to have all been sold.
- the Shane Warne Stand had a few sporadic seats today become available in the back two rows bays Q14, Q8 and Q9. There was also some level 1 seats become available. These are now no longer on sale, and so i think that the whole stand has sold out.
- I believe the top level of the olympic stand to be sold out. Again there were instances of closer rows being available hours after back rows were offered, so they may have been selling every 2 rows and leaving a gap, however I'd hazard a guess that they've filled in all the gaps given the bays have become unavailable.
I've added a tally of how many public tickets I estimate to be remaining, including unsold standing and restricted view, at 4190 tickets. This is an absolute guess with a few variables. I hope standing room, Q35 and Q36 get updated soon.
| 17/8 | 17/8 | 17/8 | 17/8 | 17/8 | 17/8 | 17/8 | 18/8 | 18/8 | 18/8 | |||||||
| Bay | Adult Cost | 1100 | 1300 | 1600 | 1700 | 2000 | 2100 | 2300 | 830 | 1015 | 2030 | Rows Remaining | Seats per row (EST) | Seats Remaining | Back Row (reference) | |
| Shane Warne Stand | ||||||||||||||||
| Q9 | na | na | na | na | na | na | na | na | CC | na | ||||||
| Q10 | $101.00 | BB | BB | BB | CC | CC | CC | CC | CC | CC | na | 0 | 25 | 0 | DD | |
| Subtotal SWS | 0 | |||||||||||||||
| Ponsford Stand | ||||||||||||||||
| Q31 | $65.00 | LL | LL | na | na | na | na | Na | Na | na | na | 1 | 25 | 25 | MM | |
| Q32 | $65.00 | GG | GG | JJ | LL | JJ | JJ | Na | na | na | na | 1 | 25 | 25 | MM | |
| Q33 | $65.00 | GG | GG | GG | HH | JJ | JJ | KK | KK | LL | na | 1 | 25 | 25 | MM | |
| Q33 Mid | $124.00 | R | V | T | na | V | na | 0 | 25 | 0 | ||||||
| Q34 | $65.00 | HH | LL | na | na | na | Na | Na | na | na | 1 | 25 | 25 | MM | ||
| Q35 Mid | $124.00 | S, U, V | T | na | na | Y | Y | Z | Na | 0 | 25 | 0 | ||||
| Q35 | $65.00 | na | na | na | na | BB | BB | Na | Na | na | na | 17 | 25 | 425 | MM | |
| Q36 | $124.00 | na | na | na | na | na | BB | Na | Na | na | na | 17 | 25 | 425 | MM | |
| Q36 Mid | $124.00 | na | na | na | na | na | na | na | na | na | na | S | 0 | 25 | 0 | Z |
| Subtotal PS | 950 | |||||||||||||||
| Olympic Stand | ||||||||||||||||
| Q54 | $101.00 | DD | FF | GG | MM | na | LL | LL | Na | na | na | 0 | 25 | 0 | MM | |
| Q55 | $101.00 | CC | CC | DD | CC | DD | FF | CC | HH | LL | na | 0 | 15 | 0 | MM | |
| Subtotal OS | 0 | |||||||||||||||
| BEST AVAILABLE' | Q35 T | Q33 T | Q54 MM | Q55 DD | Q54 LL | Q55 HH | Q10 CC | Q36 S | ||||||||
| Subtotal empty seats | 950 | |||||||||||||||
| Random singles remaining | 240 | *Allow 10 seats for every bay that is showing single seats remaining (24) | ||||||||||||||
| Standing (unsold) | 2500 | *Yet to go on sale | ||||||||||||||
| Restricted View | 500 | Absolute guess. Yet to go on sale | ||||||||||||||
| Total Empty Seats | 4190 |
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The mind still boggles about how an algorithm that is meant to be designed to sell the most tickets possible at the best price always leaves seats unsold for big matches when demand is the heaviest. Right now just imagine how many hundreds of fans are turned off going because there is nothing but single seats available. Smh.
Still it's a positive sign... Still tracking for 90k+ which would certainly be a record for a match between two non-Melbourne teams.
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It's just currently just showing single seats for every category, so you think they'd be due to put Standing Room and Restricted View seats up for sale ASAP. If what you say is true about Q35+36 not being fully released then that's just moronic as you currently cannot buy 2 seats together anywhere in the stadium.
But very promising signs. Absolutely insane that a Geelong vs Brisbane game is likely going to exceed 90k. AFL Finals crowds are just on another level at the moment.
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Just to emphasise this point again and highlight how rare this is,
Full list of games to exceed 90,000 between a Victorian and a non-Victorian team (excluding Grand Finals):
COLL vs GWS, 97,665, 2023 Prelim Final
RICH vs GWS, 94,258, 2017 Prelim Final
CAR vs SYD, 92,026, 2023 Elimination Final
COLL vs FREO, 90,612, 2022 Semi Final
Just 4 instances of this, all in recent years involving Collingwood/Carlton/Richmond. So IF the game of Saturday can reach this mark it would be a pretty big deal.
Plenty more games in the 80k+ band but it just shows how you need to perfect storm for it to unfold.
Sure there are plenty of caveats on reaching the 90k mark, like reliance of MCC and AFL members etc. and of course luck with the fixturing for opportunities like this to come up.
It's also clearly becoming more and more common in recent years which is great to see. And I think we will see this list grow a lot in the coming years.
This all being said, I still wouldn't be surprised to see this Saturday land at a high 80s crowd, especially with some rain forecasted, but fingers crossed for 90+!
threenewpadlocks
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The incredible thing is that in all these cases there are clear reasons for such the demand. In 2017, for example Richmond had not made a prelim since 2001, which was in Brisbane, and 1995's Prelim was at Waverley. Their last game that was either a GF or a win could have gotten them to a GF under the different finals systems, and at the MCG, was in 1982. Their biggest MCG game in 25 years was clearly gonna pump up the crowd.
This is literally an identical matchup to two years ago - if anything this should suppress the crowd - is going to get 15,000-20,000 more fans than the same matchup. This crowd would have bene a great matchup had Geelong and Brisbane been devoid of similar finals recently, let alone against each other. The fact that they haven't been makes the crowd even more incredible!
threenewpadlocks
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Undoubtedly there's complexity behind the scenes in terms of how they allocate tickets and seats. For example when they relocated the Dogs vs Port AFLW game to the MCG which was already sold out for the elimination final, they were able to find several hundred tickets for the Dogs' AFLW game access members that had not already used their barcode to purchase a men's ticket simply because the major sponsors on NAB/Toyota donated/sold those tickets back to the AFL. Who knows if there's all manner of unreported similar circumstances behind the scenes that is the reason why bays randomly pop up etc.
I may be wrong and maybe those two bays did actually go on sale on Monday night, or maybe they were given over to be MCC reserve seats. It doesn’t explain why standing and restricted view haven’t gone on sale though.
Edit: you can now buy two seats together in Q36 (row V). Back rows still showing as not available.
Edit again: a few groupings of level 1 and 2 have been put up for sale this morning. I assume this is corporate ticket re-release.
The back rows of Q35 have also been released. They’re up to DD, so there’s 10 rows behind that to go. Q36 still unavailable.
Edit: you can now buy two seats together in Q36 (row V). Back rows still showing as not available.
Edit again: a few groupings of level 1 and 2 have been put up for sale this morning. I assume this is corporate ticket re-release.
The back rows of Q35 have also been released. They’re up to DD, so there’s 10 rows behind that to go. Q36 still unavailable.
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manicmagpie
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Prime seats back on sale for the MCG. I'm able to select 4 tickets on Level 2, Level 4 front and Level 4 goals at the moment.
The AFL Members looks like it probably won't sell out. There's still the back section of 2 and a bit bays available on the top deck as well as the restricted view and standing room which hasn't been put on sale.
IIRC the corresponding PF in 2022 didn't even completely sell the middle section of the top deck.
The AFL Members looks like it probably won't sell out. There's still the back section of 2 and a bit bays available on the top deck as well as the restricted view and standing room which hasn't been put on sale.
IIRC the corresponding PF in 2022 didn't even completely sell the middle section of the top deck.
They opened up, and quickly sold out, what seemed to be the remaining seats at the MCG today.
They've started selling standing room and restricted view (for $65), which is all that is left beyond some single seats.
They've started selling standing room and restricted view (for $65), which is all that is left beyond some single seats.
Well if they have started selling standing room then am I right in saying we are looking at a 98k, 99k crowd?
threenewpadlocks
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The elimination final sold out in about 3 minutes and was just short of 98.
This will be 90-92k. A great increase from 2022 which was just short of 78k.
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It still all depends on MCC.
The dogs/Hawks was completely sold out of everything including standing room 2 weeks ago. This time there's still patches of seats left.
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I can’t see the MCC completely selling out their unreserved seats and standing room tomorrow. I reckon a crowd around the 88-89k, which is still an amazing effort for a match between Geelong and Brisbane!
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The difference between say a 43,500 crowd or a 46,500 crowd at the SCG is pretty minuscule and at the end of the day all comes down to luck and hoping that everyone with a ticket is able to make it on the day (and SCG member walkups?).
The largest AFL crowd at the SCG was 46,323 (EF vs Essendon, 2017)
The prelim vs Collingwood in 2022 was 45,608
The largest crowd thus far this year was 44,714 (vs Geelong).
So ultimately it just kinda comes down to luck, as this game sold out very quickly, but it would be great to see a new record exceeding that 2017 crowd if possible. Would make for a good headline.
I think Port is likely to be bringing less travelling support than Collingwood in 2022 for example, and I think this increases the likelihood of a record crowd. The more Sydney-based fans attending reduces the chances of flight cancellations or other transport difficulties preventing ticket-holders from making the game.
The largest AFL crowd at the SCG was 46,323 (EF vs Essendon, 2017)
The prelim vs Collingwood in 2022 was 45,608
The largest crowd thus far this year was 44,714 (vs Geelong).
So ultimately it just kinda comes down to luck, as this game sold out very quickly, but it would be great to see a new record exceeding that 2017 crowd if possible. Would make for a good headline.
I think Port is likely to be bringing less travelling support than Collingwood in 2022 for example, and I think this increases the likelihood of a record crowd. The more Sydney-based fans attending reduces the chances of flight cancellations or other transport difficulties preventing ticket-holders from making the game.
threenewpadlocks
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Isn't there an opposite argument though? That a person who makes the effort to get themselves to a different city as a ticket holder is more likely to actually show up to the game, as opposed to a local resident that might have a ticket but then have something last-minute that prevents them from going, which is more likely in their existing city of residence/employment (or poor weather not stopping those who have made the effort for a new city but those that live there can't be bothered even if they've paid for it or whatever).
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